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Nsinger998

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for some reason I go into imperial city and its messed up with a large message on the ground saying to adjust my load order:

 

• 00 Oblivion.esm

 

• 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

 

• 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

 

• 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

 

• 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

 

• 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

 

• 08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

 

• 09 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

 

• 0A Better Cities Resources.esm

 

• 0B bookplacing.esm [Version 1]

 

• 0C HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

 

• 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

 

• 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

 

• 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

• 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

 

• 11 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.05]

 

• 12 Better Cities .esp

 

• 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

 

• 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

 

• 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

 

• 16 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

 

• 17 Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

 

• 18 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 1A Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

• 1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 1C All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 1E All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]

 

• 1F PCSoundBorrodin.esp [Version 2.6]

 

• 20 Storms & Sound.esp

 

• 21 WindowLightingSystem.esp

 

• 22 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

 

• ++ Cobl Bookjackets.esp

 

• 23 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

 

• ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]

 

• 24 Living Economy - SI.esp

 

• 25 Living Economy - Items.esp

 

• 26 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

 

• 27 DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

• 28 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

 

• 29 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]

 

• 2A DLCOrrery.esp

 

• 2B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

 

• 2C SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]

 

• 2D DLCVileLair.esp

 

• 2E DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

 

• 2F SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21]

 

• 30 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

• 31 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

 

• 32 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.11]

 

• 33 DLCSpellTomes.esp

 

• 34 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

 

• 35 Book Jackets DLC.esp

 

• 36 GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

 

• 37 Slof's Neckchains.esp

 

• 38 Slof's Horses Base.esp

 

• 39 DLCThievesDen.esp

 

• 3A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

 

• 3B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

 

• 3C SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2]

 

• 3D KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]

 

• 3E FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 3F ExnemRuneskulls.esp

 

• 40 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 41 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

 

• ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 42 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

 

• 43 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 44 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

 

• 45 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 46 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

 

• 47 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 48 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

 

• 49 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

 

• 4A FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 4B FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

 

• 4C FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 4D FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• ++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 4E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 4F Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 50 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 51 FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 52 FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 53 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 54 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 55 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 57 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 58 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 59 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 5A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 5B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 5C TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]

 

• 5D TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]

 

• 5E ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

 

• ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 5F FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 60 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 61 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• ++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2]

 

• 62 FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1]

 

• 63 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 64 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 65 OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp

 

• 66 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

 

• ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]

 

• 67 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp

 

• 68 00RBScribeSupplies02, read summary.esp

 

• 69 Delivery Job - BC.esp

 

• 6A JolardHome.esp

 

• ++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

 

• 6B Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

 

• 6C Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

 

• 6D Scribe Supplies.esp

 

• 6E Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

 

• 6F za_bankmod.esp

 

• 70 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

 

• 71 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

 

• 72 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.2]

 

• 73 DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

• 74 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

 

• 75 SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2]

 

• 76 Knights.esp

 

• 77 Knights - Book Jackets.esp

 

• 78 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

 

• 79 SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]

 

• 7A Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

 

• 7B The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp

 

• 7C Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 7D Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• 7E Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• 7F Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• 80 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• ++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0]

 

• 81 Ingredient Storage Shelves.esp

 

• 82 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

 

• 83 Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp

 

• 84 Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp

 

• 85 Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp

 

• 86 MidasSpells.esp

 

• ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.77]

 

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

 

• 87 Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

 

• 88 Better Cities Full.esp

 

• 89 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

 

• 8A Better Imperial City.esp

 

• 8B Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

 

• 8C Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2]

 

• 8D Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

 

• ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

 

• 8E Streamline 3.1.esp

 

• 8F KvatchAftermath, with ScribeSupplies.esp

 

 

this was copied down after a bash patch rebuild in wrye bash.

 

what could be conflicting? I've tried removing animated windows system, clocks of cyrodiil, and real lights. and still get the message.

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Remove • 0C HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

 

You have that scribe supplies plugin loading in the wrong place.

 

Please post your load order through Wrye Bash next time. Right-click on "File" tab and past here. It is more compact, and the dots are kind of confusing.

 

 

Edit: Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- Run you LO through BOSS (again) and use this template to place unknowns in appropriate locations. Make sure you grab the latest masterlist update. There has been an update since the BOSS 1.52 release.

