Slyther987 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So, after playing morrowwind there was a subject that was never touched uppon, even though it was part of the lore. in morrowwind you were charged by moleg Bal to kill his daughter, while she was of the deadric realms it ran to mind that it is posible for a deadric prince to consive offspring. Further evidence implies that it is very possible since the deadric prince of madness sheogorath, was once a mortal (champion of chirodill) who bested the mad prince's couterpart. this got me thinking, in Skyrim, the new Sheogorath, looked like and acted like the old one with memories of the new. through much theory a thought came to mind, what if the fact that made the deadric princes who they were, wasn't there being but rather the power behind there being. using the hero of oblivion as an example. the hero can be any gender or race. but at the end of the shivering islands DLC they become the new sheogorath, the power of that prince has entered them. over time the power sees this mortal vessle as not befitting of the aspect of madness so it changes them, phisically and mentally, untill they are sheogorath. with that in mind i realised that the deadric princes could easily spawn offspring though another mortal. after reading up on greek and roman mythos an idea spring to mind. encountering the deadric offspring. each having a small ammount of there pairents power, and more so being controled by that power, as if it were part of there being. from there i thought, wouldn't it be awsome to goon quests for or against them depending on there power and who there deadric pairent is. for example if your a good knight encountering myridia's daughter, promising to help her clear out a lenthly dungion filled with all sorts of undead. but on the flip side, if your a necromancer, tricking her by agreeing to help her, clear out the undead castle, take the castle for your own and then betray her. even better, when betraying her you could use a quest related soul gem that would bring her back to life, but as an undead, that can't harm you and act as a follower. what do you think, might be an epic set of quest mods were your either for or against the deadric offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted1308005User Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 *Cough cough*Dremoras.*Cough cough* Werebeasts*Cough* Vampires. Sorry, must have caught cold. Anyhow, Daedric princes do talk about their "Creations" as one would talk about their children. Anyhow, in short, you are requesting quests where you could either fight for the daedric princes, or against them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx12001 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Molag grunda is not molag bals biological offspring she is more of an adopted daughter of his and not to mention molag grunda is a winged twilight / a daedra of azura and molag bal is not also the book aedra and daedra claim daedric "princes" cannot have children which is further evidence. Edited August 14, 2014 by tx12001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted1308005User Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Molag grunda is not molag bals biological offspring she is more of an adopted daughter of his and not to mention molag grunda is a winged twilight / a daedra of azura and molag bal is not also the book aedra and daedra claim daedric "princes" cannot have children which is further evidence. As said, they talk about their creations like one would speak of their children.Priest talks about his children without them being related at all, it's just a way of speaking. "Daughters of Coldharbour" as well. Anyhow, I guess this thread is getting to wrong direction, could OP clarify what you are requesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyhome Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) If I remember correctly, Bal and Vivec had children, although I don't really want to delve into the biology involved...Edit: "Children" means horrible, twisted monsters. Edited August 14, 2014 by notmyhome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted1308005User Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Vivec was "man-made" god. (Or Mer-made), thus he could have children before rising to "divinity" or "Godhood" PRe-editI was writing something else, then I was wondering "Dafug is Bal", until I realized it's ol' pal' Molly! Anyhow, I haven't played morrowind, but I've read probably all books and info about vivec and other Gods of tribunal. Isn't the story of Molag Bal raping Vivec (The Magical hermaphrodite) kinda myth?Or if it's not, I'd seriously want to see TES game where you play as vivec and live his story. (Minus the raping part. That'd be ugly) And yes, Vivec did kill all his own child. Probably because they were monsters. Beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyhome Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Yea, it was some kind of rape, although Vivec didn't exactly struggle. From what I've pieced together he needed the experience of being absolutely dominated in order to achieve CHIM, but don't quote me on that.Anyway, it seems that Daedra can in fact have offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyther987 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Molag grunda is not molag bals biological offspring she is more of an adopted daughter of his and not to mention molag grunda is a winged twilight / a daedra of azura