Does anyone know how to make people not hate me?

[Madae]

Is victor important to the house missions? If not try console killing him. Click on him in console mode and type kill. If he is important try killing and resurrecting him. Sometimes that works on specific people, it doesnt work on factions though... I did killall in the Gamorah's and resurrected a guy, he started shooting.

 

Hmm, I will have to try that.

 

He's not important (yet), so much as he's guarding the door to House and is also the way I use to get up to talk to him, or go to my apartment. =/

[Kendo 2]

So remember in Megaton when you would steal something, the entire town would decide you were a terrorist and tear you to bits? Apparently i accidentally tried to go through a door in Gamorah and now the entire Casino wants me dead. I left and came back a few days later but they STILL SHOOT ME right after the entrance guy politely asks me for my guns! This is crap! How do I make them NOT try to kill me?

 

That is governed by the Track Crime box in the Faction Window.

 

Open the NV GECK (if it works today)

On the toolbar, go to Characters and the drop down will show a list. Click on Factions and find the Faction these Casino yahoos belong to. Uncheck Track Crime. Click okay. Save as an esp and name it whatever. Save again and Exit. Load the esp (if Steam will let you) and play the game. See what happens. Done deal.

 

Thank God for us evil FO3 modders.

[VergilPrime]

So remember in Megaton when you would steal something, the entire town would decide you were a terrorist and tear you to bits? Apparently i accidentally tried to go through a door in Gamorah and now the entire Casino wants me dead. I left and came back a few days later but they STILL SHOOT ME right after the entrance guy politely asks me for my guns! This is crap! How do I make them NOT try to kill me?

 

That is governed by the Track Crime box in the Faction Window.

 

Open the NV GECK (if it works today)

On the toolbar, go to Characters and the drop down will show a list. Click on Factions and find the Faction these Casino yahoos belong to. Uncheck Track Crime. Click okay. Save as an esp and name it whatever. Save again and Exit. Load the esp (if Steam will let you) and play the game. See what happens. Done deal.

 

Thank God for us evil FO3 modders.

 

YYyyyeeesssss I love you I love you im about to try that. I thought i might have to do some geck work at some point.

 

EDIT: Didn't worrrrrrrk. I walk in, they shoot at me. What faction are the Omerta Thugs? I unchecked Gomorrah Prostitues, Omerta Bosses, Omerta Allies, Omerta Faction and Omerta Traitors. I assume just Omerta Faction but.... well they still shootin at me.

[VergilPrime]

GOT ITTTTT! My puppie dog was in there and apparently still defending me up on the upper levels. I turned off their A.I. (TCAI) and pulled the puppy out, then a lil later I came back. This lead to the glitch where you freeze in the door and they wont ask for your weapons but I dont care cause I can enableplayercontrols. YAY! they dont wanna kill me! :3

 

FFFAAARRRKKKKK!!!! I left and came back in, they asked for my guns again and started shooting me. This makes me think its the script in which they take my stuff that actually sets them off. I dont know though, Kendo what do you think?

[cerebus23]

I've noticed this a few times in certain places, like I was wandering around inside a NCR base and went up to a door guarded by two guards and they all of a sudden opened up on me. Basically, there are certain places that NPC's apparently don't want you to go in unless you're part of their faction, otherwise they will attack you. It can be hard to know where these are, since when you're running around at full speed, you may not catch what the people were going to say to you when you got close enough. You pretty much have to reload your game and stay clear of that door unless you are part of their faction.

 

That fits what happened except the guard was talking about how I killed Benny like a year ago >.> and the door was just an express elevator. It just takes you from the suites to the main floor, theres nothing secret where it comes out. I cant go back now cause ive done a few hours of missions... There has to be a variable set that shows that the Gamorah sub-faction is hostile towards me. No one else on the strip. Does anyone know how to find a complete list of console commands? I bet theres one to reset the gamorah's hostility.

 

Oh, in that case, it could be similar to the problem I've having in my game. Victor was dead outside the 38, and if I go inside, he is hostile to me, and when he shoots, all the other Securitrons shoot (but they ain't hostile until Victor attacks). So I basically need a way to make Victor not hostile as well. That pretty much screws up my game progression since I was working with House.

