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I love Skyrim to death, but this constant crashing is driving me insane. I've spent countless amounts of hours (Read: years) following innumerable "how to guides" from Gamer poets to step to random shady internet article and I can't get it right. I wouldn't say I'm the most disciplined modder, but as of late, I've been forcing my self to read the fine print and follow directions.

It's so bad that I haven't beaten Alduin or the Civil war questline yet.

I have a pretty decent rig:

Windows 7
AMD FX 9590 eight-core processor -Brand newish
16 gigs of DRR3 ram
Nvidia Geforce GTX 770 - Brand newish
2 solid state drives
750 watt power supply -Brand newish

I also use every popular tool such Wyre Bash, TES5Edit, Loot, Texture Optimizer NMM (Mod Manager is okay.. but I prefer NMM) I have two different types of save cleaners "Save Tool" and "PDT Wrapper". I use ENBoost, and a ENB Injector but I don't use any ENB atm. I use SweetFX instead.

I also tried "Razer" which optimizes gameplay, but when my problems persisted.. I just went and bought AVG Tuneup again.

If It were just crashing, I probably wouldn't *censored* about it, but as of late, I've been hit with the infamous Black and purple/pink texture bug. I can't play for more than 5 minutes without it ruining the game for me, eventually leading to a crash.

Any help would be immensely appreciated in this time of extreme frustration. I recently put this together from scratch following parts of the Realvision guide, and a bunch of other mods I've dabbled with over time that I really, really, REALLY don't want to let go but probably should *cough* "throwing weapons redux" *cough*

Anyway, this is how Wrye Bash reads my load order...

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I try to adhere to the instructions of each mod mod author, what with load order and what's incompatible with what.. and what not. It's the reason I recently got rid of Dual Sheath Redux. Two daggers on the hip are cool.. but Equipping Overhaul doesn't think so... though It totally worked for me without much of a hitch (Not the alpha btw)


I try not to use many .INI tweaks because, duh.. and I don't think there is a problem here:

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Skyrimpref.ini (mostly untouched, because, a dur)


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My ENBlocal.ini reads:

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I'm not even sure if this ini is even helping. Some guide I read told me to download ENBoost even if I don't use a ENB preset. But anyway, just to review my woes, I'm having tons of black and purple textures appear on seemingly random meshes (armors, weapons, floors, trees, my character etc..) and I'm crashing every ten minutes.

I'm not gonna paste my papyrus log because at this point, if anyone has read this far, you probably won't read that s***. so I'll just put it in an attachment. Thanks all.

 

 

EDIT: here's my latest log on a new save. It crashed shortly after I got of of the prison,however ("Live Another Life")

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My bad SkyrimCliff.. didn't know about the tags at first. Thanks for learning me something.

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Alright first off, please edit your post to include "spoiler" tags for each individual section, because right now, people don't even bother reading your post all the way through because nobody wants to press the page down button 8 times just to get to the bottom, and/or go up and down to cross reference their reply with some line of text above. Make 1 spoiler for your load order, and 1 spoiler for each ini file you listed.

 

Thanks

 

Now to get to your question, you cant use ENBoost AND the ENB binaries, regardless if you're using an ENB preset or not, I wasn't entirely clear on whether or not you stated you're using both binary files (which already include ENBoost in the form of the enbhost file).

 

Next, I see you got rid of Dual Sheath Redux, does this also mean you made sure to re-run any mods that had installers with patches for DSR? Gotta make sure you don't, they're hidden inside all sort of mods these days and we forget to re-run those installers to uncheck those patches.

 

Next, you mentioned the coloration bugs that show up over time, right? Not just from the moment you boot up the game? This is very commonly seen in the case of GPU overheating which causes visual artifacts, but only after a few minutes/hours of gameplay after the GPU is thoroughly burning up. Do you track your CPU and GPU temperature at all? I suggest you start doing so unless you're confident that your tower is super chilled, and you have radiators keeping your CPU cool during those hot summer seasons.

 

Next, I see you're not using some mods that I'd pretty much call absolutely essential, no argument, must have stability mods. Please MANUALLY install the following, (do not use a mod manager like MO or NMM!)

 

Also, are you using the latest version of SKSE with the correct memory patch SKSE.ini file? If not, please do so asap. No excuses!

  • Manually Install SKSE v1.7.2 (do not use MO or NMM)
  • Make sure you have THIS file inside your SKSE folder.

After you've responded to, and/or addressed the issues I've mentioned in this post, then we can address your ini files, but I didn't bother to read those yet until we take care of some blaring issues first.

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All of those mods you listed can be installed with MO or NMM just fine (save for SKSE which has files you need in the main Skyrim folder, but its scripts can be installed separately with MO or NMM).

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  On 5/10/2015 at 4:39 AM, myztikrice said:

All of those mods you listed can be installed with MO or NMM just fine (save for SKSE which has files you need in the main Skyrim folder, but its scripts can be installed separately with MO or NMM).

