Democrat Or Republican

[ResidentWeevil2077]

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say humans are inherently greedy, since I believe sometimes man can become greedy and selfish as a result of his surroundings. More specifically from the people he comes into contact with as he's growing up. It's becoming more and more prevalent today for someone to spend more time alone than with friends or family. For someone like me who physically needs to be around people, that truly is a disheartening and stark reality :unsure: ...

[ninja_lord666]

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say humans are inherently greedy, since I believe sometimes man can become greedy and selfish as a result of his surroundings...

 

That may be your opinion, but I disagree. I'm cynical by nature and I rarely, if ever, see the good side.

I know that I won't convince you that man is bad by nature and you can't convince me man is not bad by nature. So let us act mature and agree to disagree on this topic.

 

To get back on topic, There's not much else I can say: I think governments and political parties everywhere are corrupt and I won't support any of them.

[Peregrine]

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say humans are inherently greedy, since I believe sometimes man can become greedy and selfish as a result of his surroundings. More specifically from the people he comes into contact with as he's growing up.

 

Our entire understanding of human behavior disagrees with you. Millions of years of evolution have given us an inherent selfishness and desire to protect ourselves and our family. Social pressure and circumstances can do a bit to change the degree of selfishness or make a person put something else at a higher priority, but there's no way to eliminate it completely.

 

More importantly, there's no way to eliminate it from all of society. And that's the important factor in dealing with governments (communism, anarchy, etc, as the usual examples), it's not enough to get a few good people, you have to make everyone idealistic and selfless. Otherwise you just get the selfless and amoral people in power, and the idealistic masses just get screwed. So sure, remove all that corrupt and evil government and trust in human nature. Your enlightened anarchy won't last a week before you're right back where you started. Except instead of a paying taxes to the government, you'll just be paying them to the guy with the biggest gun.

 

The only way to change human nature is through absurdly advanced technology (see the Culture novels by Iain M. Banks) making scarcity obsolete. You won't really change human nature, but there won't be much reason to take something from another person when you can effortlessly have another one for yourself.

[KzinistZerg]

Man in inherently selfish. All the stuff we do is for our benefit. But like genes, sometimes the best way to help yourself is to help others... and sometimes the best way to to stab them in the back.

[justwantmusicbe]

Wow. Democrat or Republican?

 

What about the Green Party?

 

Thats what I am part of.

 

It doesn't matter if people were Democrats or Republicans, the corporations would still run the country.

 

I used to be a Republican, before I was enlightened by the teachings of Ralph Nader. I realize now that corporations to run the country, and its the people's country. The corporations are supposed to serve the people, not suck the blood from them.

 

His policies are the best, and he would win the election if people actually knew what they were.

 

www.votenader.org

 

Get rid of the corporate Two-Party system. Let the people have a voice.

[delphinus]

I'm not from usa, but i take the occasion to make this thread mine as well.

 

Italy is under elections right now, what will happen? Will this tired country choose for the "less worst" by voting for the democratic party, trying to keep the chance to fight corruption and condemned politicians through the civil actions of non-political movements and people like Beppe Grillo (take a look at his blog, there's an english version), or are we digging our grave right now by voting for Silvio "psiconano" Berlusconi again? (psiconano=psychodwarf)

 

Some good american journalists made a very explanatory service about Berlusconi. this service is called "Who is Silvio Berlusconi" take a look at it in youtube. Here in italy this service has been censored: Why? because journalists and tv are totally "sold" to the politicians, and there is NO freedom of press. in addition, we have more than 25 CONDEMNED (mostly for corruption, criminal associations and so on) politicians walking in our parliament freely.

 

Just to spread some informations about my beloved country, :thumbsup:

[Thanodai]

I'm moving to Canada... Clinton and Obama hate America and McCain is the Republican equivalent of Al Gore, dry and boring with no personality whatsoever.

 

-T-

[MalachiDelacot]

Neither Democrat or Republican. *I* want to run the country and straighten some things out.

[freddycashmercury]

I'm a Juris Naturalist. Or Libertarian, if you prefer.

[Lisnpuppy]

I am registered an independent at present. I often vote democrat but will often vote against the encumbant regardless of the challenger's party.

 

I personally believe that the party system is basically a flawed system. However I believe that the greatest "fix" for our current political system would be to revamp the allowed donations money for those running for office. I believe that (and I KNOW this will upset some people) each runner should be allowed X amount of tax dollars or time on TV and newpapers for advertising the campaign. THis would allow those with good experience and abilities, but without funds to run equally for office. It would also begin to get the cantidates out of the lobbiest pockets.

 

I undeestand that this concept has been practiced in some European countries. It isn't a complete fix but would help those with better qualifications but no money have a more equal chance to run for office.