jediakyrol Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25809369. #25809884, #25811279, #25811379, #25811454, #25811619, #25811709, #25811839, #25812549, #25812579, #25812739, #25816559, #25817939, #25818664, #25822494, #25822964, #25823894, #25826099 are all replies on the same post.frogzilla98 wrote: I feel like I'm in a club of eight who like the fact that the Protagonist may have a voice. #championofkirkwall Traditionalfire wrote: DA2 will always be my favorite Dragon Age.frogzilla98 wrote: Just a lowly refugee, your champion arrivedBrown shores of Ferelden fade to Kirkwall's buzzing hiveRose above the poverty and rose above the painMy friend became the savior of the white city of chainsfrogzilla98 wrote: Seriously, though. How do you feel about the protagonist having a voice? Rioplats wrote: I'm against the idea. I'm planning to really involve myself with learning to create mod content starting with FO4, and this makes it really hard to make it immersive. Doesn't it feel wrong to you if you can speak normally to one NPC, but then you suddenly become mute whenever you speak to a modded NPC?Thviker wrote: Honestly, the trailer makes it look like it's not modifiable at all, but hopefully that's just because it's pre-rendered.Rioplats wrote: No way, I refuse to believe that Bethesda has given up modding... It looks like a boosted version of the Creation/Gamebryo engine, so it should be moddable, right?Thviker wrote: I have lost all hope myself of this game being tolerable. So I counting on you guys to keep the hope up. Everything may change once we see some actual gameplay though.hector530 wrote: Entire video was rendering in game...Thviker wrote: You can't prove that.hector530 wrote: go to their facebook they say it, BGS has never done bullshots.One the very few who haventfrogzilla98 wrote: @Rioplats - No, it wouldn't be wrong to me because that mod quest isn't part of the original game so I wouldn't expect voice acting from the Protagonist. TheCourier13 wrote: @ hector530Link?ArekkusuStorm wrote: @TheCourier - I didn't see it on their Facebook page, but Hector's right, it's written on Bethesda store's preorder page: http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/fallout-4.htmlPre-order Fallout 4 and get 20% off your next purchase on the Bethesda Store! (A 20% off code will be emailed to you after purchase. 20% off excludes games, pre-sale, deposit and sale items. Codes expire October 31, 2015.)World’s Most Anticipated Game in Development at Bethesda Game Studios. Full Details to be Unveiled on June 14th at Bethesda’s E3 Showcase.“We know what this game means to everyone,” said Game Director, Todd Howard. “The time and technology have allowed us to be more ambitious than ever. We’ve never been more excited about a game, and we can’t wait to share it.” The game’s official trailer, created >in-game< at Bethesda Game Studios, can be viewed at: www.fallout4.com.Fallout 4 has not yet been rated by the ESRB. Rioplats wrote: @frogzilla98, Obviously that's what your head tells you; don't expect voice acting from mods. But mods work so well because they fit into the game as if they were meant to be part of the game. Once that's taken away, you're just left feeling like it was a cheat or broken. If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that people like myself are.BluePixel wrote: I'm not a "hardcore" fundamentalist but I think it's a very bad idea. One of the best things about the fallout games (I only played 3 and NV so far) is that you can customize the character and imagine his/her personality. You can create many types of characters like in Tes games.Even if the character they give us is awesome on his own, the very fact that you are stuck with him makes it awkward.It just seems like a pointless gimmick. I mean it seem will be given a new, massive, colorful world to explore, but without character customization.devanroth22 wrote: @Rioplats - I mean...maybe we could just mod out the player's voice, n make him a true vault dweller! I'd endorse it lolmacintroll wrote: @Thviker100% sure it's All ingame footage and scenes, i agree with hector. I can't see ANYTHING from pre-calculated render.How am I supposed to play a 1-int character if he speaks like a MIT graduate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiCHo666 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25809369. #25809884, #25811279, #25811379, #25811454, #25811619, #25811709, #25811839, #25812549, #25812579, #25812739, #25816559, #25817939, #25818664, #25822494, #25822964, #25823894, #25826099, #25829059 