Nsinger998 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 for some reason I go into imperial city and its messed up with a large message on the ground saying to adjust my load order: • 00 Oblivion.esm • 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9] • 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm • 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm • 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] • 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] • 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] • 07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] • 08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] • 09 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm • 0A Better Cities Resources.esm • 0B bookplacing.esm [Version 1] • 0C HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp • 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] • 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp • 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp • 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] • 11 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.05] • 12 Better Cities .esp • 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp • 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp • 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp • 16 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp • 17 Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp • 18 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 1A Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp • 1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 1C All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 1E All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final] • 1F PCSoundBorrodin.esp [Version 2.6] • 20 Storms & Sound.esp • 21 WindowLightingSystem.esp • 22 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp • ++ Cobl Bookjackets.esp • 23 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp • ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] • 24 Living Economy - SI.esp • 25 Living Economy - Items.esp • 26 Cutthroat Merchants.esp • 27 DLCHorseArmor.esp • 28 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] • 29 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11] • 2A DLCOrrery.esp • 2B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] • 2C SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11] • 2D DLCVileLair.esp • 2E DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] • 2F SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] • 30 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp • 31 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 32 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.11] • 33 DLCSpellTomes.esp • 34 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] • 35 Book Jackets DLC.esp • 36 GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp • 37 Slof's Neckchains.esp • 38 Slof's Horses Base.esp • 39 DLCThievesDen.esp • 3A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] • 3B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 3C SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2] • 3D KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2] • 3E FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 3F ExnemRuneskulls.esp • 40 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 41 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp • ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 42 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp • 43 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 44 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp • 45 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 46 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp • 47 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 48 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] • 49 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] • 4A FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 4B FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] • 4C FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 4D FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 4E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 4F Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 50 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 51 FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 52 FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 53 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 54 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 55 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 57 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 58 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 59 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 5A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 5B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 5C TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c] • 5D TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c] • 5E ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] • ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 5F FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 60 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 61 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2] • 62 FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1] • 63 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 64 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 65 OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp • 66 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] • ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] • 67 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp • 68 00RBScribeSupplies02, read summary.esp • 69 Delivery Job - BC.esp • 6A JolardHome.esp • ++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp • 6B Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp • 6C Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp • 6D Scribe Supplies.esp • 6E Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp • 6F za_bankmod.esp • 70 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp • 71 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 72 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.2] • 73 DLCFrostcrag.esp • 74 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 75 SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2] • 76 Knights.esp • 77 Knights - Book Jackets.esp • 78 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] • 79 SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] • 7A Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp • 7B The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp • 7C Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 7D Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] • 7E Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] • 7F Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] • 80 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] • ++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0] • 81 Ingredient Storage Shelves.esp • 82 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] • 83 Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp • 84 Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp • 85 Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp • 86 MidasSpells.esp • ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.77] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 87 Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp • 88 Better Cities Full.esp • 89 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp • 8A Better Imperial City.esp • 8B Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp • 8C Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2] • 8D Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp • ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] • 8E Streamline 3.1.esp • 8F KvatchAftermath, with ScribeSupplies.esp this was copied down after a bash patch rebuild in wrye bash. what could be conflicting? I've tried removing animated windows system, clocks of cyrodiil, and real lights. and still get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaG Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 12 Better Cities .esp <-- have you tried moving this to last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsinger998 Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 have you fed that load order into BOSS(found on tesnexus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Remove • 0C HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp You have that scribe supplies plugin loading in the wrong place. Please post your load order through Wrye Bash next time. Right-click on "File" tab and past here. It is more compact, and the dots are kind of confusing. Edit: Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- Run you LO through BOSS (again) and use this template to place unknowns in appropriate locations. Make sure you grab the latest masterlist update. There has been an update since the BOSS 1.52 release. • 58 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- This could cause crashes. OOO already includes G&GD, so some users experience crashes do to the inconsistency and conflict between the two modifications. You may need to remove this. • 3F ExnemRuneskulls.esp <-- Exnem's Runeskulls are included in MMM 3.7b3. Please remove these two plugins, and use MMM Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO instead. • 40 