 

With all due respect myztikrice, I disagree.

 

SkyUI is notoriously problematic if you do not install manually and only up until semi recently, the SkuUI mod page explicitly instructed you to install manually. Currently, you can also install it through NMM (but not MO) but that method is not recommended for reasons that I'm going to get into shortly. Mod Managers handle assets on a secondary basis compared to skyrim-managed assets. Skyrim managed assets always get first priority, much like how loose gets priority over BSA.

 

You don't want SkyUI assets to be overwritten, ever, and therefore you want them to be handled directly. Same for OneTweak and uStable, both mods that you don't want anything overwriting, ever, and are dependent on assets that you very much want to allow direct manement, rather than a mod manager, skipping all middle-men. As for SKSE, I fundamentally disagree. You 100% want to use the v1.7.2 installer, not the loose files. It would be terrible advice to do otherwise.

 

There are only a very small number of items that you want to install manually, and they are ENB binaries, SkyUI, ustable, SKSE, onetweak, FNIS, and a small handful of skeleton/animation type mods that again.. you dont want a mod manager handling because you don't want any middle-men ever having priority over them.

 

Again, with all due respect.

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  On 5/10/2015 at 5:54 AM, SkyrimCliff said:

 

  On 5/10/2015 at 4:39 AM, myztikrice said:

All of those mods you listed can be installed with MO or NMM just fine (save for SKSE which has files you need in the main Skyrim folder, but its scripts can be installed separately with MO or NMM).

 

With all due respect myztikrice, I disagree.

 

SkyUI is notoriously problematic if you do not install manually and only up until semi recently, the SkuUI mod page explicitly instructed you to install manually. Currently, you can also install it through NMM (but not MO) but that method is not recommended for reasons that I'm going to get into shortly. Mod Managers handle assets on a secondary basis compared to skyrim-managed assets. Skyrim managed assets always get first priority, much like how loose gets priority over BSA.

 

You don't want SkyUI assets to be overwritten, ever, and therefore you want them to be handled directly. Same for OneTweak and uStable, both mods that you don't want anything overwriting, ever, and are dependent on assets that you very much want to allow direct manement, rather than a mod manager, skipping all middle-men. As for SKSE, I fundamentally disagree. You 100% want to use the v1.7.2 installer, not the loose files. It would be terrible advice to do otherwise.

 

There are only a very small number of items that you want to install manually, and they are ENB binaries, SkyUI, ustable, SKSE, onetweak, FNIS, and a small handful of skeleton/animation type mods that again.. you dont want a mod manager handling because you don't want any middle-men ever having priority over them.

 

Again, with all due respect.

 

 

Or just unpack the .bsa and install it as loose files with NMM. That way you get warned when something tries to overwrite skyui. Installing it manually with it's .bsa intact means you can never again safely install something manually because you won't get the popup to overwrite.

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Been testing for a few hours so far.. Almost no saves have loaded up for me with OneTweak intsalled.. Cell stabilizer didn't seem to make a difference..

 

I don't think it's a vram issue, concerning the black and purple textures because of this:

 

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Honestly, My first and second blocks never even succeeded 512 and 256 when they were set to that.

 

I've got a corsair H100i on my CPU with overhead fans as well as one on the front and back of my case. It's also a cold day here in Chicago and my tower is sitting on window ledge breathing in the cold air that's freezing my room. regardless, it's getting really ugly just as fast. I loaded a new character and everything was entirely black besides the sky

 

My unmodded skyrim and every other game including MKX and FarCry 4 plays without a hitch however.. So I must have made a mistake.

 

Maybe I cleaned a file with TESEdit5 I wasn't suppose to

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A couple things I saw: Under your ENBLocal settings, you have UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false, it should be set to "true" if you are not using an ENB preset. ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false should also be set to "true". VideoMemorySizeMb=16384 the number you have here is way too high; I know there are some who say it helps to set it high, but I've had the best luck just setting it with what I actually have. Try it, if it dosen't help, you can always change it back.

 

As an aside, I've encountered a lot of people here that have had trouble with the Sex Lab mod messing up their games, and I noticed a lot of calls for it in your logs so it might be worth starting a new game with it disabled to see if that helps anything.

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I dunno.. Those particular mods have given me little trouble in the past on very stable playthroughs.. nothing like what's troubling me now. I do have to turn off SOS in the MCM when I'm just adventuring in general or else it will misbehave.

 

I'll change my ENBlocal.ini back.. because what I got atm isn't working still..

 

My load is is under 200 now.. got rid of a few scripted mods.. Throwing weapons redux, TDF prostitution and a bunch of others that are FPS intensive like skyrim flora overhaul. New characters playthroughs load a bit faster, but the problems persist.

 

Thought it could have been sweetfx so got rid of that too. still, no fix.

 

There's something up with that RealVision guide that's screwing with my game.. one or a combination of those steps. I've never experienced anything like this before.

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