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I hope they bring the Pay what you Want back properly.

As a default for everyone that enters a way for Valve to give them the money. They can keep the split the same if that's the standard. "It feels like they deserve more" is not enough argument for me to try and make a point on the specific numbers

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Im simply stating the fact it's very easy to play the "take your ball and go home " card when in fact you're keeping his ball
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I'll make a concession to start off. Yes, those a holes who terrorized some of the mod authors who decided to compensate off their mod should be tarred and feathered, in my opinion. I myself, had a ton of concerns about the implementation of the paid mods on Steam Workshop, but I never faulted anyone who tried it out. Hell, as a non mod author, it's hard for me to say I wouldn't of done the same.

 

However, for a small minority of mod authors (most of them have been absolutely superb), the hypocrisy has been pretty bad. For example, for the last four years or so, this community has been chugging a long. The mod authors I talked to usually would tell me that I could donate if I wanted to, but they never wanted me to feel as if I had too. They just really appreciated my endorsement and a kind word or two in the comments. Up until four days ago, no one here even though about the idea of paid mods.

 

Four days ago, this all changed. These four years that I thought I was participating in a community, apparently I've just been sucking the life out of some mod authors. I've (not particularly me but people who didn't feel the steam workshop rollout was good for the community) been called horrible names by some mod authors. Four years, not a peep. Four days, and apparently we're all self entitled little brats who did something horrible like download a mod a mod author provided.

 

tl;dr: You guys can't talk about those horrible people who left comments on steam and other places, but feel that just because you released some content, that you can be equally as bad and say horrible things about others.

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I had a tear, we are indeed a family, I love you guys.
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@phellen - I also agree but not with paid mods as I can't really afford to always be donating or paying, for modifications as my personal situation won't allow it.

Even if could afford to pay I wouldn't buy mods especially from companies which give a massive percentage to the themselves and an insignificant percentage in comparison the mod's creator. Though I would donate and depending on my current financial situation may do it regularly though likely it would be as a one off.

I need to watch my finances as currently I'm out of work following an accident in the past.

Though I have been around on the nexus for a long time most likely first join back during Fallout 3 and/or Oblivion based nexus generation. Later I added the Fallout New Vegas game followed by Skyrim. I have done some mods on Morrowind though not so many also was the victim during the tough growing times (when the site would crash regularly).

I even became a Premium member back when the site's Lifetime Membership was around the cost of a new video game (£30.00-£40.00) circa 2006-2009. Edited by MrGrymReaper
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With everything that has happened, the very thing you bring up has been on my mind also but in a different way. I'm a mod user, I've tried so many times to make a mod but my brain just can't wrap around that CK. I love what mod authors have brought to my gaming and many times in surprising ways. The problem is I have limited ways to give feedback to mod authors. I can hit the "Endorse" button and/or make a
post on the mod page that usually gets buried very quickly. Neither of these options is ideal for mod authors and users.

I think the Nexus needs to take some time and make the site more user friendly. Right now we have the Top 100 (useless, same mods forever), the hot files (highlights some popular new mods, but they are gone too quickly), and then files of the month (which is buried on the side of the page and not prominent). I think a couple of things can be done so more mods get some exposure and helps us the mod
users interact with you guys the makers.

One, add a review area to the mod pages. And I mean real reviews not just your mod is great or it sucks. Talk about technical stuff, if a quest mod how long did it take, if a texture pack did it look good, and so on. Also make it so we can follow reviewers. Say someone is really good and I can trust their feedback, I would love a way to follow their reviews.

Two, a mod spotlight. It can be an old mod, new one, big or small. Just something that is different, works and could be a good addition to someones game. This could definately highlight some lesser known or older mods that people never new existed.

Three, an area where mod users could upload their mod lists with notes on what kind of playthrough they are for and how well the mods work together and maybe installation notes if needed. Say I wanted a survivalist playthrough or maybe a hardcore your gonna die one or a very well put together texture overhaul. I mean how many times have you seen people say recommend me some mods, but its never that simple. This would definately give more exposure to more mod makers. Also it would give people a base to work from.

Four, Make the files of the month more prominent. There usually is a mix of different mods that people are voting for and it deserves some better screen real
estate.

There are probably many more, these are just the ones I could think of right now. I don't know if any of this is doable or not. But I do know as a mod user, it is frustrating right now trying to give proper feedback. I will say mod makers and mod users should always try to show respect for each other. I told my children when they started using the internet. Remember, the written word doesn't show your face and emotion when you are talking to someone. If you are upset or angry or frustrated, go ahead and type what you want, but don't hit the send button. Walk away for 5 minutes, cool off, think. Then come back read what you wrote and if it doesn't sound right, delete it or rewrite your point in a much calmer way. Communication is not easy to do right, so taking a little time will benefit all in the end. Edited by myrrdin35
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Seeing those comments calling the mod authors stupid for trying to sell their mods irritates me, highly. Why should they feel stupid? For wanting to get payed for their work? This may not have worked out, for now, but maybe they will bring it back in a future endeavor to give mod authors a chance to do this for a living. I'm sure that many of them would love to be able to say "I make mods for Bethesda, and I only make the mods I want to make." That's a great statement to make and who knows? Maybe it will happen one day. I'd love to hear what else you have to say about the subject, Robin, but I also understand that this is better left in the past.
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I am all for a free modding culture, but all this contradiction and widely opposed opinion has made me chose to do something I have avoided on financial grounds for 6 years on the Nexus.

I am putting my hand in my pocket and going PREMIUM. Anyone that relies on the Nexus for their enjoyment should think about doing the same PLUS donating to their favourite modders once in a while.If you can afford a gaming computer then you can afford a subscription.

 

It reminds me of Free? Antivirus packages that install PUP's. I PAY for mine (Emsisoft's amazing software). 35 years of computing has taught me who the villains are. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

One huge reason Steam is so popular with Game Publishers is it is an effective way to combat piracy. Anyone who has pirated a game only has themselves to blame. Many PC game consumers (thieves) got greedy and now the honest ones amongst us have to pay the price. Bethesda and Valve have honorably chosen to back down, but rest assured this is a taste of what is to come

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Many of these DL's are from several countries and more than likely do not speak/read English. I've done this in the past with a Russian modding site, not able to understand a word of it, managing to obtain the mods :\
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In my opinion its laziness or just not understanding what the endorsement button means. Many people think that it wont change anything if the endorse or leave a comment but I recently uploaded my first mod and for me each endorsment or feedback which my mod gets is a signal that people are liking my mod and that I should keep up my work. Plus all feedbacks (negative and positive) are helping me to work on my mod.

I wont say that I am always leaving a comment or endorsing a file but I really try to make the authors understand that their mods are good if I enjoyed them or point out bugs and issues if there were some. I have played 34 mods until now and endorsed 26 of them. And I have to agree with others about not endorsing downloaded mods because I haven't tried them. Right now I have 45 mods on my list which I have to play.

Well... to make it short. You wont overstrain yourself by clicking on the endorsement button or writing a small comment and the author will most likely appreciate your feedback.
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