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 7C Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- Don't use with BC's defenses. Drop one or the other. • 38 Slof's Horses Base.esp <-- already included in MMM 3.7b3, use MMM Slofs Horses complete option instead • 22 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp <-- Shouldn't you use the ESM version of book placement with this? The ESM version will have less compatibility problems anyway, I think. Bashed Patch - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/bashedpatch <-- FCOM has a few exceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsinger998 Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9] 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] 08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] 09 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 0A Better Cities Resources.esm 0B bookplacing.esm [Version 1] ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp 0C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 10 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.05] 11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 14 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 15 Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp 16 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] 17 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] 18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] ** Fran Armor Add-on.esp 19 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 1A Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9] 1C All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9] 1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9] 1E All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final] 1F Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp 20 PCSoundBorrodin.esp [Version 2.6] 21 Storms & Sound.esp 22 WindowLightingSystem.esp ** Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 23 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp ++ Cobl Bookjackets.esp 24 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] 25 Living Economy - SI.esp 26 Living Economy - Items.esp 27 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 28 DLCHorseArmor.esp 29 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2A SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11] 2B DLCOrrery.esp 2C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 2D SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11] 2E DLCVileLair.esp 2F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 30 SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21] 31 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 32 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 33 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.11] 34 DLCSpellTomes.esp 35 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 36 Book Jackets DLC.esp 37 GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp 38 Banes Archer Paradox.esp 39 Slof's Neckchains.esp ** Slof's Horses Base.esp 3A DLCThievesDen.esp 3B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 3D SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2] 3E KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2] 3F FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9] 40 ExnemRuneskulls.esp 41 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] 42 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp ** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] 43 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 44 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 45 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp 46 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] 47 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 48 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] 49 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] 4A OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 4B FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4C FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] 4D FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4E FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4F Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 50 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 51 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] 52 FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 53 FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 54 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 55 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 57 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 58 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 59 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 5A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 5B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 5C Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 5D Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 5E TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c] 5F TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c] 60 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] 61 FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] 62 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 63 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 64 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] ** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2] 65 FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1] ** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 66 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9] 67 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 68 OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp 69 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] 6A MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] 6B 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp 6C 00RBScribeSupplies02, read summary.esp 6D Delivery Job - BC.esp 6E JolardHome.esp 6F Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 70 Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp 71 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp 72 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp 73 Scribe Supplies.esp 74 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 75 za_bankmod.esp 76 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 77 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 78 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.2] 79 DLCFrostcrag.esp 7A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 7B SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2] 7C Knights.esp 7D Knights - Book Jackets.esp 7E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 7F SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] 80 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp 81 The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp 82 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9] 83 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.5] ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9] 84 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] 85 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 86 Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 87 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0] 88 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0] 89 Ingredient Storage Shelves.esp 8A P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] ** Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 8B Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp 8C Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp 8D Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp 8E MidasSpells.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.77] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 8F Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp 90 Better Cities Full.esp 91 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp 92 Better Imperial City.esp 93 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp 94 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2] 95 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp 96 NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9] 97 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 98 Better Cities .esp 99 Streamline 3.1.esp 9A CASS_Eyes_Faces_Bald_V1.1.esp thanks working so far. also got a fix for my oblivion gate weather being stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp <-- buggy, remove 9A CASS_Eyes_Faces_Bald_V1.1.esp <-- move this 40 ExnemRuneskulls.esp <-- included in MMM 3.7, remove this41 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] <-- not needed anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether_Drake Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I've had exactly the same problem. For me, the conflict was with Real Lights. Removed it, and the message was gone. Sadly, I do like Real Lights. I've noticed other people able to load Real Lights before Better Cities, but when I do it causes my game to crash. Just in case it isn't Real Lights causing the problem for you, try and use TES4Edit and check for conflicts in the relevant cell. The mods which affect should all be listed. That way you can refine your troubleshooting. EDIT: Apologies, just noticed you were using All Natural - Real Lights not the original version. The All Natural version works fine with Better Cities. Check conflicts with TES4Edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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