Save results in CTD

[fojlop]

I'm experiencing CTD's when I'm trying to Save. I'm not using autosave, since I know the consequences of it.

I have followed this guide and done exactly everything in exact order as he does it, though I've obviously made some adjustments since it's pretty outdated by now.

 

Please have a look at my load order and see if something looks messed up.

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

xCALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

StreetLights.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Vehicle Overhaul.esm

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp

playbackdelay_001.esp

Faster PipBoy Light.esp

Owned!.esp

Makes Sense Bounty Hunter 0.91.esp

xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp

xCALIBRmunitions.esp

xCALIBRmunitions_FOSEnhancements.esp

Fallin3 SouthEast Wasteland.esp

DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

Rivet_City_Security_1.1.esp

CrowdedCities_v2.esp

FEV_Subjects.esp

Responsive Kill Reactions.esp

FalloutFood.esp

I'll Touch What I Want.esp

TinCanCRAFTing.esp

richvendors.esp

Ex Libris - PreWar Book Titles.esp

SpeechLite.esp

Bigtown upgraded.esp

Rington Station Settlement 0.81.esp

rockville.esp

FLAK.esp

ShadySands.esp

MovinOnUp3.0.esp

PeachCreekRuins.esp

CanterburyCommonsInteriors.esp

Megaton Tweaks 1.28.esp

WastelandHomes.esp

GrayditchApartment.esp

Solace.esp

AbramsOverpassTent.esp

MegatonHouseExtraStorage.esp

SuperDuperBasement.esp

BlackWolf Backpack.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

Blank's Container Backpack (BlackWolf Backpack Plugin).esp

D.C. Confidential.esp

0rb_BookSet1.esp

0rb_ComicPack1.esp

BoSPatrols.esp

Glow Sticks.esp

CEI - CaesarrulezExcessiveInteriorsEN.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

FalloutFoods - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Dogmeat Leather Armor - CRAFT.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Merged Patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 109

Total plugins: 109

 

Cheers, thanks in advance

[nosisab]

Some time ago I read about that issue and it being caused by the Broken Steel DLC and related to the Unofficial patch. At that time some guy posted a patch to that unofficial patch to correct it but sadly it was a local solution (in another forum) and never included in the original one (I don't know if the file still exist anymore or where to find it).

 

That said, one attempt to solve the issue is installing that unofficial patch if it's not yet installed, or else, disabling it for a while to see if the problem is gone.

 

Recreating the merged patch may be a good idea, mainly if any change in the load order was done since its creation. Anyway, try recreating it encompassing only the mods that actually need it.

 

Good luck, please report the outcome.

[fojlop]

Is this the Unofficial Patch you're talking about?

 

How do I know which mods needs the merged patch?

[Quetzlsacatanango]

Run fo3edit master update. If you don't know how, instructions are on the fo3edit description page.

[fojlop]

And how do I change which mods I want to merge? Is it that first window that pops up where you can tick off mods?

[htomsirveauxjr]

Open the console and kill yourself. Worked for me when I could not save.

[fojlop]

Yeah, I've actually heard that should fix the problem. Please be a little more specific though; should I have the console open and just kill myself or should I write something in the console that kills me - if so, what do I write?

[roguim]

It's don't need to be with the console, simple remove any armor your char have and throws some grenades nears your char until it dies after waits to reloads. this will purge some animations and helps to clean your game, in this matter helps crash on save/load.

also did you run masterupdate? if not do this it's helps a lot in crashes on save issue

 

about the merged patch yes if you want to make for an specific mods select them in fo3edti ( only mark the ones you want) then create the patch.

personally i made one with all my mods select and lets fo3edit choose what mods will have the patch ( it's automatic so don't worry), but if you want to be specific i advice to select weapon mod kits (as the author strongly recommends to made a merged patch) xcalibr and FWE as this mods deal with leveled list so a merged patch could solve any conflict. (but i don't thing it's related to your problem but it might help)

[fojlop]

I've tried blowing myself up and letting the game reload a couple of times now with no success whatsoever. The game still crashes when I try to save.

I have also downloaded and installed UF3P and tried the same thing, crashed when saving too.

 

And yes, I've rebuilt my Merged patch everytime I make a change in my loadorder/install new mods/delete mods.

 

Another thing though, where is UF3P supposed to be in the loadorder? I have mine like this now:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

xCALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

StreetLights.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Vehicle Overhaul.esm

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

Fast_but_dramatic_VATS_0.9.esp

playbackdelay_001.esp

Faster PipBoy Light.esp

Owned!.esp

Makes Sense Bounty Hunter 0.91.esp

xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp

xCALIBRmunitions.esp

xCALIBRmunitions_FOSEnhancements.esp

Fallin3 SouthEast Wasteland.esp

DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

Rivet_City_Security_1.1.esp

CrowdedCities_v2.esp

FEV_Subjects.esp

Responsive Kill Reactions.esp

FalloutFood.esp

I'll Touch What I Want.esp

TinCanCRAFTing.esp

richvendors.esp

Ex Libris - PreWar Book Titles.esp

SpeechLite.esp

Bigtown upgraded.esp

Rington Station Settlement 0.81.esp

rockville.esp

FLAK.esp

ShadySands.esp

MovinOnUp3.0.esp

PeachCreekRuins.esp

CanterburyCommonsInteriors.esp

Megaton Tweaks 1.28.esp

WastelandHomes.esp

GrayditchApartment.esp

Solace.esp

AbramsOverpassTent.esp

MegatonHouseExtraStorageSG.esp

SuperDuperBasement.esp

BlackWolf Backpack.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

Blank's Container Backpack (BlackWolf Backpack Plugin).esp

D.C. Confidential.esp

0rb_BookSet1.esp

0rb_ComicPack1.esp

BoSPatrols.esp

Glow Sticks.esp

CEI - CaesarrulezExcessiveInteriorsEN.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

FalloutFoods - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Dogmeat Leather Armor - CRAFT.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Merged Patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 115

Total plugins: 115

[roguim]

The Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm should be the first esm after the fallout 3.esm and the DLCs

and the esps should be the first esps in your load order

 

And did you tried to run the masterupdate function of fo3edit?