Specific CTD issue, Papyrus Log

JGDrummer · April 2, 2014

Hello all.

Please forgive me if this has already been answered before (which I'm sure it has somewhere out there), but it can get overwhelming searching through pages and pages of forums for an answer. I have tried to no avail yet.

I'm not terribly technical or good at troubleshooting. I'm at work now and don't have access to all my system specs but can noted those later if they are needed. For the most part, I'd just like to find out what one specific error line in the papyrus log refers to and what it means. I typically get tons of CTDs when playing my modded Skyrim, but have learned to live with it and consider it mostly just an inconvenience having to restart the game all the time. That said, when I do check the papyrus log after a particularly annoying CTD, about 90% of the time, the last line reads something like this (paraphrasing, sorry):

error: unable to calculate distance from item to nonestack

That line shows up in the log about 10+ times at the very bottom and from my limited knowledge, would seem to be causing the CTD.

Anyone know what that particular issue is from?

Many thanks!

IsharaMeradin · April 2, 2014

1. The Papyrus log is not a crash log. It may indicate what was running prior to the crash but does not mean that that is what caused the crash.

2. If you want to know what a specific runtime error means then you need to post the actual error/warning message (no paraphrasing). Otherwise, check the wiki for yourself. http://www.creationkit.com/Papyrus_Runtime_Errors

3. If you want help figuring out a repeatable CTD, then you need to post a list of installed mods, actual load order of active plugins and your system specs.

MotoSxorpio · April 2, 2014

On 4/2/2014 at 5:58 PM, IsharaMeradin said:
1. The Papyrus log is not a crash log. It may indicate what was running prior to the crash but does not mean that that is what caused the crash.

2. If you want to know what a specific runtime error means then you need to post the actual error/warning message (no paraphrasing). Otherwise, check the wiki for yourself. http://www.creationkit.com/Papyrus_Runtime_Errors

3. If you want help figuring out a repeatable CTD, then you need to post a list of installed mods, actual load order of active plugins and your system specs.

And symptoms in detail; where and when a CTD happens; if the CTD can be replicated.

JGDrummer · April 2, 2014

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll detail as much as I can when I get on my home computer.

I was under the impression that the papyrus log was the best way to find out what's causing CTDs... again, I'm pretty noob at all this. I don't know that I could replicate the CTD because they are usually at random times, places, events, etc. One commonality though is say I fast travel to an area and a random dragon encounter happens to be at that same area... I'll get a CTD every time I try to fast travel to that maker at that time. But, if I fast travel to another marker in a different area, I'm fine. Or if I'm walking up a road and a group of NPCs or monsters is further ahead, I might crash every time I get near them at that specific area and time. Most of the time I'm fine though, so it's totally random.

Georgiegril · April 2, 2014

It sounds like you may be running too many script heavy mods, or that you are having conflicting mods.

Do you use BOSS to set up your load order? Have you read the log that BOSS generates and taken care of all of the messages (TES Edit cleaning, proper placement of mods BOSS doesn't recognize, etc.)

If not, that would be the first step.

If so, please copy/paste the text file of your BOSS log and enclose in spoiler tags.

It is also possible that you are looking at exceeding your computer's memory resources. Have you tried using a program like Skyrim Performance Monitor to track your systems in-game performance? If not, that might also be worth doing.

JGDrummer · April 2, 2014

Here are my computer specs:

AMD A10-5800K APU Quad Core with Radeon™ HD Graphics 4.2 Ghz Max Turbo, 3.8 GHz Base

8GB RAM

Windows 8.1 64-bit

EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 640

4GB VRAM

I do use NMM and BOSS, and clean all the dirty edits in TES5edit that BOSS notes. I do not, however, use WyreBash as I'm not familiar with it and therefore haven't touched any of the bashtag callouts from BOSS.

NMM Load Order:

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BOSS Log:

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These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

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Unrecognized BOSS Log:

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One of the last Papyrus Logs:

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[04/01/2014 - 06:28:07PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:07PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:07PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:25PM] Cannot open store for class "isilStingGlow", missing file?

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:25PM] Cannot open store for class "_arissa_inpc_behavior", missing file?

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:25PM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file?

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:26PM] Cannot open store for class "KitiaraFollowerScript", missing file?

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:26PM] Cannot open store for class "xflscript", missing file?

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (050009AC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (050009AF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C575) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker01 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B129F) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker04 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B63C8) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker03 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A3) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker02 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A0) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker05 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B89F2) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0501519A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D68) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (050009B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property DSPSpend on script DSPMageScript attached to (130099C1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D6A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0501749A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016B3F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:33PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C595) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C590) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D66) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property DLC1VQ05RNPCSourCairnEntrance on script DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ05RNPC_010176C2 attached to DLC1VQ05RNPC (030176C2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500B570) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016AF6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D57) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker01 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B12A6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B129F) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker04 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B12A6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B63C8) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker03 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B12A6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A3) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker02 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B12A6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A0) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker05 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B12A6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B89F2) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016AF2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property hunter on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (4F000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property HuntQuest on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (4F000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property HuntingLocation on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (4F000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property ItemColFaction on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (4F000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016B03) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016B05) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011DA3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016B01) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker01 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B0CF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B129F) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker04 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B0CF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B63C8) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker03 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B0CF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A3) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker02 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B0CF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A0) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker05 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290B0CF3) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B89F2) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D5B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500E291) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C578) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C57C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] VM is freezing...

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] VM is frozen

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Reverting game...

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (050009AC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (050009AF) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C575) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property Alias_MarriageCustomHome on script QF_RelationshipMarriageFIN_00021382 attached to RelationshipMarriageFIN (00021382) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker01 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B129F) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker04 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B63C8) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker03 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A3) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker02 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B12A0) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] Error: Property AnimalMarker05 on script HISAnimalHuntDirScript attached to (290ADC70) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (290B89F2) is not the right type

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D68) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (050009B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property DSPSpend on script DSPMageScript attached to (130099C1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05011D6A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0501749A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (05016B3F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[04/01/2014 - 06:28:34PM] warning: Property bResetOnLoad on script MannequinActivatorSCRIPT attached to (0500C595) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property