 

• 58 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- This could cause crashes. OOO already includes G&GD, so some users experience crashes do to the inconsistency and conflict between the two modifications. You may need to remove this.

 

• 3F ExnemRuneskulls.esp <-- Exnem's Runeskulls are included in MMM 3.7b3. Please remove these two plugins, and use MMM Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO instead.

 

• 40 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 7C Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- Don't use with BC's defenses. Drop one or the other.

 

• 38 Slof's Horses Base.esp <-- already included in MMM 3.7b3, use MMM Slofs Horses complete option instead

 

• 22 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp <-- Shouldn't you use the ESM version of book placement with this? The ESM version will have less compatibility problems anyway, I think.

 

 

Bashed Patch - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/bashedpatch <-- FCOM has a few exceptions

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Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]
09  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0A  Better Cities Resources.esm
0B  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]
++  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
0D  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
10  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
13  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
15  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
16  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
17  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
18  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  Fran Armor Add-on.esp
19  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
1A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
1B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
1C  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
1D  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
1E  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]
1F  Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp
20  PCSoundBorrodin.esp  [Version 2.6]
21  Storms & Sound.esp
22  WindowLightingSystem.esp
**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
23  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
++  Cobl Bookjackets.esp
24  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
25  Living Economy - SI.esp
26  Living Economy - Items.esp
27  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
28  DLCHorseArmor.esp
29  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2A  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]
2B  DLCOrrery.esp
2C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
2D  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]
2E  DLCVileLair.esp
2F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
30  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]
31  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
32  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
33  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.11]
34  DLCSpellTomes.esp
35  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
36  Book Jackets DLC.esp
37  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
38  Banes Archer Paradox.esp
39  Slof's Neckchains.esp
**  Slof's Horses Base.esp
3A  DLCThievesDen.esp
3B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
3C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
3D  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.2]
3E  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]
3F  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
40  ExnemRuneskulls.esp
41  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
42  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
43  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
44  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
45  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
46  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
47  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
48  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
49  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
4A  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
4B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
4C  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]
4D  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
4E  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
4F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
50  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
51  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
52  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
53  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
54  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
55  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
56  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
57  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
58  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
59  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
5A  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
5B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
5C  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
5D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
5E  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]
5F  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]
60  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
61  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
62  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
63  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
64  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]
65  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
66  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
67  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
68  OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp
69  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
6A  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]
6B  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
6C  00RBScribeSupplies02, read summary.esp
6D  Delivery Job - BC.esp
6E  JolardHome.esp
6F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
70  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
71  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
72  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
73  Scribe Supplies.esp
74  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
75  za_bankmod.esp
76  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
77  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
78  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.2]
79  DLCFrostcrag.esp
7A  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
7B  SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2]
7C  Knights.esp
7D  Knights - Book Jackets.esp
7E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
7F  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]
80  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
81  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
82  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
83  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.5]
++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
84  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
85  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
86  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
87  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Book Placement v2.esp  [Version 2.0]
88  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0]
89  Ingredient Storage Shelves.esp
8A  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
**  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
8B  Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp
8C  Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp
8D  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
8E  MidasSpells.esp
++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.77]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
8F  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
90  Better Cities Full.esp
91  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
92  Better Imperial City.esp
93  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
94  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]
95  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
96  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
97  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
98  Better Cities .esp
99  Streamline 3.1.esp
9A  CASS_Eyes_Faces_Bald_V1.1.esp

 

 

thanks working so far. also got a fix for my oblivion gate weather being stuck

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++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp <-- buggy, remove

 

9A CASS_Eyes_Faces_Bald_V1.1.esp <-- move this

 

40 ExnemRuneskulls.esp <-- included in MMM 3.7, remove this

41 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] <-- not needed anymore

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  • 2 weeks later...

I've had exactly the same problem. For me, the conflict was with Real Lights. Removed it, and the message was gone. Sadly, I do like Real Lights. I've noticed other people able to load Real Lights before Better Cities, but when I do it causes my game to crash.

 

Just in case it isn't Real Lights causing the problem for you, try and use TES4Edit and check for conflicts in the relevant cell. The mods which affect should all be listed. That way you can refine your troubleshooting.

 

EDIT: Apologies, just noticed you were using All Natural - Real Lights not the original version. The All Natural version works fine with Better Cities. Check conflicts with TES4Edit.

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