Tired Of Seeing Idiotic Reviews From Players With Bad Pcs

[jdarksun]

I give Oblivion a 5 out of 10 at best - so far it's been a huge disappointment, and not because of performance-related issues.

Generally speaking, I find the people who find Oblivion to be disappointing base that decision on certain platforms - almost exclusively the scaling and certain types of "ease of use" accomodations (quick travel, quest waypoints, the compass, the UI in general).

 

While I certainly agree with some of these complaints - the inventory / spell UI in particular - I'm not sure that the overall naysayers would be happy with those concerns addressed. I don't think they could get past the fact that, when they started (or heard about) it for the first time, it wasn't exactly what they wanted.

 

I don't have any proof to back this up with, it's just a feeling I have.

[edstamos1]

Personally I find it a solid game, but as Theta said, it's hardly a masterpiece. The game is a step up from morrowind in graphics and AI, and perhaps better balanced for different styles of play.

 

So far I've encountered no graphical problems (most settings are lowered quite a bit since I have basically minimum specs).

 

The AI certainly gives the illusion of a living world, albeit a relatively unintelligent one with little to say...seems everyone recently saw a mudcrab down by the water...This is one thing that can certainly be improved upon by the modding community. Giving people more to say.

 

And yes, there's issues with the UI...I'm still trying to get used to it.

 

Besides, haven't you heard? most of peoples problems with the game these days isn't related to performance - it's the level scaling. Just read the 200+ threads griping on the official forums

[kcgirlgeek]

I find it amazing that you call me UNcritical for calling it a masterpiece, and yet don't call someone rating it 1.1 OVERLY critical. Come ON here...1.1??? I would have maybe rated the game E.T. 1.0, not THIS game. That is ridiculous to rate this game 1.0 or 1.1.

 

If you are going to say that I am UNcritical, at least be FAIR about it and admit that someone rating this game 1.1 for having some bugs (which I'm sure it must have since you all say you've found so many)....is OVERLY critical.

 

All I'm asking for here is for you to judge others' opinions as harshly as you seem to be judging mine. Mine gets judged more harshly just because it it overly positive as opposed to overly negative. That makes just loads of sense, guys.

 

That's fine if you want to say it's hardly a masterpiece, but then I will reply, it's also hardly a flop. Thank you.

[Peregrine]

Calling Oblivion a 1 is being overcritical, yes. A 1 out of 10 should be reserved for the "games" that really deserve it, the truly awful worst of the worst. Oblivion isn't one of them... but at the same time, it's definitely not a 10 of 10 masterpiece. Like Theta Orionis said, somewhere around 5 out of 10 is pretty fair, the game is playable and decent fun, but has plenty of things in need of improvement.

 

 

And criticizing the game for poor performance on low-end systems IS a valid complaint. The engine has hardware demands vastly out of proportion to the results it produces. And the worst offender, the landscape system, is still inferior to Guild Wars (in my opinion). And that game runs flawlessly at max settings on my computer!

[Leros]

Well im still not sure if bethesda or nvidia is to blame for certain crashes. while im sure beth is responsible for that stupid error msg i get everytime i close the game, it seems that the game crashes since i updated the drivers for my 7800 GTX...i would just go back to my old 81.98 forceware drivers, but with the 84.21 the game runs a loot smoother than it did before.

 

there are still a lot of bugs that have nothing to do with the system and a lot of shortcomings that seem to be related to the game being a port from xbox to pc. i wonder how you, with the nice machine you got cant be upset by the fact that you cant run HDR and antialiasing at once and the awful standard textures you get for mountains that are far away (even if that can be fixed as i have heard).

 

while the game is really good, its far from being the best game ever made

[kcgirlgeek]

Geez....I never said it was the "best game ever made," nor did I give it a 10 when I rated it on Gamespot. I'm getting words put in my mouth here. I do think it is an amazing game. I don't remember if I've ever rated any game a perfect 10...maybe Planescape Torment, I don't remember, that's been ages ago.

