Publishing Classified Information

[The1Doc]

on a lighter note, i think the ufo nuts might have a field day when those papers are released. lol im also a bit interested to see whats in them.

[marharth]

To whoever replied to my post about military law...

 

The Constitution goes above all other forms of law, if something in the military law counters that section in the Constitution, it is illegal and should be removed asap...

 

Note that I was only referring to people who said "OMFG IT R TREASON1!!"

 

Its not, the information can not help terrorists in any way...

 

Now if he publishes something big that puts lives at risk due to helping a terrorist group, then we can talk about treason.

 

If we are not sure if he is helping them or not, then we can't take action... Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around...

 

 

Now for the immoral part, I don't think it is immoral at all... People who do it, do it because they feel it will help. If someone put something out for the purpose of harming someone, then yes it is immoral... But if they do it for the better good I don't think it is.

 

Should the person who helped with leaking information be prosecuted? Yes. The punishment should vary depending on what the information is (I would prefer to not have a punishment at all, that's a long story though and it wouldn't fit it the current system so..). The worst possible punishment for leaking information with the intent to cause harm should be 10 years in federal prison. If you do it without the intent to cause harm the max time should be 5 years.

[phoneyLogic]

To whoever replied to my post about military law...

 

The Constitution goes above all other forms of law, if something in the military law counters that section in the Constitution, it is illegal and should be removed asap...

Soldiers are free of some constitutionaly granted rights. They have own rules regarding information. It would be a bad idea to mix those together. It could end up in a dictatorship :wink:

 

I think you only can argue with military laws as long it was military staff which gave away classified information.

 

But attacking civillians, threatening with retributions or similar actions is absolutely beyond everything what is legal and democratic.

Edited December 6, 2010 by tortured Tomato

[Harbringe]

But attacking civillians, threatening with retributions or similar actions is absolutely beyond everything what is legal and democratic.

 

 

State Department Threats

 

Strange the US Government thinks its very legal and democratic

Edited December 7, 2010 by Harbringe

[JimboUK]

Looks like Assange is finally going to speak to the police, I doubt he'll be leaving the country any time soon if at all.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/06/wikileaks-julian-assange-police

 

But attacking civillians, threatening with retributions or similar actions is absolutely beyond everything what is legal and democratic.

 

 

State Department Threats

 

Strange the US Government thinks its very legal and democratic

 

I read about that in The Guardian, it sounds more like China than the U.S.

[marharth]

To whoever replied to my post about military law...

 

The Constitution goes above all other forms of law, if something in the military law counters that section in the Constitution, it is illegal and should be removed asap...

Soldiers are free of some constitutionaly granted rights. They have own rules regarding information. It would be a bad idea to mix those together. It could end up in a dictatorship :wink:

 

I think you only can argue with military laws as long it was military staff which gave away classified information.

 

But attacking civillians, threatening with retributions or similar actions is absolutely beyond everything what is legal and democratic.

Soldiers are not free from the Constitutions law...

 

Every single law passed in the US HAS to follow the constitution, it doesn't matter if its military or not.

[phoneyLogic]

Soldiers are not free from the Constitutions law...

 

Every single law passed in the US HAS to follow the constitution, it doesn't matter if its military or not.

Dude, headed over your constitution and it apparently says no word about personel freedom, self-determination and things like granting personel integrity and so on. If you serve, you are usually forced to life in barraks, doing stuff which has been ordered and which you not agree, etc ppp.

 

Usually you can't force a civillian doing stuff like that. But since you constitution doesn't seem to say a word about it, it probably wouldn't violate it ... :unsure:

 

But as said, it just was a quick review though.

 

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Mr Anssange today just handovered himself to the british police.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world/europe/08assange.html?_r=1&ref=world

 

Strange thing though. Some say he had consensualy sex with one or two swedish woman but apparently without condom ... which was a serious violation of the swedish security interests. :laugh:

 

Now Anssange has been jailed, Mr Gates is happy and I wonder what's coming out of this condom affair. :ermm:

Edited December 7, 2010 by tortured Tomato

[Surenas]

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Now Anssange has been jailed, Mr Gates is happy and I wonder what's coming out of this condom affair. :ermm:

 

... the cognition that all you need to break the neck of a risky member of the brotherhood of man is a not that ugly gal or two and the old banana malfunction theme. Money can buy it. Mission accomplished.

 

http://www.abload.de/img/anne9hol.gif Uh-huh, oh yeah, uh-huh!

[Aurielius]

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Now Anssange has been jailed, Mr Gates is happy and I wonder what's coming out of this condom affair. :ermm:

 

... the cognition that all you need to break the neck of a risky member of the brotherhood of man is a not that ugly gal or two and the old banana malfunction theme. Money can buy it. Mission accomplished.

 

http://www.abload.de/img/anne9hol.gif Uh-huh, oh yeah, uh-huh!

My Sanskrit translator is malfunctioning would someone with grasp of lucid clear English prose care to translate this haiku ?

Edited December 8, 2010 by Aurielius

[Surenas]

Nice try.