Ethreon Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hello I've had Fallout for the past 1 year. Almost from the start I modded it since there we're plenty of things I didn't like, enjoy or we're simply bugged. Now, as every other person playing this game, I've come across plenty of bugs and issues despite installing mods correctly, or having latest patches (official or not). Right now, I'm in a bit of trouble and have some (perhaps) dumb questions. Hopefully, those that know more than I do (which is not a lot) will be able to help me: 1. when creating a merged patch, you are supposed to add the unofficial files as well, right?2. I use Blackened; tried FOIP, didn't work, CTD all the way. I did this since I added Blackened first time, and think I recall seeing somewhere that, when creating a merged patch, I must uncheck Blackened. Right?3. Untill recently I had MTC Wasteland Travellers installed with no issues whatsoever. Well, except being muggled by some filthy wastelander and then having to blow him and his mates up because my stealing skills we're lousy. However, right now I am experiencing a lot of CTD. If I uncheck this mod in NMM, crashes seem to not happen anymore. Been reading the forum post for MTC, but not much help came from there. Any ideas what can I do to have this working?4. A bit of advice on load order. Yes, I have used both the updated BOSS and readmes found all over the place. Still, an expert opinion won't harm anyone. My load order is:Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1StreetLights.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1EVE.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp=1DarNifiedUIF3.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp=1MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp=0MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=0Echo_UseBothGloves.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=0Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=0Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=0Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1Fellout-Full.esp=1Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1Fellout-Zeta.esp=1Merged PATCH.esp=1Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE.esp=1 Is anything that I should change/add to make it more stable? Yes, I do use the old Unofficial patch, I find it more stable.5. Recently did a clean reinstall, with new saves and all that. Used an optimizer, Ordenator for "SKYRIM, FALLOUT 3 & NV, STALKER, OBLIVION, MORROWIND and others". Once ingame, found some issues - sounds not loading, or dissapearing once reloading a save (died, I'm a scrub). Walking sounds, sounds of opening containers and chests, shooting etc. - a floating car. Simply an old, derelict car floating in mid air, somewhere near the Super Duper Mart.Could the optimizer be guilty, or is it something else?6. Probably last, and most annoying, are the CTD's. A lot of them. Running (sprinting) sometimes causes CTD. Moving around, or quickly turning around, CTD. Encounters with some travellers or creatures, shooting, CTD. Can't really pinpoint them all to MTC, since some occur without that mod installed. Some ideas? Thank you in advance to anyone that will bother wasting time reading this novel, and even more, answer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 what is 'MTC?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 what is 'MTC?"He shortened the title "MTC Wasteland Travelers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) ok so I nee to track that down, I don't have the mod to test results here. got a link?My search brought up many versions so, I am at a loss as to which mod is the right one? Edited March 24, 2014 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRampage Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 1. when creating a merged patch, you are supposed to add the unofficial files as well, right? Sure. 2. I use Blackened; tried FOIP, didn't work, CTD all the way. I did this since I added Blackened first time, and think I recall seeing somewhere that, when creating a merged patch, I must uncheck Blackened. Right? Correct. Might consider simply not making a merged patch at all for that load order though. Don't see much point to it. Your Blackened patch already patches FWE, MMM and EVE, so there's only about 3 mods which might have some conflicts. One might speculate if a merged patch would do more harm then good in your particular setup. Are you using the latest (2,0) version of Blackened by the way? 3. Untill recently I had MTC Wasteland Travellers installed with no issues whatsoever. Well, except being muggled by some filthy wastelander and then having to blow him and his mates up because my stealing skills we're lousy. However, right now I am experiencing a lot of CTD. If I uncheck this mod in NMM, crashes seem to not happen anymore. Been reading the forum post for MTC, but not much help came from there. Any ideas what can I do to have this working? Not familiar with it, but you could try putting it's plugins all the way at the bottom of your load order and see if it changes anything. Yes, I do use the old Unofficial patch, I find it more stable. More stable in what way, I wonder? Seems rather subjective imho.Regardless, if you're planning on continuing to use the "old" unofficial patch, then make sure you've made the following edits to the Broken Steel plugin: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showtopic=401813 Also, delete any inactive plugins in your load order if you're not planning on using them at all. *cough* some of the stuff in the optional FWE and MMM plugins are overridden by Blackened anyway *cough* What are your system's specs? You sure your system can handle (modded) Fallout 3 well enough? A lot of the issues you're reporting seem related to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethreon Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Seems that for the moment I don't have anymore issues. Redownloaded the MTC files, reinstalled, and all works fine now. MTC stands for MTC Wasteland Travellers hereEvery mod/plugin I use is up to date @BlackRampage:I will do that, thank you.The inactive plugins I will have to delete manually, I guess. Deleting the esm/esp from the Data folder is enough?As for the patch, I had less issues with the old one. The fix you directed me to is not a must usually, but I do know about it and use if needed. Finally, system specs (which I forgot to mention tho I said I'd do it) Intel i7-3537U @2.0 Ghz4 Gb RAMNvidia GeForce 720MWindows 7 64-bitDon't really know the rest of the components. I don't have issues playing the game, like stutter or similar, not even in smoke clouds or with a lot of light sources. Anyway, for the moment it seems to be stable. Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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