 

No, it doesn't upset me that I presently can't have HDR and AA on at the same time, I imagine over the course of time several things will change. I just don't get my panties all in a wad when a game is first released unless it is so buggy it just won't run, because patches are invariably released and technology as it is, is in constant flux.

 

I don't know. I'm tired of defending my enthusiasm over this game really. I still think it is a marvel. I adore it. I'm ENJOYING it....and isn't THAT what gaming is for? I think sometimes we all get too dang serious over games. The primary purpose of gaming is to have fun. So I'm going to go back to doing that. I'm really enjoying this game, minor bugs and all, and I'm not going to let those trivial things that will probably be fixed soon bother me in the least.

 

Sorry I'm such an ol' "cranky butt" about all this, but I just tend to get defensive when I'm enjoying something so very much (FINALLY, after waiting for years) and then have people "poo pooing" it at every turn. It's like being told something you really enjoy is crappy. Well, I respectfully disagree. =D

 

But I'm glad we all have opinions - the world would be dull and boring without them.

[kamikazekillerboy]

No one is quesioning you about your opinions on the game; most of us agree. I just don't see why you needed to post your monitor and other useless info about how good your pc is. Processor, Ram and Graphics would have been adequate - and does nothing to back up your points.

Want to show them off? - stick them in your sig to be a little more subtle.

[Dark0ne]

kcgirl, you said the game was a 10 for you and people are disagreeing with you. People are entitled to do that -- they're not attacking you; they're not saying you're lame, retarded or incapable of understanding...they're disagreeing.

 

There's a difference.

[tamtamtam]

kcgirl, you said the game was a 10 for you and people are disagreeing with you. People are entitled to do that -- they're not attacking you; they're not saying you're lame, retarded or incapable of understanding...they're disagreeing.

 

There's a difference.

 

 

Dark0ne this is my first foray onto your boards and I have to say your comments on Nvidia cards are not to my taste. First, right now its Nividia who is following the rules and ATI who is trying to get away with not following the DirectX api in order to achieve better frame rates. Go to hardware.fr where they report quite reliably that ATI does not support Vertex Shading 3.0 correctly. Their excuse is that they dont need to because of their unified R2VB support, however as Hardware.fr correctly points out, if the situation were reversed ATI would be all over Nvidia for not following the API as quite clearly ATI smacked Nvidia a few years ago with their 5XXXX series of cards.

 

Its worth noting that the unified R2VB shader model which ATI created brilliantly for the XBOX 360 system does a great job however it is NOT support by any pc games that I know of nor is it supported by Microsoft DirectX 9 api which dropped the ball in allowing certification on the Vertex Shader 3.0 even though ATI has no VERTEX TEXTURE 3.0 support at all. The API has a fault and that is poorly written code by Microsoft which means all you who have ATI cards do not have Vertex Texturing. This allows for faster cards as ATI does not have to draw Vertex Texture models but they are visually impaired.

 

I will respect your board and not post the article nor will I post the url as I do not know your policy on these matters and this is your board.

 

However, I beg of you to please consider the feelings of the people who come to your website who actually prefer Nvidia's current generation to that of ATI. But are fine companies and I have used both Radeon and Nvidia I just happen to prefer Nvidia in this current generation.

 

Anyway, I came here to figure out how to use the mods for Oblivion so I will continue my search :)

 

Cheers

 

Tamarelle

 

ps I neglected to mention the article is in french but I can translate for you if you do not speak french :)

[Dark0ne]

I am entitled to my opinion as anyone else is, and I do not presume to tell people I am right (although its not scientific fact, it has been proven) on these sorts of matters simply because these are my boards.

 

Although off-topic to the current discussion I will respond as short as possible. No vertex shading 3.0 support or marketing a whole range of graphics cards to the gaming public that aren't actually gaming cards at all, and have very little or no support for current gen games.

 

I know which one I can forgive more.