Spear and Javelin Mod [WIP]

[Soolie]

I was just wondering If I could grab your opinion on something guys :smile:

 

Since I can't replace the normal attacks with spear animations (Only power attacks) I'm going to leave it so that a normal attack will use the sword swinging animations. And power attacks will use thrusting animations. However, I've also greatly reduced the extra damage and stamina cost of spear power attacks and also the chance of an enemy using a power attack has been increased dramatically (Almost to 100%)

 

What do you all think about this? Do you think the lack of normal spear attacks will make combat boring? Should I try and remove the ability to do normal (swinging) attacks with spears, leaving only the thrusting power attacks? Do you think being able to swing your spear will actually be a good (although accidental) feature?

Edited May 2, 2014 by Soolie

[Deleted4169574User]

Normal attacks with spears would work fine. I would actually love it if I could swing, then stab with a spear in combat.

[heyiforgot]

If I understand it correctly it sounds like it should work fine. If I understand it right the NPCs with spears will almost always stab and it will be treated as thought the power attack were a normal attack, then there would be a small chance that they would swing attack too, right? Then the player could attack how ever they wanted with the spear. Am I right in thinking that someone could create a branch off of the weapons perk trees for spears? Similar to what I read about in Skyre, I think it was, except actually attached to Spears? Will you able to replace Each direction of power attack if you wanted to? What about the Idle animations? It would have to be the same as what ever was being used for the swords right? Were you planning on doing 1st person animations? Sorry for the wall of text, just stoked for the mod!

Edited May 3, 2014 by heyiforgot

[GandhisLunchbox]

There's already a mod with javelins and stuff called something like throwing weapons redux on steam but this looks a lot better

[Soolie]

If I understand it correctly it sounds like it should work fine. If I understand it right the NPCs with spears will almost always stab and it will be treated as thought the power attack were a normal attack, then there would be a small chance that they would swing attack too, right? Then the player could attack how ever they wanted with the spear. Am I right in thinking that someone could create a branch off of the weapons perk trees for spears? Similar to what I read about in Skyre, I think it was, except actually attached to Spears? Will you able to replace Each direction of power attack if you wanted to? What about the Idle animations? It would have to be the same as what ever was being used for the swords right? Were you planning on doing 1st person animations? Sorry for the wall of text, just stoked for the mod!

Correct :)

Regarding perks, I would love to have new perks for the spears but I haven't looked into it. I'm not even sure if you can add new perks to the skill trees, but I'll have a look :) Also I should be able to replace ALL the animations :) It's just the regular attack animations I can't replace. I would like to have new 1st person animations too. However I'm not even sure if anyone has made a 1st person animation before so I'm not sure on that one (For now I just use that immersive 1st person mod)

[musegravemind]

 

If I understand it correctly it sounds like it should work fine. If I understand it right the NPCs with spears will almost always stab and it will be treated as thought the power attack were a normal attack, then there would be a small chance that they would swing attack too, right? Then the player could attack how ever they wanted with the spear. Am I right in thinking that someone could create a branch off of the weapons perk trees for spears? Similar to what I read about in Skyre, I think it was, except actually attached to Spears? Will you able to replace Each direction of power attack if you wanted to? What about the Idle animations? It would have to be the same as what ever was being used for the swords right? Were you planning on doing 1st person animations? Sorry for the wall of text, just stoked for the mod!

Correct :smile:

Regarding perks, I would love to have new perks for the spears but I haven't looked into it. I'm not even sure if you can add new perks to the skill trees, but I'll have a look :smile: Also I should be able to replace ALL the animations :smile: It's just the regular attack animations I can't replace. I would like to have new 1st person animations too. However I'm not even sure if anyone has made a 1st person animation before so I'm not sure on that one (For now I just use that immersive 1st person mod)

 

 

there are plenty of 1st person animation replacers. people just don't use them often because they play in third person (aesthetics, cosmetics, etc). though weapons with third person animations replacements should have a 1st person replacements as well.

[MJAB98]

Hey Soolie, im making a new weapon set, would it be ok if I was able to use your mod when it is finished to add a spear to the set

[Soolie]

Hey Soolie, im making a new weapon set, would it be ok if I was able to use your mod when it is finished to add a spear to the set

 

Sure :) In fact it should be as simple as adding a single keyword to your weapons

[heyiforgot]

Awesome, am I right in thinking that a person should be able to make different weapons have different chances for NPCS to swing them normally or power attack? for example perhaps something like a glaive from heavy armory would be more likely to swing attack than a normal spear?

[Soolie]

Awesome, am I right in thinking that a person should be able to make different weapons have different chances for NPCS to swing them normally or power attack? for example perhaps something like a glaive from heavy armory would be more likely to swing attack than a normal spear?

Unfortunately not. Although I could make npc's using 2handed spears swing more than with a 1h spear. The ratio between swinging attacks and stabbing attacks is constant for each weapon type