Fallout: New Vegas uses STEAM, but why...?

[KDStudios]

Oh my god that is outrageous! How can they do that to someone!

It's not even a multiplayer game and doesn't use any features that require to go online.

I expected better from them for that.

Looks like we have little choice in the matter...

 

Thanks for your support Bethesda and Obsidian...

 

There is no point at all in it besides validating your game, I mean, patches can be easily distributed on the Bethesda website.

 

Another thing for pirates to rub in our faces I guess.

[CommanderCrazy]

"Thanks for your support Bethesda and Obsidian..."

 

*Rolling on the floor, sarcastically laughing like a madman*

[Skotte]

A moderator at bethsoft forums just said "take your computer to a friend's house that has internet." There are no alternative methods at all.

 

Not exactly helpful. Looks like you've no legal option to play New Vegas.

 

Big thumbs down to Beth and Obsidian for that.

 

I agree, to be a Steamworks game, all versions that can go through Steam must. if Beth released a Mac version it too would have to go through Steam as well.

 

but at least Beth warned us. not all publishers do that

[evilneko]

So, it's all for a stinkin' label?

 

Now I really don't get it. Why can't they say screw the label and have a Steam version, and a Steam-free retail version? Especially when they're screwing approximately 30-25% of households out of the chance to play their game.

 

Granted, I've defended Steam in this thread, I've never once had a problem with it, but this I just don't get.

[Skotte]

So, it's all for a stinkin' label?

Yeppers

Now I really don't get it. Why can't they say screw the label and have a Steam version, and a Steam-free retail version? Especially when they're screwing approximately 30-25% of households out of the chance to play their game.

I think that would be the best option but if this article is accurate the incentive is strong for publishers -> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_245/7285-Steam-A-Monopoly-In-the-Making

Granted, I've defended Steam in this thread, I've never once had a problem with it, but this I just don't get.

 

Now you get it.

[Marthos]

Steams support section recommends that if you are having problems running "Steam" you should disable UAC and/or disable your Antivirus program.

 

WHAT ?

 

 

Any online retailer who provides software and recommends that wants a bullet, period.

 

 

I feel badly let down by Bethesda on this one and will not be purchasing any of their games that require Steam activation so they've just lost a customer.

 

I know I'm only one person and therein lies the problem, who gives a toss about one customer, or even a few customers, Steam doesn't, and it now seems that Bethesda doesn't either, shame on them.

 

Untill people vote with their feet, those same people will continue be walked on.

[CommanderCrazy]

I know. But what can be done? Steam is slowly killing the PC gaming industry.

[evilneko]

Standard troubleshooting procedure. I don't see the problem.

 

Disable AV -> Problem goes away -> Problem identified. Check AV settings and the vendor's site for potential solutions.

 

UAC, well.. if UAC's interfering with anything, better advice is to uninstall it, then reinstall it to a non-standard directory. You know, like we do with Fallout 3.

[Skotte]

I know. But what can be done? Steam is slowly killing the PC gaming industry.

 

I guess all we can do is chip at Steam's Midas-like image to show people the ugliness within then maybe people will start voting against Steam with their wallets.

 

though it still feels like Beth is giving us the "finger of meanness +1" (was playing a D&D game earlier)

[chronosmagus]

Personally I think Steam is a good platform, but that is mostly because of the simplicity to get all my games back after a format. For a modifiable game like Fallout I'd prefer a regular install combined with a copy of my last data folder with all the mods and such.

 

I have no experience with FO3 nor Oblivion on steam, but if there's simply a folder much like the current one on my PC that's fine by me. I doubt the DLC procedure could be worse than the current GfWL (which in the end you had to find on your PC and copy to files to your data folder).

 

Just to get this clear, what scenario should I think of?

 

1. Steam validates and downloads / install the game. You could manually start it without Steam by going to the installed folder.
   
2. Steam validates and downloads / install the game. You have to load up Steam and start it from there.
   

 

Also, are all the same features possible as now? Meaning tools such as Fallout Mod Manager, FOSE etc? If there's any protection on the executable file by steam that might be difficult, right?

 

Lastly, I cannot imagine anyone in this age to not have internet. It's needed for nearly everything now-a-days and the cheapest connection is probably like 10 dollar a month.. A constant required connection is mad, but a one-time activation over internet is more than fair.