Something that i see happening over and over

[Marthos]

I enjoy a drink and being "merry" is rather pleasant, but I dont enjoy being drunk, and I dont appreciate the company of drunks either.

 

Why some people think being hammered and off their faces means they had a good night out I'll never know, thankfully.

 

The reality of being a drunken arse means that the only thing that other people want is to be as far away from you as possible, and that aint exactly what I'd call socialising.

 

 

Theres nothing wrong with having a drink, its knowing when to shove a kebab in your face and head for your bed that matters.

[TheCalliton]

we need pushkatu to get in this thread :D

[HellsMaster]

please dont -.-

[WizardOfAtlantis]

Substance use versus substance abuse is a difficult topic for most people. Most people, I don't think, can distinguish very well one from the other. I don't even know how many people bring that issue up to themselves, distinguishing that is, unless they're really in trouble or on a crusade. Responsible use (of anything, guns, games, or other sultry vices) is a dangerous topic, and I will only say this in terms of "sweeping generalisations": Amsterdam is by far one of the most beautiful, clean, polite, and orderly cities I have ever visited. I fell absolutely in love with it.

 

Control is the key, and how many people are in control of themselves, really?

 

That said, this old shaman doesn't indulge in much of anything himself these days and does his mind-work the hard way, although I do sometimes like a Guinness when I watch the All Blacks play!

Edited January 12, 2011 by WizardOfAtlantis

[brokenergy]

Brokenergy, about the education bit, the thing is people dont educate them. As far as i know most people i know started drinking in high school, around 14 and below, at the age of 16 they already alcoholic. The question is, where are the parents? Its the job of the parents to EDUCATE their child about all this stuff but NO, you know what there parent says? they ask," hey i am going shopping what alcohol do you want?" At the age of 17 they cant live anymore without alchol and thats when i hear: "Oh i dont really feel like it but i am getting drunk tonight" or "i am going with my mates to get pissed".

And then, call me anti-social if you will, i get calls from friends saying all kind of weird stuff in slurry voices after a "night-out" at the pub, when i see them again i ask them to delete my number from their phone.

 

The government here doesn't give a good goddamn about the over-alcoholic populace, it keep the mobs under control, the peoples mind away from what actually happening while they completely trash the economy system and do whatever they please.

 

We have alcohol education classes when I was at school. Safe parties, how much can you drink that is safe, drink driving etc. Like I said before, it's too engrained in the culture to do anything about it, education is the only key. In Aus, education is used but people still drink till they can't see the difference between a man with long hair and a woman. In order to change you basiclly need to change the culture your in but that takes years if not decades. I'm afraid we are stuck like this for a while.

[WizardOfAtlantis]

In order to change you basiclly need to change the culture your in but that takes years if not decades. I'm afraid we are stuck like this for a while.

 

 

Spot on. Our Western culture puts so much emphasis on glitz and glam that it's become hollow, and I think people reflect this becoming hollow themselves. And people realize when they're hollow, perhaps not consciously, but regardless then there is low self-esteem, no respect for self or others, and things spiral out of control. It all starts with the Self.

 

 

[Deleted54170User]

I removed what I wrote, so I could re-read it before I post. As I think I may have already brought everyone down enough for one year.

[HellsMaster]

If its not bad enough that most people in my class drink, the only guy who doesn't is being talked into it every single free minute in college.

 

First time i witness peer pressure with my own eyes. They keep telling him to come get wasted and pissed with them, that it was fun vomiting and fighting each other for the toilets. That guy is the ONLY one who doesn't drink or get drunk, and each time they got spare moment they hammer his brain in about coming and drinking with them.

 

So of course i open my big ****ing mouth and tell them to stop, that he has a brain of his own, and that if he doesn't like something its not good forcing him. That's when they say i am too "Mature" and "Not Fun" and "Unsociable".. So i tell them they are idiots, that they are alcholic and are not satisfied having their life ruined they want to bring him down with them. So most of the time when i get home i feel depressed and think FTL.

Edited January 13, 2011 by HellsMaster

[WizardOfAtlantis]

If its not bad enough that most people in my class drink, the only guy who doesn't is being talked into it every single free minute in college.

 

First time i witness peer pressure with my own eyes. They keep telling him to come get wasted and pissed with them, that it was fun vomiting and fighting each other for the toilets. That guy is the ONLY one who doesn't drink or get drunk, and each time they got spare moment they hammer his brain in about coming and drinking with them.

 

So of course i open my big ****ing mouth and tell them to stop, that he has a brain of his own, and that if he doesn't like something its not good forcing him. That's when they say i am too "Mature" and "Not Fun" and "Unsociable".. So i tell them they are idiots, that they are alcholic and are not satisfied having their life ruined they want to bring him down with them. So most of the time when i get home i feel depressed and think FTL.

You did well to do what you did, all except for going home and feeling depressed. You have to keep your spirits up, your vibrations high, and not let them take you down. Feel good instead that you stood up for individuality and personal choice. Individuation is the name of the life-game, and peer pressure can be pretty much summed up as if you're looking at a bunch of monkeys hanging out in a tree. According to them, that's the best thing in the world, hangin' out in the tree and flinging crap at each other, but somebody's got to get down from that tree and start walking on his own two feet or else the race (the human one) isn't going anywhere...and it didn't until one of those monkeys did.

 

So, feel good that you stand up for other monkeys and point them in the right direction, especially when they're too stupid to understand where you're coming from. That's exactly when they need to hear what they don't want to. That's the moment. Sure, it probably won't change them. In the end, that's up to them. There are still a lot of monkeys around in the trees...and driving cars and working jobs...but all you can do is point. They have to get there on their own. That said, people can be swayed, one way or the other when they're sitting on the fence, so it's a good thing that there was another opinion told for that one guy you're talking about. The difference between 1 and 2 in the perception game is everything.

[Deleted54170User]

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So Space Traveler's must go, and leave the rest behind, those who chose the simple life of living off of what remains the same. :nuke:

 

Dream on. Just don't ask me to eat that pill, :sick: smoke that joke, :sick: drink your swill, :sick: or talk that talk you seem too thrilled about, :woot: and we will get along fine. Or I will say, to you who-ever, politely and soft, "Dream on!" :blink: "

 

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