BFG99 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm hoping someone on this forum may have some ideas for me!I run a highly modded, and highly optimized, copy of Oblivion on a decent graphics card (Nvidia Geforce 9600M GS). I get acceptable framerates, even while running Qarl's Texture Pack3 Redimized, Mart's Monster Mod, and other resource-hungry mods, much of the time. But the framerate does slow to a crawl under one situation: anytime I'm in a battle and a lot of magic effects are happening (such as when I'm hitting a Lich with Reflect and Absorb Magic), everything REALLY slows down. In fact, it seems like any of what I think are called "particle effects" really hurts my framerate. Any suggestions on how to improve my framerate or deal with this, other than the obvious removal of my mods? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizardmirth Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Assuming your "highly modded, and highly optimized" copy is legal, I'm not a streamline expert but have you tried the streamline mod? Also it could have something to do with ini file settings in some some situations, but again not my cup. Perhaps someone else can better help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG99 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Yep, it's totally legit! I have the GOTY edition on DVD. Thanks for the suggestion! You know, I tried Streamline 3.1 and it actually slowed the game down for me. No idea why. I'm using Stutter Remover now; I did try using both at the same time (setting Streamline to work inside of Stutter Remover as the Readme directed) but that didn't seem to help.Yeah, I'm guessing I need to tweak some ini settings somewhere but this is outside of my understanding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I think you can disable particle effects via the Bashed Patch. I am not sure about that, however. Please, post your load order - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=know_how_to#PostYourLoadOrder Streamline INI Tweaks - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=streamline_ini_setup Mod INI Tweaks - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=mod_ini_tweaks <-- still coming along, but has some information relevant to you OSR+Streamline situation Tuning Oblivion - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=tuning_oblivion Stabilization & Optimization Mods - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=stabilization_and_optimization_mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsarian Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Also do not forget OSR, Oblivion Stutter Remover, extremely handy for anyone that stutters here and there. Also, I experience combat lag a lot when I have my blood decals on, so I just turn them off and it helps a hell of a lot man. I also run a mod called No Refraction Spells. That helps a lot also with certain magic effects. Like for example if you start to lag once you throw a fire ball, then you install No Refraction Spells and throw that fireball again, you will not lag no where near as bad. The mod does not change the look of the spells by any means so you do not have to worry about bad magic looks. Here is the link: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php I hope it helps my friend. And by the way, Streamline actually made my FPS worse believe it or not. I do not know what the problem was. But now I have a new and improved machine. I hope some of this helped my friend. -Elsarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsarian Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Sorry about the link mess up. Here you go. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtudo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 It used to happend with my 9600GT, a mod that really helps is "Spells no lighting", here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6947 This WILL help you with combat FPS. I still use it with my new GTX285. Hope this helps. Xtudo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG99 Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 Thanks for all the help! I greatly appreciate it. I went through and did all the tweaking I could using the above guides for reference; I also lowered my resolution, and tried the "Spells No Lighting" mod but had trouble with it - random spell effect noises constantly were playing and random NPCs would keep appearing for just a split second on the road in front of me. The effects were rather difficult to describe honestly. I'll have to try the No Refraction Spells mod next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Thanks for all the help! I greatly appreciate it. I went through and did all the tweaking I could using the above guides for reference; I also lowered my resolution, and tried the "Spells No Lighting" mod but had trouble with it - random spell effect noises constantly were playing and random NPCs would keep appearing for just a split second on the road in front of me. The effects were rather difficult to describe honestly. I'll have to try the No Refraction Spells mod next.If you use Wrye Bash's Bashed Patch, the 'No Lights Flick' tweak, under Tweak Assorted, might help. There is a stand-alone mod that implements that modification, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG99 Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 If you use Wrye Bash's Bashed Patch, the 'No Lights Flick' tweak, under Tweak Assorted, might help. There is a stand-alone mod that implements that modification, I'm sure. I may end up having to try out Wrye Bash and OBMM before this is over, as your suggestion sounds like a pretty good alternative fix. I've managed to get away without using either one of them so far, despite having a large load list (below). I've mainly been using BOSS to help me get the order correct. Oblivion.esmAll Natural Base.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmEnhanced Daedric Invasion.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmBathingMod_Base.esmCM Partners.esmHrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - EW + NW + AWS.espNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.espSymphony of Violence.espMIS.espMIS New Sounds Optional Part.espAtmospheric Oblivion.espStorms & Sound.esp36Sermons-Miltiades.espAliveWaters.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espClocksOfCyrodiil.espCM_Better Wine.espCM_Better Wine_SI.espDaggerfallbooks.espDancer_Undress0_6-10194.espImprovedSigns.espMorrowindbooks.espOblivion Cats v0.2b.espP1DseeYouSleep.espRAEVWD Cities.espRAEVWD New Sheoth.espRAEVWD Imperial City.espReznod_Mannequin.espshiveringislesdoorusable.espLiving Economy.espLiving Economy - Items.espCutthroat Merchants.espmoDem's City Life.espPopulated Prisons.espMap Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espMart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espBook Jackets DLC.espGrimbotsSpellTomes.espMaleBodyReplacerV5Beta.espANBRobertsCupSizes.espBattlespire Books.espEthereal - Armor Imperial Legion Edition.espFineWeapons.espMithril and Orcish Weapon Sets by Ionis.espRustyItems.espRTFemaleReplacerV12.espTFF_Armor_Base.espTFF_Clothing_Base.espTFF_Clothing_SI.espAncientTowers.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espMart's Monster Mod.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.espMart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.espMart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.espBHC_Expanded.espJagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp300_White Stallion 4.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.espThermae.espArena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag.espKvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espBrumaMGRestored.espBrumaMGRestored-Frostcrag.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espMart's Monster Mod - Knights.espRTT.espThe Lost Spires.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.espEDI - Aggression Fix.espMedium_FPSFIX_Natural_Vegetation.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.espCliff_BetterLetters.espCliff_RiskyInnBeds.espDungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.espExterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.espKT_KhajEyeToggle.espSalmo The Baker v2.0.espScriptIcon_Replacer.espSlof's Dogs.espStorms & Sound - The Lost Spires.espBathingMod_Soap.espBathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.espBathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.espOWE&P.espRealisticFatigue.espRealisticHealth.espRealisticForceMedium.espRealisticMagicForceMedium.espWizard'sSpellBook.espEnchantmentRestore.espEnchantmentRestore_Wells.espStealthOverhaul.espkuerteeClothingMatters.espAdrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.espCombat Behavior 2.11b.espMarksman Velocity SI.espMart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.espCM Partners.espGet Wet.espBubbleFx.espVisually Enchanted Damage and Absorb with Particles.espVisually Enchanted Drains 1.espVisually Enchanted Fire 3.espVisually Enchanted Frost 1.espVisually Enchanted Shock 1.espVisually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.espkuerteeCleanUp.espFirstEditionGuidetotheEmpire.espWater Nymphs.espSIPalaceExpansion.espFemale Guards.espBFG's Enhanced Armory.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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