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Dark0ne is being played (giving him the benefit of the doubt).

 

Modders are being played and robbed (not just of money, but of their work).

 

And Bethesda is poisoning it's own well.

 

Please, everyone, don't feed this monster. Don't buy ANYTHING from Steam. Not just mods - ANYTHING. If you buy a game and discover that you "must" register it with Steam (like Skyrim) - don't. Download it from Pirate Bay or some similar site instead. That way you can get an actual clean copy - no Steam, and no other DRM viruses either. It's not piracy if you've paid for it.

 

No Steam. Not Ever.

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To clarify nexus standing (saw some confusion still)
- Valve is giving 5% of their cut to nexus - no strings attached - even if nexus became anti paid mods - this would still stand (if anything be happy that valve gains less and nexus gets free money ^^),
Its essentially Valve saying - you have done amazing work with the modding community - so here, take some donations from our cut by the authors that came from your site''

There is no actual issue at all with ''paid for mods''.
In fact i believe it is a great thing when its put out like that and in a perfect world it would be the best thing ever.
But as it is - its barely even released and like he said theres already been a takedown (maybe more by now?) for taking free content and uploading it as yours for money.
Tha,t i believe is one of the three biggest issues with this, and i'd like to see Valve and/or Beth. to take part in regulating the paid for mods, checking validity and so on together with the community. - because it will be a hefty workload and i feel its kinda low of them to simply push away the responsibility.

Another issue lies in the problem with patches, to the game and to the mods.
Your game runs perfect and its golden, then that 1 game patch makes half unplayable.
Then the few mods that play great, but one of them made a new feature that deleted made the other 2 stop working - now you could learn some basic modding and try and fix it yourself - but with money involved it might be a legal issue if you want to make a patch for it.
Then another thing that might happen would be - Paid for ''Mod A'' does one thing, then another guy makes another ''Mod B'' that does the exact same thing - but he created it from scratch - he didnt copy any of the assets or anything - how would that work then ?
And i wonder how long it takes until a website comes up with pirated ''paid mods'', and if skyrim cant run those mods - i wouldnt be suprised if a pirated skyrim surfaced that could (in which case no one gets anything at all)

The third, and my biggest issue with it, all the teamwork going on around here - people sharing assets freely leading to amazing work and growth, people linking to other great stuff freely and using other peoples items for things.
This could lead out and be nothing, would have to wait and see but my biggest fear is that people will become scared of sharing, and it will end up becoming more ''each and every modder for themselves''

Like people have said, the future is going to be a complete legal and sharing mess and it will be alot of pain, but i would say that paid mods is a great idea - IF and only IF - it gets handled in a good way. Which by my understanding of what ive read so far it wont be - but then how could you?
And i do think bethesda should put work into the game now to get better mod handling (ive got around 400 mods that im trying to get working together / merging because of that 250ish limit...)
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digitaltrucker you have captured my heart :)

Brilliant!
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In response to post #24673389. #24673869, #24673949, #24674134, #24674659, #24674689, #24674789, #24674949, #24675064, #24675239, #24675909, #24676019, #24676044, #24676314, #24676354, #24676424, #24676519, #24676714, #24678329, #24679484, #24679859, #24680099 are all replies on the same post.


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That's like Uncle Albert sinking every single ship he served on during The War.

That's....actually fairly alarming......
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So comply with our way or die. That mentality is why people like Dark0ne are forced to put up with Valve and Bethesda's bs.
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Funny video but Nexus is not the good guy in this situation. But if you want to say that they Knights represent the community in general I am ok with that. At least I can still laugh ;D

I'm so happy to see this because these kids today don't understand the real world and how the corporations are just waiting to pounce. Once they see that there is money in mods the sharks will come. The consequences and ramifications of this are going to ripple and it will take a few years but eveybody in the gaming business is watching what happens.

If we don't fight to stop this, if we don't organize then the, the corporations will steal this all. Once they do that, there will be nothing left.

Forget about a free CK in FO4 or the next Elder Scrolls game. You'll have to buy it or they licence it out for a large amount of money.

It is not just free mods that are at risk... it is free modding.

Dark0ne stands to make hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not close to a million each year) if Pay-for-Mods becomes big as it looks like it will. The new bread of modders are just rolling over and accepting this. SOPA will be next once the Corporations see how easy this take over was. 3-5 years and SOPA will be law. That is my prediction now.

As far as Dark0ne is concerned, I don't trust him at all. He pretends to try and pin Gaber down on the reddit thread but he himself refuses to make his own opinions clear.

I have to say that everyone should read the LEGENDARY MODDER "Emma's" post on Bethesda forum or you can read it on her website here;

http://emmates.proboards.com/thread/1705/regards-charging-mods?page=1#scrollTo=42265
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A "would you like to donate?" popup has already came up on my download page on a few mods today, that made me think about donating, which I did! If you put the idea into peoples heads they will do it.
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