Posting texture mods using multiple textures by other authors

[Incrazone]

Before anyone asks, yes, I have read the ToS, I just don't really understand it. If I want to upload a Skyrim armor retexture, for a mod, using another mods textures as a base to create my own mod on (not completely changing the look, but things like recoloring the armor and adding new details or renaming a mods books, spell tomes, or arrows,) I have to get permission from each author to use their mod and textures to create my mod? And, what if the author whose mod that I want to create my mod for shows no signs of being active any longer?

[IsharaMeradin]

1. Short answer, yes, you need to get their permission.

 

Long answer, if you need to modify or include any part of their work in your mod then you need their permission.

If what you want to do is a simple edit in the Creation Kit (like renaming a book), then you can use their mod as a parent master and make the edit in a dependent plugin. Then because you are not modifying their actual work and require their actual work, you do not necessarily need permission but it is still nice to seek it out.

 

2. Unless it is stated somewhere by the author that their work is free to use, you cannot use it directly without permission. Even if the author has been inactive for a very long time.

[Incrazone]

1. Short answer, yes, you need to get their permission.

 

Long answer, if you need to modify or include any part of their work in your mod then you need their permission.

If what you want to do is a simple edit in the Creation Kit (like renaming a book), then you can use their mod as a parent master and make the edit in a dependent plugin. Then because you are not modifying their actual work and require their actual work, you do not necessarily need permission but it is still nice to seek it out.

 

2. Unless it is stated somewhere by the author that their work is free to use, you cannot use it directly without permission. Even if the author has been inactive for a very long time.

Okay, thank you. But what if it's just a retexture for a mod? Like, retexturing an Immersive Armors armor, will I need to get permission from the creator of Immersive Armors? Or only the creator of the textures I'm using to make my own texture for Immersive Armors?

[ghosu]

If you just upload the retexture without any original content of another person's mod (like textures,models or .esp) AND (!) the texture is made 100% from scratch (so there is no part of the original texture included) you don't need permission - at least i'm pretty sure, because the retexture is based on the mod but doesn't use any content of it.

 

Ofc. you could always discuss if this is 100% correct because you're still using the original UV layout of the mesh and if you discuss all facets of copyright - but i guess that's just nitpicking, especially since we're talking 'bout non commercial releases, we're no huge concerns with armies of lawyers.

 

I'm not sure if there is an exact rule/wording regarding such topics, but tbh., even in this case i would ask the mod author for permission - because without this mod there would be no retexture or need to download your mod. Besides "law" and rules there is something like morality/code as well.

 

To be 100% sure you have to ask the site owner/mod because in the end they are responsible for the exact terms of this site - they decide what to host and what not.

Edited March 17, 2014 by ghosu

[Thandal]

Our Terms of Service are quite clear on this topic:

• Absolutely no copyrighted work is to be used without permission of the original creator. This includes content from other games, from DLCs, music creators or from other file authors. This also includes members from countries that do not recognise copyright laws.
  
• All files uploaded must have been created by the uploader or used with permission from the original author of the content. Such permission must be indicated in the Readme text attached to the file and/or on the Description page (or in the Description field for images), and must be obtained in advance, before uploading the file. If you cannot provide proof of consent then your file will be removed and your account is likely to be banned.

 

And then there's the declaration you must make every time you upload anything:

I testify that all the content in the files I am going to upload are my own or are used with the express permission of the original creators of the files I have used and I have properly credited the original creators in my ReadMe, and in the mod description or in the "Credits" text area of the "Distribution permission" section of this page. I understand and accept that I will be banned from this site if I am found to be lying about this.

 

Note that in both places the stated consequences of knowingly using someone else's material without obtaining permission include being banned from the Nexus.

 

Bottom Line: Do your own work, or get permission.

[xXDeliteXx]

I've always had this question relating to such. What if this was the case? But the mods wasn't being given out publically, but privately.

[DrakeTheDragon]

I've always had this question relating to such. What if this was the case? But the mods wasn't being given out publically, but privately.

Not sure I get you right, might want to elaborate a little what you mean by this,

but if you mean using someone else's copyright protected property (as in the assets an author created) without permission within a mod of your's which you won't be uploading to the Nexus but only sharing privately,

 

it of course is still wrong, and the author 'could' (as unlikely as this is) come after you for copyright infringement legally when found out, but as long as the Nexus doesn't know of you doing this, you're not posting links here or talking about it, and the files aren't hosted here either (there's no 'private' sharing allowed via Nexus file servers, they're for public use only), if the Nexus isn't involved in it in any way, it's not exactly the Nexus' business either.

 

I cannot guarantee what might happen though, if the staff does find out. Stealing from Nexus and uploading to other sites did result in bans already multiple times in the past. There's no place for mod/asset/content thieves here.

 

 

And if you mean the mods the assets you're using from were given out privately and aren't available publically, then it is even more paramount to gain permission from their creators, as they usually do have their reason for not sharing their work publically, and you sharing, even if only part of it, in your own mods publically now might very well be an issue with them. Plus copyright doesn't come with public sharing, copyright inherently comes with assets' creation.

