Deleted5770650User Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 OP the only thing I would recommend you consider is getting a GTX 760 instead of a 750ti or the 7850. I never used the word soon. I was referring to the fact that future games he might want to install will be a lot heavier. I also said he should be patient, I didn't claim that he could afford it right now. There will be two new generations of CPU in the upcoming two years so saying the development has slowed down is downright false information. It seems you are the one trying to rush him into a bad decision, not me. A good i5 will work just fine, and in fact there are cases in gaming where and i5 will out perform an i7. Not all games handle hyper-threading well, and the only real difference between an i5 and an i7 is hyper-threading.That is unless you are comparing LGA 1150 with LGA 2011, but thats a different subject. I would prefer to spend a bit more and make sure it will last longer, but I also understand that not everyone has that luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkasha Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Well considering the specs of the laptop he posted, which runs Skyrim just fine, I don't see why he would rush for a mediocre upgrade when a couple of hundred bucks gets him so much more. It is true that getting a better GPU is going to improve his fps by far more, but I figured that's self explanatory. I never go for budget setups personally, the times I did I found myself buying a budget component I was unsatisfied within a month or two and went to buy the better option. Edited August 14, 2014 by Valkasha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husain Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Similar does not equal the same. The i7 is still better. You just posted the proof yourself. I rest my case, your either trolling, stupid or drunk. Guess I'm stupid then because your post shows that the i7 performs better. No it doesn't. Comparing same architecture in that chart the only i5 listed is the 2500k so they ONLY option you have to compare it to is the 2600k which performed within margin of error. It performs that closely and that particular game is a top down strategy war sim. (usually high on cpu requirements) I do like how you are desperately trying to justify your recommendation though. You still haven't proven me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted5770650User Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Well considering the specs of the laptop he posted, which runs Skyrim just fine, I don't see why he would rush for a mediocre upgrade when a couple of hundred bucks gets him so much more. Just because you don't see why does not make it a bad choice. Also "so much more" is a matter of opnion.I find the Cooler Master HAF 912 to be a good case. Does that mean everyone now has to agree that it is a good case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husain Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Well considering the specs of the laptop he posted, which runs Skyrim just fine, I don't see why he would rush for a mediocre upgrade when a couple of hundred bucks gets him so much more. It is true that getting a better GPU is going to improve his fps by far more, but I figured that's self explanatory. I never go for budget setups personally, the times I did I found myself buying a budget component I was unsatisfied within a month or two and went to buy the better option. Did you honestly just tell him to go big or go home essentially? You really want him to stick with his GT 730m for the next couple of weeks/months? (however often he gets paid, probably not often hes giving off that high school kid vibe) A 7870 is a MASSIVE upgrade from that. You are just starting to sound like a spoiled rich kid or atleast someone with no bills to pay. By your standards no one would ever upgrade. Edited August 14, 2014 by Husain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breems Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Well considering the specs of the laptop he posted, which runs Skyrim just fine, I don't see why he would rush for a mediocre upgrade when a couple of hundred bucks gets him so much more. It is true that getting a better GPU is going to improve his fps by far more, but I figured that's self explanatory. I never go for budget setups personally, the times I did I found myself buying a budget component I was unsatisfied within a month or two and went to buy the better option.I understand your view. I debated this build for a while, but I still believe it would be a significant upgrade over my laptop, especially in doubling CPU cores and RAM. I probably overstated the abilities of my laptop. I have to turn grass way down, turn off grass shadows, use 2XAA, use Low shadows, and turn down draw distances to stay consistently over 45FPS. I'm not really an intense gamer. The newest games I play are Skyrim and Bad Company 2. The newest stuff isn't really a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husain Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Heres what I slapped together. What PSU is your friend giving you (also do you have a windows key)? I tried to keep it down to a couple merchants but if you want to shift stuff around to get it all from one place thats fine. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kst9wP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breems Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Well considering the specs of the laptop he posted, which runs Skyrim just fine, I don't see why he would rush for a mediocre upgrade when a couple of hundred bucks gets him so much more. It is true that getting a better GPU is going to improve his fps by far more, but I figured that's self explanatory. I never go for budget setups personally, the times I did I found myself buying a budget component I was unsatisfied within a month or two and went to buy the better option. Did you honestly just tell him to go big or go home essentially? You really want him to stick with his GT 730m for the next couple of weeks/months? (however often he gets paid, probably not often hes giving off that high school kid vibe) A 7870 is a MASSIVE upgrade from that. You are just starting to sound like a spoiled rich kid or atleast someone with no bills to pay. By your standards no one would ever upgrade.I hold a fulltime job as a software developer, so I'm not pinching pennies. I'm budgeting simply because I don't want to pay more than I need to for the end result I want. I'm also going to have to throw in a new monitor, and I want to funnel some of the extra in the budget to that. Recently buying a house also has me on watch since the wife keeps coming up with things we "need." I'll get you the specs on the PSU soon. Edited August 14, 2014 by Breems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akreontage Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Let me add my 50 cents... As far as I understand you don't care about newly coming games, and you will stick with old ones. Then quad core is your choice.But anyway if you will decide to play new titles here is what you need to know. Big companies will focus mostly on new consoles (PS4, xbone). Since 90% of games are poor console ports and they won't redesign game engines, most likely you will get "straight" un-optimized game ports...Here is the thing. Both consoles have 8 thread cpus. 2 of them are for OS. Games utilize 6 threads. If I wanted to build future proof pc (to be able to play PS4, Xbone generation games) I would stick with hexa core cpu.For example new title Watch_Dogs (which is absolutely bad game by the way.... just saying) properly utilizes all 6 cores. All upcoming titles will. My i7-3930k comes in handy. Also there are some old titles which benefit from hexa core. Battlefield 3 for example. Huge improvement over quad cores. Yet there are really few of such titles. For "previous generation" games quad core is right choice.But for "current generation" (write it in quotes because it is just marketing and not technical condition of game) gaming I would stick with hexa core cpus. Now lets talk about GPUs and RAM.New consoles have unified memory. Now that really is a disaster for us PC gamers. Unified memory means that GPU uses non-fixed amount of video memory. PS4 has 8gb of ram, so in theory GPU could utilize up to 8gb of video memory (that's not true of course, the system would hang if all of the memory was used by gpu...). What does it mean for us, pure-console-ports users? More stuttering. That's it. Games will suffer from texture streaming if there will be not enough memory. Watch_Dogs shows that well. All relatively new (and relatively old GPUs :smile:) are muuch better than console gpus. That means you will get much higher frame rates and higher graphics settings even with older gpus. But I would say 4gb vram gpu is a must have for current gaming generation. Because they just won't use PC memory architecture when porting games. 8GB of ram is must have. I'd say even 1333mhz memory is fine. Yet RAM is really cheap right now. About storage devices...If you want faster loading times go with SSD. That's it.I would stick with 7200rpm hdd... I did many tests with ram disk (which is much faster than ssd) and can say you this - SSDs don't improve performance in games. They don't eliminate stuttering and stuff. That's what I wanted to tell you. Don't know if this will be useful to you. Edited August 14, 2014 by Akreontage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husain Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Well considering the specs of the laptop he posted, which runs Skyrim just fine, I don't see why he would rush for a mediocre upgrade when a couple of hundred bucks gets him so much more. It is true that getting a better GPU is going to improve his fps by far more, but I figured that's self explanatory. I never go for budget setups personally, the times I did I found myself buying a budget component I was unsatisfied within a month or two and went to buy the better option. Did you honestly just tell him to go big or go home essentially? You really want him to stick with his GT 730m for the next couple of weeks/months? (however often he gets paid, probably not often hes giving off that high school kid vibe) A 7870 is a MASSIVE upgrade from that. You are just starting to sound like a spoiled rich kid or atleast someone with no bills to pay. By your standards no one would ever upgrade.I hold a fulltime job as a software developer, so I'm not pinching pennies. I'm budgeting simply because I don't want to pay more than I need to for the end result I want. I'm also going to have to throw in a new monitor, and I want to funnel some of the extra in the budget to that. Recently buying a house also has me on watch since the wife keeps coming up with things we "need." I'll get you the specs on the PSU soon. Ah I didn't mean to offend you, I certainly understand having a solid budget. Buying a house certainly is a big ordeal, I never thought I'd have to buy so many curtains... If you need assistance in picking a monitor I am also here. Just throwing this out there this is the one I have an its awesome for the price. Plus its an IPS panel so it doesn't have the massive color distortion you get when you look at to far from the side/top/bottom. http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VS239H-P-23-Inch-Full-HD-Monitor/dp/B008DWITHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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