warriormantis Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmWyrmstooth.espETaC - RESOURCES.esmFantasy Soundtrack Project.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmWinterholdDestruction.esmSPERG.esmdaymoyl.esmTKChildren.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espCutting Room Floor.espHARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.espERSO 23 - Lockpicking Perks Changes.esp3DNPC.espETaC - Complete.espSkyUI.espTradeBarter.espFootprints.espPhysicsImpactDamageFix.espERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.espPumpingIron.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espBrawl Bugs CE.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espBrows.espBeards.espCatlike Khajiit.espShowRaceMenuAlternative.espAnimations.espChesko_WearableLantern.espNB-Scars.espDraugr_Horror_Sound.espMoreBrains.espTKChildren_HF.espLore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.espDr_BandolierDG.espDSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.espDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.espDVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.espDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.espchildskeletonfix.espERSO 25 - Enchanting Perks Changes.espConvenient Horses.espBFSEffects.espAHZmoreHUD.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espCharGen Morphs.espHeadtracking.espHeartBreaker.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espImportantInformationOverhaul.espEEO Morphs.espiHUD.espImmersive NPC in the dark.espAMatterOfTime.espImproved Eyes Skyrim.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Pure Weather.espProject Ultimatum.espOmegared99-GalleryOfArmor.espOrder My Items.espImmersiveFP.espUpdate_Horror_Draugr.espRealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.espmoveitLWT.espSleepTight.espvwr Wet Eyes.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espSleepingDangers-SandsofTime.espPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.espExpandedWinterholdRuins.espSRTOParallax.espSupernatural AI - Ideal Diffuclty Settings.espTimingIsEverything.espRun For Your Lives.espTimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.espTKChildren+3DNPC.espvAutosaveManager.espWarmongerArmory_Vanilla.espWarmongerArmory_DLC.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espAOS.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espWetandCold.espAOS_EBT Patch.espAOS_WetandCold Patch.espADS.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espTradeRoutes.espFootstepsSoundsOverhaul.espImmersive Sounds - Footsteps.espIHSS-FSO.espETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.espERSO 29 - DPMO.espMorrowloot.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espSupernatural AI - Vampires & Monsters.espSupernatural AI - Humans & Undeads.espUltimateCombat.espLore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.espSkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.espadvancedwerewolf.espERSO 02 - EFMS vanilla heights.espSupernatural AI - Wilderness.espERSO 02.1 - Realistic Animal Loots.espSupernatural AI - Wilderness - SkyTest Patch.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espFSP - Dawnguard Edition.espRealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esprcrnShaders.espSnowShaderFix.espRealShelter.espPureweather.espAOS2_DGDB Patch.espImmersive Sounds - Footsteps Dragonborn Patch.espRCRNdgdb.espSkyFalls + SkyMills Wyrmstooth.espSupernatural AI - Town Npc.espethereal_elven_overhaul.espOBIS.espaMidianBorn_ContentAddon.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espCommonClothes.espSupernatural AI - Bestiary.espBring Out Your Dead.espSupernatural AI - Assorted adjustments.esptrulyundead.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espCCO_SIC_Patch.espSPERG-DB.espSPERG.espERSO 08.99 - Lord of the Dead.espPerk Fix Overhaul.espSupernatural AI - Dragonborn.espWarmongerArmory_LeveledList.espBrigandage.espSPTConsistentOlderPeople.espDiversePriests.espDiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.espOBISDB.espOBIS-UDBP Patch.espCivil War Overhaul.espFireAndIceOverhaul.espDestructible_bottles.espAOS_FIO Patch.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.espElemental Staves.espTKChildren_DB.espSTEP Core Patch.espBFT Ships and Carriages.espchfshPlayerVoicesets.espDiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.espAOS_RealisticWater2 patch.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espAOS_ADS Patch.espBirdsHFclean.espwizDynamicThings.espAOS_ICS Patch.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espETaC - Complete LoS Patch.espSPERG Immersive Armors.espSPERG-DG.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espAOS_USKP patch.espAOS-GDO Patch.espImmersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp_admod.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.espTKChildren_V.espWATER DB Waves.espETaC - Complete NSutR Patch.espPopulated Dungeons Caves Ruins.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espExpandedWinterholdRuinsExterior.espETaC - Complete 3DNPC Patch.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espTheChoiceIsYours.espImmersive Patrols Merged All.espPoint The Way.espPopulated Forts Towers Places.espUniqueBorderGates-All.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espPopulated Cities Towns Villages.espAOS2-RCRN_AE_Patch.espPureweather_AOS2 Patch.espInigo.