Noob Modder help, game won't boot

[eman5112]

Ok, still trying to get my game set up. Working on FCOM, and a few other Mods. With what I have, I get about half way through the betheseda logo loading on a black screen, then the game crashes.

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

Oblivion WarCry.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp

Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp

T.I.E4MODS.esp

T.I.E4MODSOOO+FCOM.esp

FineWeapons for OOO.esp

RustyItems for OOO.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

Knights.esp

FCOM_Knights.esp

JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp

FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Tombstone Epitaphs.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-20.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

 

That's my load order. I'm not sure I'm using wry bash correctly, I just boot it and it gave me a bashed patch, 0.esp, then I closed. I didn't mess with anything. Also, when I use BOSS, I get this message

 

" -----------------------------------------------------------------

Unrecognised mod files:

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Unknown mod file: Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp"

 

I think those are the only 2 problems (I hope). Any advice would be awesome!

[ElricOfGrans]

The BOSS message is nothing to worry about; it just does not know what the correct order of that mod is, so it puts it on the end. Usually, you can ignore this. Check the doco for MMM for more info on load order of this (I do not use OOO, so I do not know for you).

 

If you are not able to launch the game, it usually means there is a missing master. In Wrye Bash, mods missing masters have a red check-box: look for this. Right click on any mods missing masters and view the master list, which will tell you what is missing. Some mods (eg Cobl) can run without all their masters, but usually it indicates you are missing an esp.

 

Also, are you using OBSE? I am pretty sure several of those mods need it.

[BlackerrR]

1. I'm 80% that problem is in your Oblivion.ini file. I recommend you to delete it and try playing Oblivion. Don't worry, once you start obse_loader.exe (which you MUST have for some mods), .ini file will reappear.

 

2.DON'T USE TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp with TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp, you must choose either one as read me indicates. It caused bugs for me.

 

3. Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp SHOULD NOT be below Bashed Patch, 0.esp, view MMM's read me for load order. I think you don't even have to use it, since some stuff are already included in FCOM.

 

I think that first problem could be Oblivion.ini, but your load order is not good. For bigger mods, you need to follow installation process in read-mes, especially for FCOM.

 

Please, visit sites below:

 

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcominstall.html

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcomloadorderexpanded.html

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcomoptions.html (this is the most important for "without bugs) installation.

 

Well, I really hope that helps. I'm using OOO, MMM, WarCry, Cobl and FCOM without problems. Maybe my LO can help. Click on 'spoiler' button below to see how it looks. Good Luck in fixing problem, I know how irritating this can be. :thumbsup:

 

 

Active Mod Files:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 underdark.esm

02 GTAesgaard_2.esm

03 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]

04 MathFunctions.esm

05 Jog_X_Mod.esm

06 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]

07 CM Partners.esm

08 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

09 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

0A Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

0B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

0C Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

0D Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm

0E TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

0F FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

10 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]

11 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

12 TRoN.esp

13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.6]

14 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

15 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

16 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

19 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

1A Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1B FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1C Fran Armor Add-on.esp

1D Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp

1E Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

++ oc_darker_nights.esp

1F All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

20 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]

21 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]

22 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp

++ Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp

23 Storms & Sound.esp

24 Rainbows.esp

25 WindowLightingSystem.esp

26 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

27 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

28 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

29 GrayFoxOutfit.esp

2A Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp

2B Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp

2C SigilStonesExpanded1.5.esp

2D Update My Statue.esp [Version 1.30]

