ElricOfGrans Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I have just installed Origin of the Mages Guild (7.3) and cannot even get started: Oblivion crashes when trying to load my save. I get to the main menu file, but after hitting `Continue' I get a loading screen, the progress meter moves a smidgen and Oblivion crashes. I seem to be able to create a new game (at least, I can get to the face generation bit; I did not try further), but not continue my current save. My character is a member of the Mages Guild, but I am still in the very early stages of this quest line (and the readme says nothing about you needing a new character to play it). My save is in the Market District, so it could not be that I am loading in a changed cell. If I simply remove this mod (I made an OMOD for it), everything is fine. I use BOSS to set the load order, and I merge everything that is suggested to merge into the bashed patch. Here is my load order: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 ScreenEffects.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5] 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 05 MD_Saddle_Master.esm 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 07 Qarls_Harvest.esm 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 09 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 0A Better Cities Resources.esm 0B CURP_Controller.esm ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] 0C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.10] 0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 10 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30] ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp 11 Better Cities .esp 12 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 13 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 14 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 15 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 16 AmbientTownSounds.esp 17 MIS Low Wind.esp 18 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp 19 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp ++ Drum_Fix.esp 1A Storms & Sound.esp 1B LightsOut.esp 1C Cities Alive At Night.esp 1D WindowLightingSystem.esp 1E AliveWaters.esp 1F AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 20 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 21 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 22 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp 23 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp 24 Display Stats.esp [Version 1.2] 25 ImprovedSigns.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] 26 Musical Immersion 1.0.esp 27 P1DseeYouSleep.esp 28 Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0] 29 Qarls_Harvest.esp 2A Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.2] 2B RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5] ++ RealWalk.esp 2C Harvest[Containers].esp 2D FF_Real_Thirst.esp 2E Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.5.1] 2F Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5] 30 Book Jackets DLC.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp 31 tkRapiers.esp 32 TGND.esp 33 TGND_SI.esp 34 TGND_Corsets_of_the_Rose.esp 35 TGND Fantabulous Formal Dresses.esp 36 TGND_Lingerie_Underwear.esp 37 TGND_EY_Vampirehunter.esp 38 TGND - Sinblood's Fantasy Mage.esp 39 Ryk_AtholBrose.esp 3A Dude Wheres My Horse.esp 3B MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp ++ Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp 3C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp 3D Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp 3E Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp 3F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 40 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 41 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 42 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 43 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 44 Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 45 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 46 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 47 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 49 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Atmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.esp ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] 4A TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp 4B TamrielTransportationNetwork Vwalk.esp 4C EM_CompInnsleeping.esp 4D KvatchRising.esp 4E LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5] 4F The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2] 50 The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp 51 Knights.esp 52 Knights - Book Jackets.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 53 The Lost Spires.esp 54 The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp 55 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 7.3] 56 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.0.COBL] 57 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ++ ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp 58 ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 59 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 5A Walkabout.esp 5B road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.5] 5C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 5D LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 5E xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 5F xulTheHeath.esp 60 MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp 61 XulEntiusGorge.esp 62 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 63 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2] 64 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp 65 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 66 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] 67 xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp 68 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 69 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] 6A xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 6B Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp 6C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] 6D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] 6E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 6F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 70 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 71 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 72 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] 73 xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp 74 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp 75 xulPantherRiver.esp 76 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 77 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] 78 xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 79 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5] 7A xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp 7B xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4] 7C xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 7D xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] 7E xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 7F xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 80 xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp 81 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0] 82 NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1] 83 West Roads.esp 84 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 85 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp 86 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp 87 ImmersiveWait.esp 88 kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp 89 Leviathan Soulgems.esp 8A P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 8B PersuasionOverhaul.esp 8C kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp ++ Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp 8D Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp 8E Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp 8F Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp 90 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] 91 Quest Award Leveller.esp ++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp 92 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 93 RealisticFatigue.esp 94 RealisticHealth.esp 95 RealisticForceMedium.esp 96 RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp 97 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.4.2] 98 ConduitMagic.esp 99 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90] 9A SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] 9B SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83] 9C MidasSpells.esp 9D StealthOverhaul.esp 9E ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp 9F ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp A0 RenGuardOverhaul.esp A1 SM Hand Combat.esp [Version 1.0] ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86] A2 RealisticLeveling.esp A3 Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp A4 Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp A5 Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp A6 Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp A7 Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp A8 Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp A9 Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp AA Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Khajiit Fix.esp ** Better Redguard v2.esp AB Better Redguard v2 Vwalk.esp AC Ethereal - Eyes.esp AD 1em_Vilja.esp ++ 1em_Vilja MMM Fix.esp AE 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp AF Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] B0 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] B1 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] B2 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] B3 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] B4 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV] ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] B5 Better Cities Full.esp B6 Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp B7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp B8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp B9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp BA Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp BB Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp BC Better Imperial City.esp BD Better Imperial City Vwalk.esp BE Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp BF Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] C0 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp C1 MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp [Version 1.2] C2 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] C3 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp ++ Real Lava 1.3.esp C4 ScreenControls.esp C5 Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More Script.esp C6 Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More Script - CoBl.esp ++ Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More.esp ++ Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More - KD Circlets Loot Only patch.esp C7 MiniMap.esp C8 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1] ** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] C9 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] CA Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 A CTD most often happens, all else being in good order, when a master file is missing. Even if all of your currently installed mods have their master files, if your Bashed Patch is trying to include a previously installed master file that no longer exists, it will cause a CTD. Rebuild your patch and go through every single option and make sure that nothing is checked that you do not have currently installed, and that everything installed is checked -- make sure you have your Bash Tags (main menu of Wrye Bash) set to Automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElricOfGrans Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 I did rebuild the patch, immediately after installing OotMG. Wrye Bash is not reporting any mods with missing masters. Bash Tags are automatic (I have no idea what I am doing otherwise). Normally, that kind of crash happens when I launch OBSE, not when continuing a game, and should also prevent a new game from being created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodtortiose Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Origins of the mages guild 7.3 requires CURP, the Cyrodil Upgrade Resource Pack v2.2. Do you have that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElricOfGrans Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 Yes, you can see it in the modlist. Origins of the Mages Guild has the same requirements as Kvatch Rising, which is also in there (and working perfectly fine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBudreck Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 In a full FCOM installation there is a patch specifically for OMG. You have some portions of FCOM installed, so maybe you have happened upon the parts that need the patch... It's worth a try, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElricOfGrans Posted August 29, 2010 Author Share Posted August 29, 2010 Are you sure? I was looking around and could not find any reference to an FCOM patch on the website or in the readme. Perhaps that was an older version and it is now resolved in the core package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBudreck Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 FCOM_OMG.esp is an optional addon as part of the core package in the same way FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp., etc are otptional addons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElricOfGrans Posted August 29, 2010 Author Share Posted August 29, 2010 Is this a part of the FCOM package itself, rather than a part of OMG? Since I do not run FCOM, I do not have this to check. There is no such esp in with OMG/CURP/etc. I tried reinstalling Oblivion, then restoring my mods carefully. This resulted in no change in the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBudreck Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Bear in mind that this is just a wild guess on my part, something else you can try since nothing else so far has helped... FCOM_OMG.esp is part of the FCOM Core package, not OMG. It therefore may not be available separately. You probably need to download the entire FCOM Core package to find the one piece that you need. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12249 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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