and molag bal is not also the book aedra and daedra claim daedric "princes" cannot have children which is further evidence. As said, they talk about their creations like one would speak of their children.Priest talks about his children without them being related at all, it's just a way of speaking. "Daughters of Coldharbour" as well. Anyhow, I guess this thread is getting to wrong direction, could OP clarify what you are requesting? the idea was a mod that was a set of quests where you could meet and partake in quests with the offspring of deadric prince's. as 'notmyhome' stated "Anyway, it seems that Daedra can in fact have offspring." it's not that far fetched an idea that the the deadric prince's could consive an offspring for there own ends. for example Mehrunes Dagon once tried to enter the relm of Nirn from his plan of Oblivion. however in the books it has been stated that Deadric Princes have entered Nirn (Tamrial), however they are ristricted by there means of entry. in Skyrim, Nocternal only makes an appearance in one place. (can't spell the name, it's at the end of the thiefs guild place) my theory to this is that there power is linked to there plain of oblivion and that without a direct and substansial link (oblivion crisis) they cannot maintain a great ammount of power on nirn. however, a thought occured that the deadric artifacts can be sustained in Nirn and in fact spend hundreds of years in Nirn before mearly moving to another place of there own accord, even when destroyed they re-construct themselfs some time later.) the artifacts themself have a small ammount of the deadric Prince's power, but they can only influence the holder to there use. the artifacts are in essance a small amount of the deadric Prince's influence and power. but a weilder strong enouth can meary place them in a chest to be forgotten. but what if a portion of there power, with an ancor to Nirn, could think and act on it's own. that's were the deadric offspring idea sprung to mind. in greek mythos it's not uncommon (in my own oppinion seams to happen all the time.) the greek god sire children in mortals. so to clarify what i would like is a set of quest mods, where... you meet the offspring of a deadric prince.(i don't want it just out of the blue it would be good if the dragon born either witnesses something that kinda give it away or through investigation. e,g, the offspring of sheogorath could defete a group of bandits by first threatening to kill them with a butterfly. ehich they then turn in to a dragon (like they have the power of the wabbajack in there hand) and sick on the bandits.) you quest with them, something they want or require. you can stab them in the back if you so choose. (i mean who would want to completely help the child of Mehrunes Dagon.) or finish helping them and gain them as an ally. also one of the things i would like is that if you say help the child of Myridia who is the deadric prince of light and life, and have that child as a companion, you might have little to no choice but to fight the offspring of Namira the deadric prince of things disformed, desease and death. (althought i find Namira disgusting myself, it's an apt example.) now i'm not meaning all confontations would instantly resort to one trying to kill the other, but some conflicts would be of an extream nature that the dragonborn would have to side with.) finally it would be intresting if being on certain factions would play in to how the deadric children see you or even wish your help, some may go as far as wanting you dead if they realise who you work for. (for example Boethiah's child may compliment you on your acts in the dark brotherhood. while the child of Mehrunes Dagon might not take too kindly for you ending the Skyrim Civil war. in short meet deadric prince's offspring help them (or hinder) backstab or companion. factions and other deadric offspring could cause you to have to fight them outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilfre16 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Molag grunda is not molag bals biological offspring she is more of an adopted daughter of his and not to mention molag grunda is a winged twilight / a daedra of azura and molag bal is not also the book aedra and daedra claim daedric "princes" cannot have children which is further evidence. As said, they talk about their creations like one would speak of their children.Priest talks about his children without them being related at all, it's just a way of speaking. "Daughters of Coldharbour" as well. Anyhow, I guess this thread is getting to wrong direction, could OP clarify what you are requesting? you meet the offspring of a deadric prince.(i don't want it just out of the blue it would be good if the dragon born either witnesses something that kinda give it away or through investigation. e,g, the offspring of sheogorath could defeat a group of bandits by first threatening to kill them with a butterfly. which they then turn in to a dragon (like they have the power of the wabbajack in there hand) and sick on the bandits.) I would love to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtam Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 "meet deadric prince's offspringhelp them (or hinder)backstab or companion." Having watched recently "Amorres Perros", I could point out there is one such quest already. Good luck with the rest fifteen-or-something quests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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