flamenx01 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Last I checked, the thread started to become what people thought of the particular group rather than focusing on the discussion of the actual mod. As in actually providing ideas that could be incorporated into the mod or someone taking up the request. If you think it's something that really shouldn't be made, let the request be buried.No it did not. I provided suggestions on content, and in no way did I even begin to discuss peoples' opinions on the group. They did that themselves. It was closed because other people derailed the topic and turned it into a political and religious debate. Political and religious debate are not even allowed in the debating board because of the trouble they cause so the thread was closed before things got ugly. Since the request was not the issue you can request it again (though it may draw in the same trouble). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArekkusuStorm Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) No it did not. I provided suggestions on content, and in no way did I even begin to discuss peoples' opinions on the group.And that's a good thing! BUT. They did that themselves.This is exactly why. If you have one person contributing to the topic, great, but as soon as you have 5 other posts right after going off topic, THAT is when there's a problem. It really isn't your fault. Basically what Flamenx01 said. Edited November 10, 2014 by ArekkusuStorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Obviously this mod isn't going to happen so this will be my last post on the matter. Fallout 3/NV are two of the most graphically violent, and sensitive-content filled games I have ever played, which is partly what makes them so great. The freedom to be as evil and twisted as you can imagine, or as heroic and epic as you want is what makes these games so unique. There is every kind of gory, horrifying mod you can imagine for both games, that seems not to offend anyone, to the contrary; they are some of the most popular mods. So why then is it not okay to touch on a certain topic under the auspice that it *may* offend 'someone'? And even if it does, so what? Who cares? Should the artist not paint his vision for fear it will offend 'someone'? The writers of South Park got it right when they went through their own controversy with the drawing of the prophet Mohammed - "Either it's all OK, or none of it is." i dont wish to start the debate back up, but i can explain the issue. ISIS terrorist are currently a big real life issue unlike the other mods which are generally based on past issues. once the whole thing settles down with the ISIS terrorist in about five to ten years you can go ahead and ask for it and not expect a whole lot of backlash. sorta like how making jokes about 9/11 is still offensive today, its better to just avoid topics like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmyX Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) So let's be perfectly honest then, what is boils down to is 'You might piss off the muslims'. Of which i have absolutely no concern, in fact i hope it does offend someone. This is exactly what the issue was when South Park showed the prophet Mohammed: people all over the planet were furious, death threats, protests demanding execution and all that. You cannot draw a line in the sand as to what is offensive and what is not, and then censor based on that arbitrary line. *Especially* in a game like Fallout. Anyway, now im done. PEACE! Edited November 10, 2014 by Jimmy420X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayinNuthin Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 So let's be perfectly honest then, what is boils down to is 'You might piss off the muslims'. Of which i have absolutely no concern, in fact i hope it does offend someone. This is exactly what the issue was when South Park showed the prophet Mohammed: people all over the planet were furious, death threats, protests demanding execution and all that. You cannot draw a line in the sand as to what is offensive and what is not, and then censor based on that arbitrary line. *Especially* in a game like Fallout. Anyway, now im done. PEACE! No, it's down to some people value their opinions over common civility, the consensus (while the mod was actually being discussed) was that while no one would stop anyone else from making it, no one was very interested in doing it for you. Possibly because the whole terrorist thing is done to death in other games. You want to make the thing, go for it, and salaam alaikum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmyX Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 So let's be perfectly honest then, what is boils down to is 'You might piss off the muslims'. Of which i have absolutely no concern, in fact i hope it does offend someone. This is exactly what the issue was when South Park showed the prophet Mohammed: people all over the planet were furious, death threats, protests demanding execution and all that. You cannot draw a line in the sand as to what is offensive and what is not, and then censor based on that arbitrary line. *Especially* in a game like Fallout. Anyway, now im done. PEACE! No, it's down to some people value their opinions over common civility, the consensus (while the mod was actually being discussed) was that while no one would stop anyone else from making it, no one was very interested in doing it for you. Possibly because the whole terrorist thing is done to death in other games. You want to make the thing, go for it, and salaam alaikum. While no modders stepped forward in the short lifespan of the thread, there were some supportive responses. You have a good day, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Religious and political topics are just not allowed - the reason is based on past experience. This request was not even considered unreasonable at all by most ( not very likely to be done, but no more unreasonable than a lot of other requests.) But it did draw a lot of unreasonable comment that derailed it into a religious/political topic that was starting to become heated. A request had become so far off topic that it was now a debate or hate topic. So, closed with no penalty before penalties were needed. This is a gaming site. There are plenty of other sites where people can debate and scream at each other all they want - but we would like to keep the Nexus game oriented and civil. Banning is one way to stop incivility - not allowing discussion on certain topics another. No, I was not the one that removed it as I was not following that one just before it was removed. Now, lets close this one before it devolves into a debate on site policy. :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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