LE Back to the root - complete quest overhaul

[Reylegh]

Hi,

 

Maybe I am weak in searching, but I did not find anything that would actually be about this or do anything in that direction.

What I am talking about are questlines and guild ranks like in morrowind.

Do you remember how you had to advance in the mages guild or thiefs guild to get better quests and rewards? Or how you were getting higher ranks as a warrior or in the legion just to become a general yourself?

Well, that is what the quests are missing in skyrim in my opinion!

In skyrim you join the mages get one lesson, then find soemthing and you are already within the quests to become the new boss of the mages colleague...come one...get a proper rank as mage, make a lot of quests, and then you may aim to get the new boss - that's what I would like in every guild in skyrim.

 

*Ranks

*More quests and requests

*highest ranks need approval of 3 other members (so more NPCs needed)

*Hard quest or battle to get the highest rank in a guild

*everyone with lower rank will be helpfull for you as: supplier, follower, healer, teacher

*everyone with higher rank should be able to give quests or requests untill they get satisfied with your service, then they give you their approval to advance

*rewards are getting better from rank to rank - even some items, spellbooks, homes, armors with special enchantment?

 

Maybe it would be good to do something like this partially - each guild seperatelly

 

Thanks for at least reading, every comment is welcome

cheers

[Mattiewagg]

There re is a companions overhaul, and mlee is doing Vortex of Time as a WIP.

[BlakeDrapeta]

This would be good. A lot of the quest chains are short and poorly thought out.

If I could make a suggestion, if you do this, please fix the inconsistencies/pigeon holing in many of the faction quests. For example, that thieves guild quest where you have to sneak into goldenglow estate. They SPECIFICALLY say, "don't kill anyone," and, "don't kill the boss guy". You can do both without any repercussions. In this instance it would be cool if not being detected was an optional objective, while killing anyone will reduce your reward, and/or killing the boss guy will get rid of it entirely.

Another example is the quest where you sell your soul to Nocturnal, and they don't give you the option to turn her down. A lot of the quests and dialogue are riddled with crap like this.

[Reylegh]

This would be good. A lot of the quest chains are short and poorly thought out.

 

If I could make a suggestion, if you do this, please fix the inconsistencies/pigeon holing in many of the faction quests. For example, that thieves guild quest where you have to sneak into goldenglow estate. They SPECIFICALLY say, "don't kill anyone," and, "don't kill the boss guy". You can do both without any repercussions. In this instance it would be cool if not being detected was an optional objective, while killing anyone will reduce your reward, and/or killing the boss guy will get rid of it entirely.

 

Another example is the quest where you sell your soul to Nocturnal, and they don't give you the option to turn her down. A lot of the quests and dialogue are riddled with crap like this.

 

Yes, but I think that would be something to correct later on - like making the quests harder or with more reward options depending on how you performed it.

But first how to get attention of modders who actually could start this project. I completelly understand that this is a lot of work, so I will not be surprised if noone has the time for it. But if there would be a small chance that someone or some group want's to do it, that would be awesome.

[Reylegh]

There re is a companions overhaul, and mlee is doing Vortex of Time as a WIP.

yeah, but those don't really update the quests or make them more realistic, because in every job in skyrim you don't need to be member and get yourself promotions up to the top, you make a handfull of easy quests and take the lead of that organization, which is a bit sad. Don't you think?

[Boombro]

 

There re is a companions overhaul, and mlee is doing Vortex of Time as a WIP.

yeah, but those don't really update the quests or make them more realistic, because in every job in skyrim you don't need to be member and get yourself promotions up to the top, you make a handfull of easy quests and take the lead of that organization, which is a bit sad. Don't you think?

 

There already mods for the werewolves, TG and WH I think the DB ranking it a bit okay, because they don't stick to tradition.

[Reylegh]

 

 

There re is a companions overhaul, and mlee is doing Vortex of Time as a WIP.

yeah, but those don't really update the quests or make them more realistic, because in every job in skyrim you don't need to be member and get yourself promotions up to the top, you make a handfull of easy quests and take the lead of that organization, which is a bit sad. Don't you think?

 

There already mods for the werewolves, TG and WH I think the DB ranking it a bit okay, because they don't stick to tradition.

 

Yes, but on the other hand, how can a no name within a week skyrim time become the leader of the DB? It's not just about adding a few quests. It's a bit more about making them more complex and graduating. From easy demands to hirible hard quests till getting the title of guild master and what then? There must be something to do for the guild head aswell...