 

Furthermore, if you even already received the assets from a thief sharing them privately instead, they still remain stolen property, and continuing to further spread them within your own mods will make you an accomplice of the original thief and liable for the same crime and with the same punishment. And how do they say in court trials? "Ignorance is not an excuse."

[xXDeliteXx]

 

I've always had this question relating to such. What if this was the case? But the mods wasn't being given out publically, but privately.

Not sure I get you right, might want to elaborate a little what you mean by this,

but if you mean using someone else's copyright protected property (as in the assets an author created) without permission within a mod of your's which you won't be uploading to the Nexus but only sharing privately,

 

it of course is still wrong, and the author 'could' (as unlikely as this is) come after you for copyright infringement legally when found out, but as long as the Nexus doesn't know of you doing this, you're not posting links here or talking about it, and the files aren't hosted here either (there's no 'private' sharing allowed via Nexus file servers, they're for public use only), if the Nexus isn't involved in it in any way, it's not exactly the Nexus' business either.

 

I cannot guarantee what might happen though, if the staff does find out. Stealing from Nexus and uploading to other sites did result in bans already multiple times in the past. There's no place for mod/asset/content thieves here.

 

 

And if you mean the mods the assets you're using from were given out privately and aren't available publically, then it is even more paramount to gain permission from their creators, as they usually do have their reason for not sharing their work publically, and you sharing, even if only part of it, in your own mods publically now might very well be an issue with them. Plus copyright doesn't come with public sharing, copyright inherently comes with assets' creation.

 

Furthermore, if you even already received the assets from a thief sharing them privately instead, they still remain stolen property, and continuing to further spread them within your own mods will make you an accomplice of the original thief and liable for the same crime and with the same punishment. And how do they say in court trials? "Ignorance is not an excuse."

 

So basically, sharing edits between friends is okay. But I can't tell people publicly to email me privately for an edit?

Makes sense to me now lol, thanks for your wording.

[JimboUK]

 

 

I've always had this question relating to such. What if this was the case? But the mods wasn't being given out publically, but privately.

Not sure I get you right, might want to elaborate a little what you mean by this,

but if you mean using someone else's copyright protected property (as in the assets an author created) without permission within a mod of your's which you won't be uploading to the Nexus but only sharing privately,

 

it of course is still wrong, and the author 'could' (as unlikely as this is) come after you for copyright infringement legally when found out, but as long as the Nexus doesn't know of you doing this, you're not posting links here or talking about it, and the files aren't hosted here either (there's no 'private' sharing allowed via Nexus file servers, they're for public use only), if the Nexus isn't involved in it in any way, it's not exactly the Nexus' business either.

 

I cannot guarantee what might happen though, if the staff does find out. Stealing from Nexus and uploading to other sites did result in bans already multiple times in the past. There's no place for mod/asset/content thieves here.

 

 

And if you mean the mods the assets you're using from were given out privately and aren't available publically, then it is even more paramount to gain permission from their creators, as they usually do have their reason for not sharing their work publically, and you sharing, even if only part of it, in your own mods publically now might very well be an issue with them. Plus copyright doesn't come with public sharing, copyright inherently comes with assets' creation.

 

Furthermore, if you even already received the assets from a thief sharing them privately instead, they still remain stolen property, and continuing to further spread them within your own mods will make you an accomplice of the original thief and liable for the same crime and with the same punishment. And how do they say in court trials? "Ignorance is not an excuse."

 

So basically, sharing edits between friends is okay. But I can't tell people publicly to email me privately for an edit?

Makes sense to me now lol, thanks for your wording.

 

 

What people do privately is nothing to do with the site as long as this site isn't involved in any way, that includes the PM system.

[Incrazone]

Our Terms of Service are quite clear on this topic:

• Absolutely no copyrighted work is to be used without permission of the original creator. This includes content from other games, from DLCs, music creators or from other file authors. This also includes members from countries that do not recognise copyright laws.

• All files uploaded must have been created by the uploader or used with permission from the original author of the content. Such permission must be indicated in the Readme text attached to the file and/or on the Description page (or in the Description field for images), and must be obtained in advance, before uploading the file. If you cannot provide proof of consent then your file will be removed and your account is likely to be banned.

 

And then there's the declaration you must make every time you upload anything:

I testify that all the content in the files I am going to upload are my own or are used with the express permission of the original creators of the files I have used and I have properly credited the original creators in my ReadMe, and in the mod description or in the "Credits" text area of the "Distribution permission" section of this page. I understand and accept that I will be banned from this site if I am found to be lying about this.

 

Note that in both places the stated consequences of knowingly using someone else's material without obtaining permission include being banned from the Nexus.

 

Bottom Line: Do your own work, or get permission.

I'm sorry, I still don't quite understand. I'm looking at retexturing "Various guard outfits for Every cityTS Edition" whose author shows no signs of being active any longer. Do I need to get permission from the creator of that mod to retexture his mod, although he used vanilla Skyrim textures to create his own textures?