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espImmersive Weapons.espLore Weapon Expansion.espMorrowloot LWE.espEndgame NPC Overhaul.espAela.espCatlike Khajiit + NPCs.espBW v2.6.espHothFollower.espHothFollower UFO Patch.espSupernatural AI - Serana.espSerana.espCCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.espOBIS-IW Patch.espPurewaters.espChesko_Frostfall.espBatTravel.espFSP - Unique Towns & Locations.espDead Body Collision.espDr_Bandolier.espBandolierForNPCMasterFile.espAnimated Enchantments.espPopulated Skyrim Prisons Cells.espCCO_Frostfall_Patch.espWATER DG.espWATER.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.espSkyrimChimneysRW.espBandit Patrols.espGuardedBorders.espFunctionalBags.espAlternativeCraftingSystem.espWATER Plants.espDragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.espExtended Encounters.espHoldBorderBanners.espKonnektorDragonborn.espAOS_CWO Patch.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espCombatDramaOverhaul.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espiNeed.espOBIS-USKP Patch.espTheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.espRCRNvolumetric.espReal Clouds.espWerewolfAftermathEquipper.espWetandCold - Ashes.espOpen Cities Skyrim.espBashed Patch, 0.esp As you can see the number of mods is too damn high. Could somebody help me cut this down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyacathusarullistad Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Is this a BOSS sorted load order? I suspect not. That's the first thing you should do. It should help with any stability issues you may be having, but if nothing else it will group plugins from the same mod more or less together in most cases, which will help indicate which options from which mods you're using. As it is it's quite difficult to tell for certain what recommendations one could make. Are you looking to trim your load order for the start of a new playthrough? Because if you're looking to do this mid-playthrough, you should know that removing mods from a save isn't recommended. If you expect to be uninstalling anything you should be prepared to start a new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warriormantis Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 yeah I'm prepared to start a new game, and I've used LOOT to sort the load order; not sure if that makes a difference to using BOSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyacathusarullistad Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) My understanding is that LOOT is still very much an alpha phase program. As far as I'm aware the conventional wisdom is that BOSS is currently more reliable. I could be mistaken though - if I am, someone will likely correct me. There are a few things I see though that could help though. First, you can uncheck StaticMeshImprovement.esp. While the mod itself is basically a must-have, the handful of changes made by that specific plugin are now covered by the Unofficial Skyrim Patch.You can also uncheck Dr_Bandolier and Dr_BandolierDG, as Complete Crafting Overhaul has the Bandoliers mod integrated into it. You still need the mod itself installed for the meshes and textures, but you don't need the .esp files active. If you leave them active, you might find that every bandolier and pouch appears in the crafting menus twice. I don't know about you, but such clutter in the crafting menus drives me insane. XP If you can't find the recipes once you've disabled the plugins, make sure they're set to appear in crafting menus in CCOR's MCM menu. Also, is there a reason you have both WATER and Realistic Water Two intsalled? They make changes to very much the same set of things. The only thing I can think of RW2 having that WATER doesn't is the new sounds; everything else can be done with either mod, with slight differences that come down to personal opinion. Deciding between the two would help eliminate several plugins. That's all I can see myself. Like I said, it's difficult for me to make connections with a LOOT sorted load order. You may want to look into merging some of your plugins as well. It's a little more involved than just point a click, but it's not at all complicated. Merging similar mods into a single plugin can help when you've got as extensive a load order as yours. Edited April 18, 2014 by Hyacathusarullistad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warriormantis Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks a lot for the suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serithi Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 LOOT is the newest version of BOSS, so it shouldn't matter too much, but as Hya said it's also still in alpha so be aware. As a general rule of thumb though, you should never rely solely on BOSS or LOOT for setting your load order, because they can sometimes get stuff wrong. Run them at first to get most of the hard work done, and then manually comb through the load order to fix anything that's out of place. Just off a quick glance of your modlist, you can afford to remove ShowRaceMenuAlternative. ShowRaceMenu is only a single console command away, it's just a matter of finding a spot with decent lighting, which isn't too hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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