Riprock Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 :) I learned my lesson long ago. About 30 minutes is the longest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7R Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I don't know on actual hours but a lvl 29 character is the farthest I have gone. No joke today I just beat for the first time the main story with my level 29 character ... yeah it took me several years but at last I can check off my list Skyrim main story not being completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambria Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well I've played around 1000 hours, and had 4 characters.So i guess that averages out to about 250 hours eachI've never had to abandon a game because of lag or save issues, I normally restart to try a new race or just to have a fresh start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisj Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Ok here is my load order with a bit of extra info. Any help would be nice. The LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function. Skyrim.esm CRC: C665FD56 Update.esm CRC: E5B67BDA C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit. Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp CRC: 23BBAC1C Version: 2.0.7 C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats Dawnguard.esm CRC: BD72CCF3 C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound Warning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit. Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp CRC: 2F92E911 Version: 2.0.7 C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats HearthFires.esm CRC: AF82CE6A C.Location, Graphics, Invent Warning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit. Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp CRC: 909C478E Version: 2.0.7 C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound Dragonborn.esm CRC: A9F83BFF C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names Warning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit. Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp CRC: 697829D7 Version: 2.0.7 C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats ApachiiHair.esm CRC: 783F7167 Version: 1.4 RaceCompatibility.esm CRC: D0528810 CRC: 93A7E8FE Version: 1.59b Version: 2.8.2 paradise_halls.esm CRC: E915D1AB CRC: B6F3D900 daymoyl.esm CRC: A38A90BC AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp CRC: FD7EE317 RaceMenu.esp CRC: 2765B7D0 Skyrim Radioactive.esp CRC: CAFD59AE Chesko_WearableLantern.esp CRC: 1537EE33 samuraiarmor.esp CRC: 2139F16A cbbecurvy.esp CRC: D596F02A navetsea female face preset.esp CRC: 90AB1D5F Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp CRC: 3FDF44A0 DCSorceress.esp CRC: 6FBCBDAC ISD_DragonspearCraft.esp CRC: 7F3BAD82 brawlbug-plugin.esp CRC: 55CC5C9F Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version, Brawl Bugs CE. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 674C05BC Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.esp CRC: 1BC4DC81 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp CRC: DFBF16B6 AncientTonguesSword.esp CRC: 79573950 DemonHunterArmor.esp CRC: 71333D88 Note: Be sure you have the correct version for the body type installed: DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE FS_SwordofTruth.esp CRC: 9E848E2 CRC: A611FB32 Azincourt.esp CRC: 4585F8B1 Brug Hild - Nordic Short Sword Skyrim.esp CRC: 987ADA43 FS_Skycutter.esp CRC: 77BEB2D8 SkyUI.esp CRC: 9330CAF7 Version: 4.1 purifier.esp CRC: 45BFD72B Better Dynamic Snow.esp CRC: 1A5860EB Version: 2.4 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp CRC: B4503AC0 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp CRC: 152A17E2 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp CRC: 4B399546 ISD_LongclawCraft.esp CRC: EAEF8CC FS_Ygrayne.esp CRC: F82DB7FF JaxonzMapMarkers.esp CRC: BC2CE71 kukriforegoer.esp CRC: E004F098 nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp CRC: 4E1D0A15 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp CRC: 910FBBF3 Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif. RaceMenuPlugin.esp CRC: 8A8A009F Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. Animated Dragon Wings.esp CRC: 785C2901 AdventurersAndTravelers.esp CRC: 5CCD69CC Rainbows.esp CRC: 547F5D56 Version: 1.05 Rebirth Monster.esp CRC: 3F7371A1 Delev, Relev 3DNPC.esp CRC: 548CAEA9 Version: 3.08 Better Vampires.esp CRC: C34D6885 Note: Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. Civil War Overhaul.esp CRC: 8A25BC5C Dead Body Collision.esp CRC: B8B71CA1 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp CRC: EBD99340 Devious Deviants.esp CRC: 81866F1F paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp CRC: 5C6CC2E4 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp CRC: B74B21DA Delev, Relev RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp CRC: 72A698CB RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp CRC: A554A56D RND_USKP-Patch.esp CRC: FE81BA78 Relev ScarletDawnArmor.esp CRC: 956EB846 Headtracking.esp CRC: 2856EB9F CRC: B06B7406 Inigo.esp CRC: 4321049D TST_Annerose.esp CRC: FAFC9ACD AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp CRC: D6C72A3C Run For Your Lives.esp CRC: B7BAFE68 Version: 2.0.3 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp CRC: AF536404 Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp CRC: 2B467F8C merchant gold.esp CRC: 5CB3A6B1 dragonslayer.esp CRC: 40FFB7C Deadpool.esp CRC: 5C3AB0DB Throthgar Follower.esp CRC: AC258FBB AK- Alternate Actors.esp CRC: 7D4298F5 Version: 1.2 Odvar.esp CRC: C52AC41B CompanionValfar.esp CRC: ECEAB86D Item Recycling.esp CRC: 88C00214 FNISspells.esp CRC: 4F3339DE Hell Sword.esp CRC: 2BAFA523 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp CRC: E3E62E4 RND_AnimalLoot.esp CRC: FE916A6E SofiaFollower.esp CRC: 115E875A CompanionArissa.esp CRC: 743C82B3 CRC: 93B34E56 paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp CRC: 7770F093 armored-horses.esp CRC: 3B1B7A1E inorra_3x.esp CRC: 7E3C1EB0 Convenient Horses.esp CRC: A2C92D5C Version: 14950 Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. CRC: 7DA00ABF Sneak Tools.esp CRC: B31E3105 DwemerAutoBlade.esp CRC: DC920971 Equipping Overhaul.esp CRC: A2313F69 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp CRC: E2DCB39A Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp CRC: 6C7B8C82 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp CRC: 669FBE3C Version: 4.9 Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp CRC: C923DEC UltimateCombat.esp CRC: F0BA7120 Unique Uniques.esp CRC: 51024687 Version: 1.8 Graphics Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp CRC: 6BC72812 vImmersiveBeds.esp CRC: 1162FF74 Version: 1.01 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp CRC: E866E37C My Home Is Your Home.esp CRC: DDC76932 Version: 1.21 Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit. huntcthulhu.esp CRC: 627BC7C1 theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp CRC: 5B9C3C9F Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit. Evil MasterMind Armor.esp CRC: 267E7FAB kisisa.esp CRC: F7F2F439 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp CRC: F8F3B96 Version: 2.5.3 C.Location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyNelly Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Okay, mate. The first thing I see is dirty plugins. You need to clean Update esm, and the DLCs (NOT SKYRIM ESM). You also have a few mods that need to be cleaned. Do you have TES5Edit? If not get it and clean them. Gopher has done a video on how to do this, here. Some of your mods I don't recognize, some I do but many of them seem to be armors and such. However, there are a few I recognize which are heavy and one that causes crazy issues. Player Headtracking, Paradise Halls and it's expansions, Realistic Needs, Civil War Overhaul, Alternate Actors, Enhanced Blood and Monster mod. Monster Mod can cause a lot of issues and instability, along with electric-slide and crucified animals. There may be more, but like I said I don't recognize some of the plugins. The main thing is you need to clean those dirty edits. In an un-modded Skyrim Bethesda's dirty plugins probably won't do anything. In modded Skyrim it will cripple you. Gopher explains it in his video. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisj Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Okay, mate. The first thing I see is dirty plugins. You need to clean Update esm, and the DLCs (NOT SKYRIM ESM). You also have a few mods that need to be cleaned. Do you have TES5Edit? If not get it and clean them. Gopher has done a video on how to do this, here. Some of your mods I don't recognize, some I do but many of them seem to be armors and such. However, there are a few I recognize which are heavy and one that causes crazy issues. Player Headtracking, Paradise Halls and it's expansions, Realistic Needs, Civil War Overhaul, Alternate Actors, Enhanced Blood and Monster mod. Monster Mod can cause a lot of issues and instability, along with electric-slide and crucified animals. There may be more, but like I said I don't recognize some of the plugins. The main thing is you need to clean those dirty edits. In an un-modded Skyrim Bethesda's dirty plugins probably won't do anything. In modded Skyrim it will cripple you. Gopher explains it in his video. :smile:Ok sweet thank you very much im going to look into all this info right now and see if it works. Which of those mods you listed are the worst of them? I never use Paradise Halls and never even notice any changes with CWO so I can take those out if the first method wont work but AA and realistic need are a must for me head tacking isn't 100% necessary but ill take it out if I must. But what ever you recommend ultimutly ill take out just to get the game running right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisj Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Ok here is my load order with a bit of extra info. Any help would be nice. The LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function.Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: E5B67BDAC.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevWarning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 23BBAC1CVersion: 2.0.7C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: BD72CCF3C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundWarning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: 2F92E911Version: 2.0.7C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsHearthFires.esmCRC: AF82CE6AC.Location, Graphics, InventWarning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: 909C478EVersion: 2.0.7C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundDragonborn.esmCRC: A9F83BFFC.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesWarning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: 697829D7Version: 2.0.7C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167Version: 1.4RaceCompatibility.esmCRC: D0528810CRC: 93A7E8FEVersion: 1.59bVersion: 2.8.2paradise_halls.esmCRC: E915D1ABCRC: B6F3D900daymoyl.esmCRC: A38A90BCAncientTonguesGreatSword.espCRC: FD7EE317RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0Skyrim Radioactive.espCRC: CAFD59AEChesko_WearableLantern.espCRC: 1537EE33samuraiarmor.espCRC: 2139F16Acbbecurvy.espCRC: D596F02Anavetsea female face preset.espCRC: 90AB1D5FImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.espCRC: 3FDF44A0DCSorceress.espCRC: 6FBCBDACISD_DragonspearCraft.espCRC: 7F3BAD82brawlbug-plugin.espCRC: 55CC5C9FNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version, Brawl Bugs CE.dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 674C05BCNote: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn.Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.espCRC: 1BC4DC81CrimsonTwilightArmor.espCRC: DFBF16B6AncientTonguesSword.espCRC: 79573950DemonHunterArmor.espCRC: 71333D88Note: Be sure you have the correct version for the body type installed: DIMONIZED UNP or CBBEFS_SwordofTruth.espCRC: 9E848E2CRC: A611FB32Azincourt.espCRC: 4585F8B1Brug Hild - Nordic Short Sword Skyrim.espCRC: 987ADA43FS_Skycutter.espCRC: 77BEB2D8SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1purifier.espCRC: 45BFD72BBetter Dynamic Snow.espCRC: 1A5860EBVersion: 2.4Improved Dragon Shouts.espCRC: B4503AC0Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.espCRC: 152A17E2Auto Unequip Ammo.espCRC: 4B399546ISD_LongclawCraft.espCRC: EAEF8CCFS_Ygrayne.espCRC: F82DB7FFJaxonzMapMarkers.espCRC: BC2CE71kukriforegoer.espCRC: E004F098nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 4E1D0A15dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espCRC: 910FBBF3Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009FNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.Animated Dragon Wings.espCRC: 785C2901AdventurersAndTravelers.espCRC: 5CCD69CCRainbows.espCRC: 547F5D56Version: 1.05Rebirth Monster.espCRC: 3F7371A1Delev, Relev3DNPC.espCRC: 548CAEA9Version: 3.08Better Vampires.espCRC: C34D6885Note: Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Civil War Overhaul.espCRC: 8A25BC5CDead Body Collision.espCRC: B8B71CA1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espCRC: EBD99340Devious Deviants.espCRC: 81866F1Fparadise_halls_farengars_study.espCRC: 5C6CC2E4RealisticNeedsandDiseases.espCRC: B74B21DADelev, RelevRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espCRC: 72A698CBRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espCRC: A554A56DRND_USKP-Patch.espCRC: FE81BA78RelevScarletDawnArmor.espCRC: 956EB846Headtracking.espCRC: 2856EB9FCRC: B06B7406Inigo.espCRC: 4321049DTST_Annerose.espCRC: FAFC9ACDAmazingFollowerTweaks.espCRC: D6C72A3CRun For Your Lives.espCRC: B7BAFE68Version: 2.0.3xazPrisonOverhaul.espCRC: AF536404Populated Cities Towns Villages.espCRC: 2B467F8Cmerchant gold.espCRC: 5CB3A6B1dragonslayer.espCRC: 40FFB7CDeadpool.espCRC: 5C3AB0DBThrothgar Follower.espCRC: AC258FBBAK- Alternate Actors.espCRC: 7D4298F5Version: 1.2Odvar.espCRC: C52AC41BCompanionValfar.espCRC: ECEAB86DItem Recycling.espCRC: 88C00214FNISspells.espCRC: 4F3339DEHell Sword.espCRC: 2BAFA523RND_HearthFires-Patch.espCRC: E3E62E4RND_AnimalLoot.espCRC: FE916A6ESofiaFollower.espCRC: 115E875ACompanionArissa.espCRC: 743C82B3CRC: 93B34E56paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.espCRC: 7770F093armored-horses.espCRC: 3B1B7A1Einorra_3x.espCRC: 7E3C1EB0Convenient Horses.espCRC: A2C92D5CVersion: 14950Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.CRC: 7DA00ABFSneak Tools.espCRC: B31E3105DwemerAutoBlade.espCRC: DC920971Equipping Overhaul.espCRC: A2313F69Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.espCRC: E2DCB39ASneak Tools Vanilla Masks.espCRC: 6C7B8C82SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.espCRC: 669FBE3CVersion: 4.9Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.espCRC: C923DECUltimateCombat.espCRC: F0BA7120Unique Uniques.espCRC: 51024687Version: 1.8GraphicsUpgraded Weapons and Armors.espCRC: 6BC72812vImmersiveBeds.espCRC: 1162FF74Version: 1.01vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espCRC: E866E37CMy Home Is Your Home.espCRC: DDC76932Version: 1.21Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.huntcthulhu.espCRC: 627BC7C1theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.espCRC: 5B9C3C9FWarning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.Evil MasterMind Armor.espCRC: 267E7FABkisisa.espCRC: F7F2F439Alternate Start - Live Another Life.espCRC: F8F3B96Version: 2.5.3C.Location Ok I just cleaned my skyrim using TES5edit and started up my character. I really can't tell to much but my Realistic needs said I was hungry so I tired eating and it didn't update any message then after about a minute it said i over eat probably the script catching up and registering all the food I ate. So my guess is that it did noting. I tried running loot right now and it said 3 warnings and 3 dirty plugins It says Dawnguard.esm Warning: Contains 6 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit. (which I did) My Home Is Your Home.esptheRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.espBoth saying "Warning: Contains 6 ITM records. Clean with" That is all the info I have so far. Honestly even at this point im scared of starting a new character and this just happening again. When I start a new save everything works just fine with no lag but maybe later it will act up again. Thank you for the help so far I really hope we can fix this it really sucks I haven't played skyrim in a few weeks. Edited December 2, 2014 by dennisj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 sheesh, my saves usually break around lvl 10 (or by the time i reach whiterun) it might not happen right away, but something around there totally blows up every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdesser Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I've got several 100h+ saves. But I think the oldest and longest save I've had is long gone (Shift + Del followed by "Oh crap!", when removing redundant saves), but the longest I still have is my Level 104 Female Nord Vampire with just over 150 hours. Currently sitting at 1200h+ total time played. I might still have it on an external HDD somewhere, now that I think about it. Been working on a new save for the past 2 days. One where I speed ran the main storylines of Skyrim, Dawnguard and Dragonborn with nothing script intensive installed, so that I can backup the hell out of it and then use it as a base for my other characters. I should have done this a long time ago to be honest. I also quite recently made a switch over to Mod Organizer, which I highly suggest! Took me almost a day to make my setup back together on it, but it's totally worth it. Now I can have different mod setups for different saves and don't have to worry about cluttering my Data folder or breaking saves. Follow Gopher's YouTube series and do the switch that way, just "play along" with the videos. Made the process very easy! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupdragon1234 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I'm still on the same one since I bought the game 14 months and 2000+ hours ago. I had to run it through a savegame script cleaner once as some weird stuff was happening trees floating in midair and the like which I put down to a badly uninstalled mod. Its been fine ever since. I'm more careful now especially with script heavy mods. If you're trying out mods and you don't like it revert to an earlier save after removing it, adding and removing mods on the same save is a really bad idea. I have so many mods though that it's become very specific to this machine if I try and use it on a different PC it'll crash very quickly. Which is one very good argument for keeping your game vanilla. Edited December 2, 2014 by soupdragon1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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