are all replies on the same post.frogzilla98 wrote: I feel like I'm in a club of eight who like the fact that the Protagonist may have a voice. #championofkirkwall Traditionalfire wrote: DA2 will always be my favorite Dragon Age.frogzilla98 wrote: Just a lowly refugee, your champion arrivedBrown shores of Ferelden fade to Kirkwall's buzzing hiveRose above the poverty and rose above the painMy friend became the savior of the white city of chainsfrogzilla98 wrote: Seriously, though. How do you feel about the protagonist having a voice? Rioplats wrote: I'm against the idea. I'm planning to really involve myself with learning to create mod content starting with FO4, and this makes it really hard to make it immersive. Doesn't it feel wrong to you if you can speak normally to one NPC, but then you suddenly become mute whenever you speak to a modded NPC?Thviker wrote: Honestly, the trailer makes it look like it's not modifiable at all, but hopefully that's just because it's pre-rendered.Rioplats wrote: No way, I refuse to believe that Bethesda has given up modding... It looks like a boosted version of the Creation/Gamebryo engine, so it should be moddable, right?Thviker wrote: I have lost all hope myself of this game being tolerable. So I counting on you guys to keep the hope up. Everything may change once we see some actual gameplay though.hector530 wrote: Entire video was rendering in game...Thviker wrote: You can't prove that.hector530 wrote: go to their facebook they say it, BGS has never done bullshots.One the very few who haventfrogzilla98 wrote: @Rioplats - No, it wouldn't be wrong to me because that mod quest isn't part of the original game so I wouldn't expect voice acting from the Protagonist. TheCourier13 wrote: @ hector530Link?ArekkusuStorm wrote: @TheCourier - I didn't see it on their Facebook page, but Hector's right, it's written on Bethesda store's preorder page: http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/fallout-4.htmlPre-order Fallout 4 and get 20% off your next purchase on the Bethesda Store! (A 20% off code will be emailed to you after purchase. 20% off excludes games, pre-sale, deposit and sale items. Codes expire October 31, 2015.)World’s Most Anticipated Game in Development at Bethesda Game Studios. Full Details to be Unveiled on June 14th at Bethesda’s E3 Showcase.“We know what this game means to everyone,” said Game Director, Todd Howard. “The time and technology have allowed us to be more ambitious than ever. We’ve never been more excited about a game, and we can’t wait to share it.” The game’s official trailer, created >in-game< at Bethesda Game Studios, can be viewed at: www.fallout4.com.Fallout 4 has not yet been rated by the ESRB. Rioplats wrote: @frogzilla98, Obviously that's what your head tells you; don't expect voice acting from mods. But mods work so well because they fit into the game as if they were meant to be part of the game. Once that's taken away, you're just left feeling like it was a cheat or broken. If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that people like myself are.BluePixel wrote: I'm not a "hardcore" fundamentalist but I think it's a very bad idea. One of the best things about the fallout games (I only played 3 and NV so far) is that you can customize the character and imagine his/her personality. You can create many types of characters like in Tes games.Even if the character they give us is awesome on his own, the very fact that you are stuck with him makes it awkward.It just seems like a pointless gimmick. I mean it seem will be given a new, massive, colorful world to explore, but without character customization.devanroth22 wrote: @Rioplats - I mean...maybe we could just mod out the player's voice, n make him a true vault dweller! I'd endorse it lolmacintroll wrote: @Thviker100% sure it's All ingame footage and scenes, i agree with hector. I can't see ANYTHING from pre-calculated render.jediakyrol wrote: How am I supposed to play a 1-int character if he speaks like a MIT graduate?As some rumors say, there won't be SPECIAL system, so you can't have low INT. