Will social progressivim become the new domestic terorism

[Purr4me]

I did a slight test in an attempt to find some common ground, what I found would blow your mind.

this was the Entire Google search line. "(changed by the majority of people here who doesn't see fairness as an exclusive right of one party or the other.)

I did not even need to click any links, just started to read what popped up. Thing will never change. Man has free will.

[kvnchrist]

I did a slight test in an attempt to find some common ground, what I found would blow your mind.

this was the Entire Google search line. "(changed by the majority of people here who doesn't see fairness as an exclusive right of one party or the other.)

I did not even need to click any links, just started to read what popped up. Thing will never change. Man has free will.

I don't follow you. :confused:

[JimboUK]

From where I am sitting, it appears that the minority groups are asserting themselves far more of late, than they have in the past. Various issues are now more openly brought up for discussion. The only trouble is, if your opinion isn't in line with what these minority groups think they should be, you are a hater, a bigot, "stuck in the past", etc. They tend to respond to anyone with a different opinion than theirs with bile and anger. Personally, I find it abhorrent. Now, it has become a contest of who has more 'rights'. Seems that if your religion dictates that you shouldn't support some activity that whatever minority group thinks you should, it immediately becomes 'discrimination', and the lawsuits start flying. What's even worse is, our government sides with the minority, against the religious.

 

Personally, I think a serious economic collapse, or major world war, would be doing us a FAVOR. Things would change dramatically, it would be important issues that were being talked about, not the fluff we see today.

 

It's not gone unnoticed that those groups (or those who claim to represent them) that demand tolerance from others are the least tolerant of all, anyone who doesn't subscribe to their way of thinking is guilty of some kind of "ism" and vilified. I don't know about the U.S but here in the U.K the left have traded their beliefs for a strict adherence to political correctness, now they act like the Borg and detest anyone who isn't part of their hivemind.

[HeyYou]

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.........

 

Yeah, I hear ya on that one. You either agree with them completely, or, they have a string of somewhat less than complimentary adjectives for you.

[kvnchrist]

You know what gets me is that the struggle for equal rights has been going on for generations. I met a Lesbian back in the "70"s that really turned my life around and from then to this day I've been an active supporter of gay rights. This is way before it became cool and stylish to back social issues. I have taken every sort of verbal abuse by those that thought homosexuality the most depraved activity known to man. I've been told so many times that I was headed for Hell that I printed a tee shirt stating the fact, even thogh I don't believe in that.

 

I don't know when it occured but social issues and liberalism has been hijacked and turned into something that it was never meant to be. Liberalisdm used to stand for something. It used to counter tyranny and authoritarianism and now it uses these more viciously than they have ever been used before.

 

Not even criminals are treated as poorly as those who haphazardly step into the cross-hairs of these people. At least a criminal gets their day in court. Some who are the targets of these people have no warning and no recourse since their voices are drowned out those so sure of themselves that they refuse even to evaluate their own actions.

 

The real issue here is that these people seem oblivious to the fact that there is an older generation of both liberal and conservatives, which are backed by an even larger group on fence setters that really don't give a crap either way. What the do give a crap about is what effects them and the denile of freedom of speech is a big thing there. The older liberals fell just as strongly as these new kids on the block but they also have a huge sence of fairness and know that what is happening today is totally unfair, They've been through more life experiences and know the danger in mob rule. They know that what happens to conservatives today can happen to them tomarrow.

 

This is more akin to my understanding of Fascism than anything else and has no place in American society. That is as long as it remains American.

 

What do you think?

[HeyYou]

Guess some folks are just more equal than others. When exercising MY rights (which have been defined for generations) is overruled by someone else screaming dsicrimination, there is something basically wrong there. Trouble is, there isn't a fix for it. Someone is going to lose. What troubles me about that is, the MINORITY wins that one. I think we have become far too politically correct.

[kvnchrist]

I think this will get more and more juvenile and pathetic. The left will tke up this guy by threatening boycott and then the right will boycott Firefox and inundate this dating site. Then the left will come back with a boycott of something to get back at the right and the right ewill retaliate in kind.

[Ihoe]

As a human being (that is defining myself as someone in a faceless form) I have always wondered what is the point of being "right" in liberal, secular ideology. other than being simply a means of furthering a political agenda using ideals that would make large groups of people support it, because they will lead to feeling better, feeling empowered and other stimulants. and will also lead the leaders into leading a life of ease and political power, or simply summed up, make history in your name using the hope and bodies of others.

