sinisterassasin Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 American i am not but i salute to your veterans for there bravery :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaLkAwaY Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 American i am not but i salute to your veterans for there bravery :) Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted54170User Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 American i am not but i salute to your veterans for there bravery :) A tip of the hat to you too. For bravery is among all members of the entire planets people. I hope it never dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeman Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Veterans are simply people who reluctantly left their families and ordinary lives to visit the darkest and most hellish areas on earth. They fight for \"freedom\" and die for \"their country\", sad truth is that only one of those are correct. America is huge, and no country has the even slightest potential to invade it. These people fought for one thing, and one thing only: Their leaders. Sad truth is that most modern day conflicts are simply about money, war means profit, and alot of it. These people do deserve recognition for their bravery, but we shouldn\'t wallow in patriotism and joy during this day, instead we should ask \"Why?\", for the truth is that the government only sends people to Korea, Vietnam and Iraq to earn money, nothing more, nothing less. The whole \"freedom and patriotism\" is a smear campaign, patriotism is a motivation and freedom is a lie. Is being forced to fight to the death really freedom? Is being imprisioned for not taking part in killing people of another nation freedom? Is the definition of patriotism the meaningless spilling of forgein blood for the sake of capitalism? How many people are there in Iraq? And how many are there in America? The veterans should be honored for their effort, but what people should ask themselves is who the true enemy really is... Pherhaps there is more to it than just freedom. I mean, there is about ten times as many american inhabitants as there is people in Iraq, so is an invasion really that risky? I know they say that there are weapons of mass-destruction in Iraq, allthough how come that a religious fanatic who just wants people to die lays them aside to hijack airplanes and brainwash people into blowimg themselves up... Most veterans these days are from Vietnam and Iraq, two lesser nations with not even a third of the population that America has. War is profit, the congress exploits and the real enemy is the one to delcare these people veterans in the first place. We should honor these people, but we should also make sure that this will never happen again, -that- is what we never should forget... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanbean234 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 @ Strangeman -- Yep, America is huge. Canada has the potential to invade us, I suppose, and honestly I'd welcome them in... I've eaten poutine and consider it right tasty... but aside from that, war is always about money. Always has been, always will be. If you've got the time, read War Is A Racket by General Smedley Butler.( http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm )Written in 1935, it points out what the policies that Mr. Butler was sent to enforce during his exemplary service in the U.S. Marine Corps. I'm not here to debate the validity or purpose of armed aggression (and I speak from experience... I'm a former infantryman, currently serving as a combat medic in the 2nd Infantry Division). The purpose of Veterans' Day (formerly Armistice Day, commemorating the end of World War I) is not a celebration of the battlefield, nor should it be. At its' most noble, it serves best as a simple rememberance of those who served, whatever their motive may have been, and at its least noble, it's a good excuse for a day off from work to hold one last barbeque before the weather gets too cold to grill outdoors. Those that thank me for what I do... hey, you're welcome. Those that vilify me for what I do... hey, you're entitled to your opinion. Those that just take the excuse to barbeque... hey, that one's done, stick a fork in it and turn it over. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeman Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 @ Strangeman -- Yep, America is huge. Canada has the potential to invade us, I suppose, and honestly I\'d welcome them in... I\'ve eaten poutine and consider it right tasty... but aside from that, war is always about money. Always has been, always will be. If you\'ve got the time, read War Is A Racket by General Smedley Butler.( http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm )Written in 1935, it points out what the policies that Mr. Butler was sent to enforce during his exemplary service in the U.S. Marine Corps. I\'m not here to debate the validity or purpose of armed aggression (and I speak from experience... I\'m a former infantryman, currently serving as a combat medic in the 2nd Infantry Division). The purpose of Veterans\' Day (formerly Armistice Day, commemorating the end of World War I) is not a celebration of the battlefield, nor should it be. At its\' most noble, it serves best as a simple rememberance of those who served, whatever their motive may have been, and at its least noble, it\'s a good excuse for a day off from work to hold one last barbeque before the weather gets too cold to grill outdoors. Those that thank me for what I do... hey, you\'re welcome. Those that vilify me for what I do... hey, you\'re entitled to your opinion. Those that just take the excuse to barbeque... hey, that one\'s done, stick a fork in it and turn it over. :thumbsup: Right, I get it. Pratonise me and go on being another puppet of capitalism, nice work. Your effort is noted, your purpouse is corrupt, what annoys me the most is how you deny it so much. I\'d respect someone who said that they worked without giving a damn about if what they did was right or wrong, but to twist it around and act like it\'s okay? Well, it\'s ironic how a coward can be so corageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanbean234 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Right, I get it. Pratonise me and go on being another puppet of capitalism, nice work. Your effort is noted, your purpouse is corrupt, what annoys me the most is how you deny it so much. I\'d respect someone who said that they worked without giving a damn about if what they did was right or wrong, but to twist it around and act like it\'s okay? Well, it\'s ironic how a coward can be so corageous. Look, chucklenuts, I do what I do because the economy was sucking in 2006 when I returned into service, and I was working in a bakery making only $7.50/hr with no benefits because that was the best job I could find in the civilian sector, and I like to plan for some sort of retirement. Congratulations, you've just earned a spot on my "Ignore" list. Go spew your bile at someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaLkAwaY Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 I made this thread simply to say thank you. I guess it was too much to ask that just for one thread, "ONE" that people could just simply say thank you, thank you to a minority of individuals (our service members) that although get thanks for what they do, all to often have to endure a less than cordial society. A simple thank you, no message, no history, politics, morality... just thank you. Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeman Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Gee, sorry for adding realism to my life, I\\\'ll try not to learn stuff >_>. But yeah, here\\\'s the reply you wanted from me:*Insert patronising remark here* ...Ever interacted with real veterans that wasn\\\'t online? Because I have, and they hate the patronising remarks. My father was a veteran, and so was his father, my other grandfather was also a veteran, I got veterans in my family back to the middle ages, because then they where blacksmiths, I interact with them and their friends daily, maybe they are more sincere than others, but one thing\'s for sure: they hate being patronised, they see it as an insult and a sign of pity. Only reason why they don\'t say anything is because they know little people are aware of that. But hey! If you wanna force it on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted54170User Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Veteran's Day is passed. Thank goodness for the day off. It was refreshing to see the variety of good will and good intentions. While some bits of philosophy heated the belly of the pit raising flames to fan the coals and words added some spice to the mental vegetable's wrapped in foil with the hamburgers, hot dogs, and steaks sizzling on the barbecue grate. Ah wonder?! If size does matter when the giants walk the planet and the little people who are strangely familiar, who they see, and hear shouting up to them and asking if the giant is going their way and could see it in their will to give them a lift home from the battle they both fought in abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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