2E Living Economy.esp

2F Living Economy - Items.esp

30 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

31 HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp

32 Order_Obelisk_Mark.esp

33 Wayshrine Map Markers.esp

34 DLCHorseArmor.esp

35 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

36 DLCOrrery.esp

37 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

38 DLCVileLair.esp

39 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

3A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

3B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

3C DLCSpellTomes.esp

++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

** Book Jackets DLC.esp

++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

3D ChuiArmorXpack.esp

3E ASlof'sBraceletsandClaws.esp

3F c_dagcol.esp

40 Dread Knight Armor.esp

41 FrostAtronachArmor.esp

42 Gloves.esp

43 Hentai_Compilation.esp

44 Kikai & Slof Clothing.esp

45 Masks Revised.esp

46 Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

47 Nicos Gift.esp

48 Slof's Bracelet Collection.esp

49 Slof's Male Clothing.esp

4A Slof's Neckchains.esp

4B Thieves Arsenal.esp

4C Mage Equipment.esp

4D XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp

4E Armors & Clothes & Weapons - Merged (9).esp

4F Armors & Clothes & Weapons 01 - Merged (4).esp

50 Armors & Clothes & Weapons 02 - Merged (5).esp

51 Armors & Clothes & Weapons 03 - Merged (4).esp

52 DLCThievesDen.esp

53 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

54 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

55 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

56 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

57 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

58 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

59 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

5A FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

5B Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

5C FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

5D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

5E OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]

++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]

++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]

5F FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

60 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

61 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

62 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

63 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

64 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]

65 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]

66 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

67 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

68 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]

69 3_Numbers_v.1.0.esp

6A Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]

6B Auriel's_Retreat.esp [Version 1.1]

6C AyleidArrows.esp [Version 1.8]

6D Blissful_DreamsCOBL.esp

6E BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2]

6F BravilSeaDomes.esp

70 Abriael_Human.esp

71 GTAesgaard.esp

72 GTAesgaard_2.esp

73 Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0]

74 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.2]

75 Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

76 JQ-AssassinQuest.esp

77 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp

78 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp

79 300 White Stallion 4 - OOO.esp

7A Kragenirs_WhiteStallion_Compat.esp

7B Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

7C Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

++ Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

7D EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]

++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp

7E LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]

7F KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp

80 MountainShack.esp

81 MountainTower.esp [Version 6.0]

82 MetherlanceManor.esp [Version 2.0.1]

83 Anoicaar.esp

84 Nocturne.esp

85 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp

86 Return Of Shadows.esp [Version 1.03]

87 Rise Of A Samurai.esp

88 Ruins of Aeris Zul.esp

89 Servant of the Dawn.esp

8A SilentStonesCamp.esp

8B TempleOfZealotsV2.esp

8C thievery.esp

8D treasure maps v1.esp

8E Treasure Maps_Boethia's Burden.esp

8F Treasure Maps Meridias Womb.esp

90 WeaponsOfTheNine.esp [Version 2.2]

91 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

92 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

93 DLCfrostcrag.esp

94 Knights.esp

95 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

++ EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

96 Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]

97 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]

98 TOTF.esp

99 TOTF-EiAE Patch.esp

9A RTT.esp

9B RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp [Version 2.0]

9C The Lost Spires.esp

9D AFK_Weye.esp

9E Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp

9F Blood&Mud.esp

A0 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

A1 MannimarcoComplete.esp

A2 MannimarcoRevisited.esp

A3 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]

A4 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp

A5 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_GuardCOBL.esp

A6 BlackSoulGemAltar.esp

A7 BlackSoulGemAltarSIOnly.esp

A8 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

A9 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]

AA Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp

++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]

AB ElsweyrAnequina.esp

AC road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.3]

AD mythsandlegends.esp

AE Castle_Almgard-V2.esp

AF Okaritemple.esp

B0 Reaper's Tower V_1.esp

B1 bartholm.esp

B2 Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp [Version 1.1.0]

++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]

B3 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

B4 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

B5 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]

B6 Birthsigns Expanded.esp [Version 3.]

