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Found something: Remember someone mentioned that Chesko's fishing mod suddenly disappeared from the Steam Workshop? Here's a thread discussing it:

 

https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/611704730313333429/

 

Here is an image of Fore, creator of FNIS, giving his thoughts on the animations used in the mod:

 

http://i.imgur.com/DItmsFn.jpg

 

As before, I'm just relaying this information for the knowledge of all, and do not necessarily hold the opinions therein. If anyone can confirm that the imgur image is legit, let me know.

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marthgun Enthusiast

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and what about the nifskope team? without them getting custom assets into the game would be almost impossible without the injector that doesn't work nearly as well. They spent countless hours slaving away for free and people can go sell their armor mods for money.

disgusting.
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Wow indeed. Fore my man!
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Maybe they just dun goofed?

Or maybe they just rushed this out the door without proper preparation. Maybe we'll find out in the coming days.
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It seems, at least on the surface, that Valve doesn't want the negative press from being caught letting users upload and profit off of other's free content. It's sad they would ban a user with a legit claim... This reeks of manipulation by Valve.
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Signed.
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the lure?

Worst case scenario they want to shut down the nexus and sites like it through dmca or equivelant.

think about it, if a modder signs a contract giving beth and valve copywrite control over their mods for money, then what is stopping them from coming to the nexus to claim similar mods break those copywrite protections? And steam is allowing ANY mod to be sold. So what about tweaks or enb presets? This could be a nightmare
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...sounds like a good plot to a future motion picture.
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The user input that helped him add features or find bugs is also INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. He has NOT paid for these services, even though the Law requires that he does so, or informs people BEFORE they offer their input that he may exploit it for commercial gain without offering payment.

Here's how it works in the grown-up world of legally correct software houses. The people who find bugs are PAID employees. The people who make design effecting suggestions are PAIN employees. If the software house runs a forum where user input may be used to improve the product, the software house if legally obliged to state this in the terms and conditions of the forum.

Almost every significant mod on Nexus that has had more than one version has benefited from the unpaid input of those who used it and commented- and this was NOT a legal problem when future versions of the mod were to be offered for free.

I am NOT stating an opinion- I am stating a fact of LAW.

If Chesko wanted to make money from his modding, he should have created brand-new, clean-room mods that were 100% of his invention, or ownership if he started paying others for their assistance.

Too many here think that modders are somehow beyond the law, or operate in a universe where the law doesn't apply to them, simply because of the tradition of modding. Well guess what, people- when you chose to go 'commercial' , the rules change whether you like that or not.

And as with most things in life- the more complex and 'interesting' the mod, the more difficult the legal problems become.
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I think the best way community can support mods is respect and donations. Respect in the way of NEVER stealing resources and ideas from others, and donations (for those who agree to receive them, add a button) for mods to keep doing what the know to do best.

 

What Valve has got into here is a new low for them. In a way, it's like they forked Linux and start monetizing on the community's effort. It wasn't enough with all those Dota 2 aesthetics and cards... uff, I don't want to vent here.

 

In short, this is good idea gone horribly wrong. And yeah, who can withstand the will of the almighty troll Gaben? Hope he doesn't see Nexus as a legal threat next, or he'd be following MAFIAA's steps.

 

Peace to the Skyrim community, and to the modders who made this game live this long.

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