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogzilla98 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25809369. #25809884, #25811279, #25811379, #25811454, #25811619, #25811709, #25811839, #25812549, #25812579, #25812739, #25816559, #25817939, #25818664, #25822494, #25822964, #25823894, #25826099, #25829059, #25829279 are all replies on the same post.frogzilla98 wrote: I feel like I'm in a club of eight who like the fact that the Protagonist may have a voice. #championofkirkwall Traditionalfire wrote: DA2 will always be my favorite Dragon Age.frogzilla98 wrote: Just a lowly refugee, your champion arrivedBrown shores of Ferelden fade to Kirkwall's buzzing hiveRose above the poverty and rose above the painMy friend became the savior of the white city of chainsfrogzilla98 wrote: Seriously, though. How do you feel about the protagonist having a voice? Rioplats wrote: I'm against the idea. I'm planning to really involve myself with learning to create mod content starting with FO4, and this makes it really hard to make it immersive. Doesn't it feel wrong to you if you can speak normally to one NPC, but then you suddenly become mute whenever you speak to a modded NPC?Thviker wrote: Honestly, the trailer makes it look like it's not modifiable at all, but hopefully that's just because it's pre-rendered.Rioplats wrote: No way, I refuse to believe that Bethesda has given up modding... It looks like a boosted version of the Creation/Gamebryo engine, so it should be moddable, right?Thviker wrote: I have lost all hope myself of this game being tolerable. So I counting on you guys to keep the hope up. Everything may change once we see some actual gameplay though.hector530 wrote: Entire video was rendering in game...Thviker wrote: You can't prove that.hector530 wrote: go to their facebook they say it, BGS has never done bullshots.One the very few who haventfrogzilla98 wrote: @Rioplats - No, it wouldn't be wrong to me because that mod quest isn't part of the original game so I wouldn't expect voice acting from the Protagonist. TheCourier13 wrote: @ hector530Link?ArekkusuStorm wrote: @TheCourier - I didn't see it on their Facebook page, but Hector's right, it's written on Bethesda store's preorder page: http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/fallout-4.htmlPre-order Fallout 4 and get 20% off your next purchase on the Bethesda Store! (A 20% off code will be emailed to you after purchase. 20% off excludes games, pre-sale, deposit and sale items. Codes expire October 31, 2015.)World’s Most Anticipated Game in Development at Bethesda Game Studios. Full Details to be Unveiled on June 14th at Bethesda’s E3 Showcase.“We know what this game means to everyone,” said Game Director, Todd Howard. “The time and technology have allowed us to be more ambitious than ever. We’ve never been more excited about a game, and we can’t wait to share it.” The game’s official trailer, created >in-game< at Bethesda Game Studios, can be viewed at: www.fallout4.com.Fallout 4 has not yet been rated by the ESRB. Rioplats wrote: @frogzilla98, Obviously that's what your head tells you; don't expect voice acting from mods. But mods work so well because they fit into the game as if they were meant to be part of the game. Once that's taken away, you're just left feeling like it was a cheat or broken. If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that people like myself are.BluePixel wrote: I'm not a "hardcore" fundamentalist but I think it's a very bad idea. One of the best things about the fallout games (I only played 3 and NV so far) is that you can customize the character and imagine his/her personality. You can create many types of characters like in Tes games.Even if the character they give us is awesome on his own, the very fact that you are stuck with him makes it awkward.It just seems like a pointless gimmick. I mean it seem will be given a new, massive, colorful world to explore, but without character customization.devanroth22 wrote: @Rioplats - I mean...maybe we could just mod out the player's voice, n make him a true vault dweller! I'd endorse it lolmacintroll wrote: @Thviker100% sure it's All ingame footage and scenes, i agree with hector. I can't see ANYTHING from pre-calculated render.jediakyrol wrote: How am I supposed to play a 1-int character if he speaks like a MIT graduate?KiCHo666 wrote: As some rumors say, there won't be SPECIAL system, so you can't have low INT. -_-@ Rioplats - Yes, my head tells me things. Many things. In fact, maybe I'm crazy, but I imagine that ALL our heads tell us things. Or I the only one? "If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder." Well, I am, actually. It might be shocking to you, but I don't feel the same way about it as you do. That doesn't mean I won't be immersed in the story and the world.Me and muh immersion will be fine. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogzilla98 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25824664. #25824914, #25825809, #25825919, #25826019, #25826209, #25826354, #25826574, #25828999 are all replies on the same post.Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."jim_uk wrote: This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Darkspazz wrote: Good lord everyone chill out, They already hired voice actors for both the male and female character, You'll be able to play as a girl. Can y'all stop circle jerking nonsense?SMB92 wrote: Can you back that, Darkspazz, with say, some EVIDENCE :/Back to the topic, I don't particularly feel comfortable with having a "gender change" at the end of the story, in fact if at all. I always play my character as "Trinity" from the Matrix, this would piss me off severely. And hopefully that woman from reddit isn't joking about a new engine + map size, let's hope it's moddable. With all this talk of cutting everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. But then, they'd probably want to charge wouldn't they?JianXintou wrote: Are there any sources for these supposed VAs? The reddit post above may not be 100% accurate but doesn't seem too far off, either. CRBASF23 wrote: If we was really the person who leaked the information to Kotaku, why in the Kotaku article it says that they called for both Male and Female actors, when in her reddit post says you can only play as Male?CRBASF23 wrote: Kotaku the supposed magazine which the woman leaked the info to, in it's article said that they had a casting call for both male and female VA's: http://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956jim_uk wrote: Try reading the Reddit post, it says you can switch to female after the main quest, that would explain the female VA as would having women Npcs. jediakyrol wrote: In every fallout you could play as a woman...even BoS for XBox... It would be the stupidest thing in the world if they locked you to one gender (unless it was for like a flashback chapter where you are put in the shoes of your ancestor)Yeah. White men are the devil. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jediakyrol Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25809369. #25809884, #25811279, #25811379, #25811454, #25811619, #25811709, #25811839, #25812549, #25812579, #25812739, #25816559, #25817939, #25818664, #25822494, #25822964, #25823894, #25826099, #25829059, #25829279, #25830249 are all replies on the same post.frogzilla98 wrote: I feel like I'm in a club of eight who like the fact that the Protagonist may have a voice. #championofkirkwall Traditionalfire wrote: DA2 will always be my favorite Dragon Age.frogzilla98 wrote: Just a lowly refugee, your champion arrivedBrown shores of Ferelden fade to Kirkwall's buzzing hiveRose above the poverty and rose above the painMy friend became the savior of the white city of chainsfrogzilla98 wrote: Seriously, though. How do you feel about the protagonist having a voice? Rioplats wrote: I'm against the idea. I'm planning to really involve myself with learning to create mod content starting with FO4, and this makes it really hard to make it immersive. Doesn't it feel wrong to you if you can speak normally to one NPC, but then you suddenly become mute whenever you speak to a modded NPC?Thviker wrote: Honestly, the trailer makes it look like it's not modifiable at all, but hopefully that's just because it's pre-rendered.Rioplats wrote: No way, I refuse to believe that Bethesda has given up modding... It looks like a boosted version of the Creation/Gamebryo engine, so it should be moddable, right?Thviker wrote: I have lost all hope myself of this game being tolerable. So I counting on you guys to keep the hope up. Everything may change once we see some actual gameplay though.hector530 wrote: Entire video was rendering in game...Thviker wrote: You can't prove that.hector530 wrote: go to their facebook they say it, BGS has never done bullshots.One the very few who haventfrogzilla98 wrote: @Rioplats - No, it wouldn't be wrong to me because that mod quest isn't part of the original game so I wouldn't expect voice acting from the Protagonist. TheCourier13 wrote: @ hector530Link?ArekkusuStorm wrote: @TheCourier - I didn't see it on their Facebook page, but Hector's right, it's written on Bethesda store's preorder page: http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/fallout-4.htmlPre-order Fallout 4 and get 20% off your next purchase on the Bethesda Store! (A 20% off code will be emailed to you after purchase. 