 

Buddy, The whole point of living for the average human being is one word: "Power". it is the the never-mentioned God of all men. Rights, Lefts, Middles, Lowers, Supremacists, The Religious Pretender, Everyone with the ambition to want it, tries to get to it. If you look at it from my POV, activism never got anything done "completely" but always left people with the hope of a better world, and while everyone loves hope, some love it and (ab)use it for power.

 

IMO, What most advocates fail to realize is that "Your Right Ideals" may be called "antiquated" (what a silly word, no offense OP, I strongly agree with you) in the future, since they are pretty much relative. Ideals are like Tires, they are used and believed until they are useless and exchanged by another one, which ultimately, does the same thing that is running the foundation of Human civilization.

 

Seriously, what the hell is the point of advocating militant activism and visceral hatred towards those with different Vistas, in order to make the world a better place (isn't that the whole point of activism)? that right there is a paradox. It's hypocritical.

 

 

Guess some folks are just more equal than others. When exercising MY rights (which have been defined for generations) is overruled by someone else screaming dsicrimination, there is something basically wrong there. Trouble is, there isn't a fix for it. Someone is going to lose. What troubles me about that is, the MINORITY wins that one. I think we have become far too politically correct.

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

George Orwell. This quote is simply awesome.

 

I concur and have to add here a little, the Minority did win, but not without the support of some majority.

 

People (majority) think about right and wrong - again I have to rant, what the hell is the meaning of right and wrong when there is no religion or law involved? PS common sense is basically a sum of the two. so don't give me that c... - and some like to express their hatred and psychological complexes in ways that will make them feel good because they did the right thing and not a wrong thing, and the definition of right or wrong has been subliminally shoved down peoples throats by the media. and the media is a political tool.

 

 

PS, with this post I have risked being called a bigot, chauvinist, homophobe (That's not even an effing word, same-fearer what the hell), rightist, leftist, atheist, man-hater, hopeless, f@&#!t and a plethora of other colors of Benetton. but guess what, every word you type is bound to get somebody offended, right?

[kvnchrist]

As a human being (that is defining myself as someone in a faceless form) I have always wondered what is the point of being "right" in liberal, secular ideology. other than being simply a means of furthering a political agenda using ideals that would make large groups of people support it, because they will lead to feeling better, feeling empowered and other stimulants. and will also lead the leaders into leading a life of ease and political power, or simply summed up, make history in your name using the hope and bodies of others.

 

This issue is not about being a liberal or secular, since none of these who orchestrated this action are any of these. This is the handywork of the self absorbed, the self righteous and those so addicted to instant gratification and the sensationalism of thoughtless popularity, backed up be a severe lack life experience. These people are acting out of revenge for a presumed slight, which was never anywhere beyond the confines of their own heads.

 

This is not empowerment of any kind. This is doing something just to do something and that leads no one anywhere. They have not ended anything, but began something that will spiral down into abject lunacy. Each side will effect hundreds in their attempt to silence the other and will most likely end in each others irrelevancy in the political world. Every body else will simply walk on past them and go on with their lives.

 

Buddy, The whole point of living for the average human being is one word: "Power". it is the the never-mentioned God of all men. Rights, Lefts, Middles, Lowers, Supremacists, The Religious Pretender, Everyone with the ambition to want it, tries to get to it. If you look at it from my POV, activism never got anything done "completely" but always left people with the hope of a better world, and while everyone loves hope, some love it and (ab)use it for power.

 

 

I think you are wrong here. The whole point in living is not attaining power but finding yourself, what works out for you and finding someone to share it with. This is not power but self direction. as for ambition, that is good in moderation, as long as your ambition is just not to deny the ambitions of others. This in itself, I think is the truest definition of tyranny.

 

We carve out as much of an existence within this world and do our best to interact with those around us as to provide a buffer zone in which we can live in relative comfort without constantly being on the defense. Activism is a constant state of desiring relevancy in the world, many times without the the benefits of a lasting satisfaction. It is not a life but a state of being that offers nothing in the long term. Those agendas that are successful are quickly disgaurded as new agendas take their place and the entire process is repeated. It is substance abuse without a substance.

[HeyYou]

Everyones motivations are different. Some seek power, some just seek to get along in life, and many variations on both themes. Its the power mongers that are trouble. Unfortunately, they tend to be the loudest, most outspoken, and most visible representatives of their proffessed veiwpoint. They also tend to be the most annoying.....