Snaggel Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm having quite a problem where if I don't install AND activate a certain mod (Realistic needs and diseases, RND), Skyrim will just CTD, no matter what I do Now, I'm an avid modder and I really liked using RND, until it bugged out for some reason, showing nothing but blank page in MCM options menu (it was still registered as a standalone mod). In addition, i think the sleep option is bugged since my character never seems to get tired, yet my status effects page indicates I have slight tiredness (no stat penalties). I really would like to replace RND but with my knowledge, it seems impossible Any tips would be appreciated I have up-to-date SKSE, SkyUi, NMM and I recently validated my files via Steam (no results). 250 hours put into game and this is the first time this is happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelka Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Sounds like you have another mod that requires RND, so when you remove RND you're missing a master, hence the CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojanni Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 You probably have other mods / patches installed that need RND as a master file. Run TES5Edit to check http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859/? When you can get into the game again - > save. Exit Skyrim, clean your save with this to get rid of RND scripts that are no longer needed: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggel Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Sounds like you have another mod that requires RND, so when you remove RND you're missing a master, hence the CTD.I know such conflict is possible, hence I tried disabling mods that might conflict I still have to see if the problem persists even if I have all of the mods disabled EDIT: ugh, I really would like to avoid overcomplicated things like TESV5 edit :pinch: Edited September 18, 2014 by Snaggel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Do you have a bashed patch? Or some other variety of merged patch? If so, did you rebuild it after removing RND? (else, it would still be dependent on it, and you get the missing master crash you are seeing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggel Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Do you have a bashed patch? Or some other variety of merged patch? If so, did you rebuild it after removing RND? (else, it would still be dependent on it, and you get the missing master crash you are seeing.)No, I do not use Wrye Bash (should I?) so I do not have merged patches, as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasmineMcCoy Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Poor Tes5Edit, why people don't like you? :'(On topic: if you load Wrye Bash it'll show you which plugins are missing masters, so it seems worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggel Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Poor Tes5Edit, why people don't like you? :'(On topic: if you load Wrye Bash it'll show you which plugins are missing masters, so it seems worth a try.Okay, any idea how to check missing masters/create repairing "patches" I just downloaded Wrye and I am completely lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasmineMcCoy Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Load Wrye Bash and go to the Mods tab. Mods have a "box" (sorry, can't remember the right term ><) near them. Green = all masters present and in right order. Orange = all masters present but in a different order. Red = at least one master file is missing, if this mod is checked game will crash at startup. Edited September 18, 2014 by JasmineMcCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggel Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 YES! Tracked faulty plugins, disabled them and now I can launch Skyrim without RND. I am not trusting it so I am completely uninstalling it and using alternative mod (iNeed is looking promising)I'll look for some newbie friendly guides around the interwebz to see what Wrye can actually do and how to effectively use it without screwing up your saves/installation Also, since I am also a newbie to Nexus, could someone tell me how to close this thread? Or if a mod sees this, lock it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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