 

 

That is a HUGE bug, victor will explode at some point outside the lucky 38, and then you cannot speak to him to gain entry, so when you skip that part when you enter the 38 they all shoot you on sight. Incidently if you do get inside the normal way at some point victor in the penthouse randomly explodes, but that one exploding does not effect the game in anyway since you can just use the elevator to get up and down, and it does not set anyone off to be aggro on you.

 

Only way i have found around the outside victor bug is to load an earlier save, some 9 hours earlier in my case, dunno if it is related but my victor went boom and i got the notification of the failing of the house always wins when i was doing the final room in the suicide vault where you get one of the components for the brotherhood, i had a save just before i did that room and soon as i started shooting the robots and junk in that room i got the fail notice, exited and went to vegas and victors corpse was outside the 38, reloaded that save and went straight to vegas and victor was fine i entered and noone was shooting at me.

 

Only way around that is go to vegas before victor goes booom and talk to him, so he opens the gates of the 38 for you and lets you in. Seems skrewing around too much and he will ruin your game for you, odd bug tho he seems to be the only securitron that has a habit of exploding on his own, and in his case it can fubar your game progression.

[Madae]

I actually fixed this in a file I recently uploaded. If you're having a problem with Victor suddenly turning hostile, you may want to try that. And yes, this was somehow involved with the "suicide room" at the bottom of one of the Vaults.

 

You can also respawn Victor outside the Lucky 38 by doing;

 

player.placeatme 00112073 1

[cerebus23]

still begs the question why does the suicide room kill victor 100 miles away, and why does victor kill himself upon one of your visits to the penthouse, and why none of the q&a testers at bethesda or obsidian catch this since it is a hard bug to miss.

[VergilPrime]

still begs the question why does the suicide room kill victor 100 miles away, and why does victor kill himself upon one of your visits to the penthouse, and why none of the q&a testers at bethesda or obsidian catch this since it is a hard bug to miss.

 

Remember that Victor is not a singular bot but an A.I. that goes from securitron to securitron. I tried talking to him before he reached his post next to the door only to find he had switched back to a normal securitron. Scared the crap outa me actually. That being said what the hell IS Victor? is he part of all the sucuritrons or just the 4 that become him. In that case is it a script problem seeing as it only happens when that particular bot is victor?

 

Anyways my problem is still here. I dont understand they arent mad at me in my current save, standing inside the casino, but if I leave through the front and come back in they go ape on me. Its not liked to the script as I managed to cheat my way past the script and they still shot me. What is going on? Please halp?

[VergilPrime]

Ok so I figure the problem is DEFINATLY with the "Gimme your weapons" script. I started using "movetoqt" to get in, but this time on my way out the doorman stopped me and then the shooting stopped. Im willing its got something to do with the option to say "skrew off im keeping my guns" which would trigger them attacking me....

[LeonardDeVir]

Console commands fresh out of the wiki, as it explains it better than me:

 

setreputation F X Y - Set player reputation with faction. (F = faction ID, X = 0/neg or 1/pos, Y = amount)

 

Faction IDs

 

-Boomers = FFAE8

 

-Brotherhood = 11E662

 

-Caesar's Legion = F43DD

 

-Followers (of the Apocalypse) = 124AD1

 

-Freeside = 129A7A

 

-Goodsprings = 104C22

 

-Great Khans = 11989B

 

-NCR = F43DE

 

-Novac = 129A79

 

-Powder Gangers = 1558E6

 

-Primm = F2406

 

-The Strip = 118F61

 

-White Glove Society = 116F16

 

This should work if your reputition with one faction causes them to be hostile. Your command should look like "setreputation factionID 1 1000" (<--may vary; I guess 1000 good rep should be enough). Try this; if it doesn't work I may have another command from Fallout 3.

 

@Vergil: interesting thought! I always thought Victor is just a fast-as-hell bot xD

Edited October 28, 2010 by Master Willard