B7 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.1]

++ Essential_Trainers-8374.esp

B8 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

B9 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.1]

++ more books teach.esp

BA P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 4.20]

++ Short Grass V3.esp

BB Slof's Dogs.esp

BC Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp

BD Storms & Sound - Bartholm.esp

BE Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.esp

BF Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp

C0 Werewolf-Legends.esp

C1 Merchant_Tim.esp

C2 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

C3 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]

++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]

C4 LTDVampireOverhaul.esp

C5 JIM_Summon_Doppleganger.esp

C6 Smite of Order.esp

C7 TeachSpell.esp

C8 The Sixth Element.esp

C9 RefScope.esp [Version 1.3.0]

CA MofMagecraft1.7.esp

CB SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]

CC SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]

++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]

++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]

++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]

++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]

CD SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]

++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.86]

++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]

++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]

++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]

CE MidasSpells.esp

CF CandleNoMagicCapsV2.esp

D0 RenGuardOverhaul.esp

D1 RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

D2 SamVimes's Feint Death.esp

D3 Druid.esp

D4 TJBUniqueMagesStaffs.esp

D5 KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp

D6 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

D7 Pose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.esp [Version 1.1]

D8 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

D9 CM Partners.esp

DA CM Partners More NPCs.esp

DB AsharasCMBeasts.esp

DC DAAragorn.esp

DD BlackerrR's CM Partner.esp

DE BlackerrR's CM Partner Shivering Isles.esp

DF Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]

++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

E0 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

E1 MansionOfCyrodiil'sChampion.esp

++ fog.esp

++ Real Lava 1.3.esp

E2 ForgottenLandsOfDaedra.esp

E3 StokerWolff.esp

E4 Viconia.esp

** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp

E5 LandMagicPatch.esp

E6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

[eman5112]

Ok, I unchecked tamrieltravelersitemsnpc.esp, becuase it was in fact red in wry bash. Didn't seem to help in my loading though. Also, when I moved oblivion_defualt.ini (no oblivion.ini) to my desktop, the game didn't even load the betheseda logo, and OBMM would't boot. I had to move it back in.

 

BlackerrR, I was comparing our load orders, and I noticed, you don't have Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm or .esp. Is this not needed (and a potential problem?). Anyway, I changed my order to be as much like yours as possible, rebooted wry bash (Am I supposed to do anything with wry bash, or does it do it by itself?), and launched with OBSE, and still got a crash on bootup.

 

My new Load Order:

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp

Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

FineWeapons for OOO.esp

RustyItems for OOO.esp

Knights.esp

FCOM_Knights.esp

FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp

FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Tombstone Epitaphs.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-20.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Fonger]

rebooted wry bash (Am I supposed to do anything with wry bash, or does it do it by itself?)

you do need to rebuild the bashed patch

[eman5112]

How would I do that?

[Fonger]

How would I do that?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes4Mod:Wrye_Bash/Bashed_Patch

 

remember to right click on the patch (while inside wrye bash)

[eman5112]

Ok, I made all mods mergable, and rebuilt the patch (right click->rebuild patch->select all->rebuild), and still crashes before the bethesda logo. This is annoying. Am I supposed to be selective about which ones I bash? Sorry, this is real confusing for me.

[BlackerrR]

Did you read FCOM installation guide? Because it tells you how to rebuild patch. YOU MUST NOT touch Oblivion_default.ini, this should not be changed by any means. Have you deleted "OBLIVION.INI" (inside your /Documents and Settings/Your Account/My Games/Oblivion)? Please, if you've deleted or changed Oblivion_default.ini, you should reinstall, or if you have backup, copy to ......./Oblivion folder (where it's actually installed, not in My Documents). Read FCOM installation guide carefully, you will learn a lot of things you really should know. Some mods tend to change Oblivion.ini, so I HIGHLY recommend backup of file and deleting it. All settings will reset and game 'should' run fine.

 

Well, hope that works, and sorry for bad English. :rolleyes:

[eman5112]

The FCOM I downloaded didn't have a readme, but I found this guide that I followed.

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/924363-the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/48544847

 

I haven't changed or deleted oblivion_default.ini, I had just moved it, and put it back. I found oblivion.ini, moved it to my desktop, but the game still crashed. I think I'll uninstall, and try again. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for everyones help!