20% off excludes games, pre-sale, deposit and sale items. Codes expire October 31, 2015.)World’s Most Anticipated Game in Development at Bethesda Game Studios. Full Details to be Unveiled on June 14th at Bethesda’s E3 Showcase.“We know what this game means to everyone,” said Game Director, Todd Howard. “The time and technology have allowed us to be more ambitious than ever. We’ve never been more excited about a game, and we can’t wait to share it.” The game’s official trailer, created >in-game< at Bethesda Game Studios, can be viewed at: www.fallout4.com.Fallout 4 has not yet been rated by the ESRB. Rioplats wrote: @frogzilla98, Obviously that's what your head tells you; don't expect voice acting from mods. But mods work so well because they fit into the game as if they were meant to be part of the game. Once that's taken away, you're just left feeling like it was a cheat or broken. If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that people like myself are.BluePixel wrote: I'm not a "hardcore" fundamentalist but I think it's a very bad idea. One of the best things about the fallout games (I only played 3 and NV so far) is that you can customize the character and imagine his/her personality. You can create many types of characters like in Tes games.Even if the character they give us is awesome on his own, the very fact that you are stuck with him makes it awkward.It just seems like a pointless gimmick. I mean it seem will be given a new, massive, colorful world to explore, but without character customization.devanroth22 wrote: @Rioplats - I mean...maybe we could just mod out the player's voice, n make him a true vault dweller! I'd endorse it lolmacintroll wrote: @Thviker100% sure it's All ingame footage and scenes, i agree with hector. I can't see ANYTHING from pre-calculated render.jediakyrol wrote: How am I supposed to play a 1-int character if he speaks like a MIT graduate?KiCHo666 wrote: As some rumors say, there won't be SPECIAL system, so you can't have low INT. -_-frogzilla98 wrote: @ Rioplats - Yes, my head tells me things. Many things. In fact, maybe I'm crazy, but I imagine that ALL our heads tell us things. Or I the only one? "If that doesn't bother you, I guess you're just not an immersive modder." Well, I am, actually. It might be shocking to you, but I don't feel the same way about it as you do. That doesn't mean I won't be immersed in the story and the world.Me and muh immersion will be fine. ;) ...Fallout without SPECIAL is RAGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDDragor Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25821109. #25823069 is also a reply to the same post.Rast3rMan wrote: On Steam for £50 as a pre-order with no extra goodies!jim_uk wrote: That could change, people should wait, there is no reason whatsoever to pre-order the thing yet, it's not like Steam is going to run out of copies. Amazon is listed a pre-order source for the game, they'll have disks which are usually cheaper, I brought the DVD versions of FNV and Skyrim from Amazon and they cost less than buying directly from Steam. 59.99EUR. Thats kinda... well that's just not the price which I imagined for Fallout 4, since games like Fallout and TES tend to have payed DLCs. But its only day 2 after the public announcement so maybe the price will change and they may add some goodies to the pre-order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterseventeen Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) In response to post #25824664. #25824914, #25825809, #25825919, #25826019, #25826209, #25826354, #25826574, #25828999, #25830289, #25831614, #25832299, #25832644 are all replies on the same post.Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."jim_uk wrote: This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Darkspazz wrote: Good lord everyone chill out, They already hired voice actors for both the male and female character, You'll be able to play as a girl. Can y'all stop circle jerking nonsense?SMB92 wrote: Can you back that, Darkspazz, with say, some EVIDENCE :/Back to the topic, I don't particularly feel comfortable with having a "gender change" at the end of the story, in fact if at all. I always play my character as "Trinity" from the Matrix, this would piss me off severely. And hopefully that woman from reddit isn't joking about a new engine + map size, let's hope it's moddable. With all this talk of cutting everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. But then, they'd probably want to charge wouldn't they?JianXintou wrote: Are there any sources for these