Goodbye Socialist Obamerica ... goodbye.

[kvnchrist]

Why is it to you unbelevable to you that I place a persons attitude, which they can control above those of others which they can't?

 

Governments have been exepting themselves from the reach of the laws they pass for ages, but you seem to concentrate on America as if we were the sole country who were guilty of this. Your opinion was about your take on American politics and where we, (cough, cough) stand on things. You ask me why I have an issue with your statement, it is because you conveniantly disreguard any other counrty, including your own.

 

I got so tired of the arogant shits down here, why should I not be just as tired of others beyond our borders. People act so proud of waving the flag just because they fell out of their mothers womb within Americas borders, when they wouldn't walk accross the street to help an elderly neighbor. This to me is false pride. I would rather help my neighbor and be proud to see him on his feet other than setting on my dead ass, talking about others and priding myself on not being them.

 

You comment on the way the media portreys us instead of how we are and If you'd take the time to actually live down here you would see that. It's the media and the politicans who are trying to place us in different groups. Many American's see through this and it is reflected in the ratings for news programs as well as the favorability of the president and the congress. Why do you think voter turnout was so low? We are all disgusted with both of these institutions and you are following their lead by commenting on this supposed Liberal/Conservtive pissing match.

 

As far as my comment on the midterms, I was talking about the previous topic which you left to come here from.

 

This stratching of other's backs for your own benefit I take it had it's Genesis within our borders and we have a monoply on this attitude I guess is what you are saying, since you are clearly concentrating on us. Sorry but I live by the idea of completeing the bussiness of my own and getting my country in order before turning my attention elsewhere. I prioritize things to what I can accomplish in order to privide a example for others. Simply snearing does nothing to help out anyone, which is to me countrproductive.

[HeyYou]

Congress has been doing the insider trading thing since Wall Street first got their start. That's nothing new. It's also nothing new that congress passes laws that make it 'legal' for them to do things that would put anyone else in prison, or exempt themselves even from enforcement of various laws/acts/bills they pass. Nor is it unheard of for them to pass legislation that restricts certain behaviors, only to later gut the previous legislation. None of this is new. None of it is a surprise. Washington is full of criminals and thieves. That's not news either. It's just gotten a lot worse in the last decade or so.

 

The whole system really needs an overhaul, but, that isn't going to happen short of overthrowing the current government. This is NOT the country our forefathers envisioned.

[kvnchrist]

I am getting tired of people not wishing to deal with the topic at hand trying to derail it by attacking somewhere else. It takes away from everything and leaves nothing in it's wake except bitterness. People have the right not to talk about something if they don't want to do so, but trying to deprive others of constructive conversation is just juvenile and trivial.

 

I know I've inadvertantly went off topic, but that's because I'm scatter brained. One thing drives out another, but you can usually follow a dirrect line of thought in my rantings.

[edgeburner]

 

Governments have been exepting themselves from the reach of the laws they pass for ages, but you seem to concentrate on America as if we were the sole country who were guilty of this. Your opinion was about your take on American politics and where we, (cough, cough) stand on things. You ask me why I have an issue with your statement, it is because you conveniantly disreguard any other counrty, including your own.

 

 

K.....you should be used to that by now. Anymore, i just shrug it off as little brother syndrome.....Kidding!

 

Human greed.....two simple words, two simple words that transcend government, race, religion, country, and anything else that involves the utterly fallible mammal known as man.

 

As far as nations go, don't judge 'em unless you have lived in them....The only real way to grasp the mindset of the inhabitants is to dwell amongst them.

 

 

[kvnchrist]

 

 

Governments have been exepting themselves from the reach of the laws they pass for ages, but you seem to concentrate on America as if we were the sole country who were guilty of this. Your opinion was about your take on American politics and where we, (cough, cough) stand on things. You ask me why I have an issue with your statement, it is because you conveniantly disreguard any other counrty, including your own.

 

 

K.....you should be used to that by now. Anymore, i just shrug it off as little brother syndrome.....Kidding!

 

Human greed.....two simple words, two simple words that transcend government, race, religion, country, and anything else that involves the utterly fallible mammal known as man.

 

As far as nations go, don't judge 'em unless you have lived in them....The only real way to grasp the mindset of the inhabitants is to dwell amongst them.

 

 

 

 

 

I sometimes have to reinterate the obvious, since there are so many people out the who disregaurd it when they are angered and want something to attack. I've found the best way to disarm a ticking time bomb is to remove the target instead of confronting the attacker.

 

As far as the Little Brother thing, I know you were kidding, but there are a lot of braindead morons in this country that are our worst representatives because they expect other countries to be America lite. America is just a blip in time for some of these countries and we could learn a lot from them. They might not have what we expect from here, but can we truly state that all things from here is beneficial to the world or even to us.

[edgeburner]

 

found the best way to disarm a ticking time bomb is to remove the target instead of confronting the attacker.

 

Interesting concept, sometimes it's more satisfying to chuck their ignorant bias right into their face though, :)

 

Nah....you're right, subtle manipulation is very useful at times.

 

Though I guess i'm old skool.....I don't judge any opinion by what nation the individual has endured, when it comes right down to it, in this day of internet connection and instant communications, I'm convinced that folks have more in common that most of them realize. Many of us use nations, religion, race, ect as a separation mechanism, even though all are basically good individuals and agree on most basic social concepts.

 

Some feel the need to be loud.....even if it's loud and wrong.

[kvnchrist]

 

 

found the best way to disarm a ticking time bomb is to remove the target instead of confronting the attacker.

 

Interesting concept, sometimes it's more satisfying to chuck their ignorant bias right into their face though, :smile:

 

Nah....you're right, subtle manipulation is very useful at times.

 

Though I guess i'm old skool.....I don't judge any opinion by what nation the individual has endured, when it comes right down to it, in this day of internet connection and instant communications, I'm convinced that folks have more in common that most of them realize. Many of us use nations, religion, race, ect as a separation mechanism, even though all are basically good individuals and agree on most basic social concepts.

 

Some feel the need to be loud.....even if it's loud and wrong.

 

 

 

I don't think it is an issue of being loud as an issue of being heard. I think we can relate that as well to those who try to blow us up. A person needs to be convenced that he is being heard to become satisfied that his message has been recieved. Knowing how well the media keeps up on things they would rather see as opposed to reality, I can see how such messages can be deluded or ignored in favor of a prefered narritive.

 

I'm not saying that everyone who has a dim veiw of America or the West wants to kill us, but they do grow frustrated by our indifference to things we help orchestrate.

 

As far as old school, I too am that but in the Liberal camp. I was liberal before liberal became cool and was higjacked by the new generation who has no idea what it is was to fight an uphill battle. They who have never had to fully debate issues that were looked down on by the populous and have no idea how extreamly important the power of free speach is. This is why there is such a desire to shout down the opposition and drive them from the field of debate. They know not what they do when they do this because today their voices are broadcast by the media.

 

They have no idea what will happen when the populous decides they have had enough dictated to them and pushes back. Once they are on the run and it's only a election away, if the right man gets in, since the left has so well burried themselves in their own selfindulgance, they will know how important it is. Being heard is esential and it is just as imperitive for those ontop the grant it to those below as it is to those below to have it.

 

You can't punish a person because he thinks the way he does. You can only deminish our society by preventing him from doing so.