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That's the best I came up with. The psychology that's been prevalent was "I wasn't really interested/didn't have the time anymore until..." Yeah, until the gleam of valve's silver set their eyes a-sparkle. I've been saying it for two days now: If your life's priorities are carrying you away from the game, go. We'll miss you, but there will be others. Making room for new talent is a good thing anyways. Don't sit here claiming that modding's costing you income or whatever. That's an addiction, and it's unhealthy. I don't feel a lick of guilt if your destroying your own life over a recreation. FIX your priorities.

If you feel your skills are too highly-prized to make mods for the joy of it, if you NEED money to justify it, MAKE A GAME. OWN your IP and I hope you make a godzillion steambux from it!

Modding will always be at its best when the only controls in place are the reckless joy of bending a game beyond its intended function, and sharing in that joy with others who enjoy it too.

EDIT: Also, "entitlement" " deserves" and "work" should be filterable terms. Both sides have been misappropriating language to debate this mess and it's kind of ridiculous. Edited by Brasscatcher
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People working in the studio love game. But the companies, they don't, they love your money.
And I have to remind you that selling an independent product is ok, but you cannot cut a part from a system and sell it. I believe that you and many many people on nexus had spent a lot of time to make more than 50 mods work together and not f**k your game up. I totally agree that a modder should be reward for his/her work, but selling a mod without any assurance that it will work well with your (modded) game is wrong.
Beth did a good work when they release Skyrim, but not good enough to charge people more. Skyrim is incomplete, I wonder if any of us could play Skyrim again excitedly with no mod installed. So my opinion is no to paid mod, especially when our money fall into the company account while they have nothing to do with the mods.
(sorry for my bad English) Edited by rekkhan
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@ foster

Your one hundred percent correct, I was over zealous and jumped the gun a bit there. unfortunately everyone who weighs in on this matter declares themselves a modder.

@ Korodic

apologies
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Here's another thought.

If you want to get more donations for your mods, perhaps you need to step up your game and actually make mods that are worth donating for.

I appreciate your talent. But I'm not paying for an apple retexture, or an unsupported mod full of bugs, or a mod that's still in development, or a mod that overreaches the parameters of the game engine and corrupts saves with bloat.

And I'm certainly not paying for mods from self-entitled whiners who somehow think I owe them a living. I owe you nothing. And you know what? I don't have to use your mods even if they're free, either.

so get. off. your. high. horse.
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Amen!
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Nock to Tip
True Bound armors
Knocked up
Fat Bastards
Fully animated meals and potions
Baby Mommas

None of these are apple retextures, and if they're not worth your time
feel free to skip, but you should not be allowed to tell others it's not worth theres
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Thank you Bethesda & Valve!!

 

*Citizen Kane clapping Gif*

 

After the Paid Mod Workshop opened, it called into question whether I would actually be buying the Bethesda game(Fallout 4 or TES VI) we're sure to hear about at Bethesda's first ever E3 press conference. I was so dissatisfied with Paid mod system and by extension the potential idea of mod distribution for Bethesda's next game becoming completely exclusive to Steam Workshop that I was going to pass entirely on Fallout 4/Elder Scrolls 6. I even planned to build a gaming rig specifically for FO4/TESVI. I've needed a new gaming rig for 2 years, but I've held off just so it'll be totally ideal for the next Bethesda game.

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You could argue it is equally as greedy for people wanting these mods always for free. In fact it is not even equal. The big mods like Isoku's, Chesko's and the like still had their current versions on the nexus for free which were awesome mods, now just because they then released new "paid" versions in which they hoped to get some investment from it. Maybe they thought it would allow them to mod for a living, allowing them to make bigger better mods in the future. Truth of the matter is they have already given a lot to the community and thus they are way less greedy than the lot of you who are accusing them of being so and outright saying you will not support the monetization of quality mods.

Simply put if people do not want to pay for mods that is fine, do not get the paid versions, however then trying to make the authors look bad just because their new version is not free is downright stupid and even more greedy.

Phantompally you are right in that with free mods, modders don't owe you anything however I would say users owe the modder appreciation for even the fact they chose to share it even if you don't like it.

That is my take on it, hate me if you will.
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@phantompally76
Very well said. I too have noticed this behavior by mod authors more than one time and I thought that they should be ashamed of themselves. Who are they, to treat people like that? They are making mods, they are no gods!
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I'm really glad that this whole situation is over, at least for now anyway. I was seriously starting to get worried about this whole situation because I was planning to use this summer to go back and play Skyrim with the brand new gaming PC I am getting. Maybe if I have any extra cash left after dealing with all the other expenses I have with getting a new PC I'll throw some money at some of my favorite Skyrim mods.
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