supposed VAs? The reddit post above may not be 100% accurate but doesn't seem too far off, either. CRBASF23 wrote: If we was really the person who leaked the information to Kotaku, why in the Kotaku article it says that they called for both Male and Female actors, when in her reddit post says you can only play as Male?CRBASF23 wrote: Kotaku the supposed magazine which the woman leaked the info to, in it's article said that they had a casting call for both male and female VA's: http://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956jim_uk wrote: Try reading the Reddit post, it says you can switch to female after the main quest, that would explain the female VA as would having women Npcs. jediakyrol wrote: In every fallout you could play as a woman...even BoS for XBox... It would be the stupidest thing in the world if they locked you to one gender (unless it was for like a flashback chapter where you are put in the shoes of your ancestor)frogzilla98 wrote: Yeah. White men are the devil. /s NDDragor wrote: If they are taking away the option to play as a female, then they are destroying the creative process of creating your own and unique character that was one of the things which I enjoyed the most in the Fallout and TES series because the different characters which I created felt alive and I could play the games again and again, always making my own and new story with a different character. But to play with a predetermined character is making me feel like something is limiting me and I cant feel the freedom of the game anymore. But this opinion of mine is only about the Fallout and TES series. There are many games where I enjoy the predetermined protagonists.CRBASF23 wrote: This is what the kotaku article said: The casting documents describe some of the other characters in the next Fallout's wasteland, like a radio DJ named Travis Miles and an engineer named Sturges who is described as "a cross between Buddy Holly and Vin Diesel." Casting calls for both the male and female versions of the player character note that the player begins the game in a cryogenic sleep chamber.JianXintou wrote: @CRBASF23: Thanks for the source." it says you can switch to female after the main quest"That sounds like an odd design decision. "Hey, you're done with the MQ, congrats. Now you can go to some big MT-esque geniuses that can change your sex!" "a new "Classic Mode" that will put the game into birds eye view and play similar to the classic Fallout Games."This sounds curious, kind of like DA. Not sure how this will play out if it's true. i play fallout as a woman, and most games as the same character where i can put her, the reason might seem sexist, i have put her there since oblivion on playstation 3, this was the first game i played where a player could fully customise there own character, so naturally i put myself or as close as i could as the character, then half way down the gold road toward anvil a bunch of female bandits jumped out and set about me, i killed one before feeling uncomfortable, since then i have had the same kick ass woman in every game i can, i feel a great affection for her, apart from the fact she is all i want to look at 'cos i play 3rd person, i always try to find her romance. Edited June 4, 2015 by monsterseventeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakovasour Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25827189. GnatGoSplat wrote: In response to post #25824664. #25824914, #25825809, #25825919, #25826019, #25826209, #25826354 are all replies on the same post.Lisnpuppy wrote: In response to post #25824069. znancekivell wrote: Excellent.In fact, I have only a single complaint about the whole trailer.We all know that Fallout 4 will ( or should! ) let us choose which gender we want to be, so as far as the actual game is concerned this is a moot point, but I am disappointed that Bethesda chose ( yet again! ) a male stand-in for the PC instead of a female wanderer. I really am becoming utterly sick of all these Caucasian males running around in video games, and I would prefer to see some actual variety in the spice of nuclear apocalyptic life.Love the dog, by the way. Wo/Man's best friend! If rumours are correct there is no female player character, that's going to piss some people off, as for dudes in nearly every game...Contains strong language. If that is true...(and I hope to the internet deities that Bethesda has learned players want MORE choices and not less) then that may actually be a deal breaker for me. That is going backwards. The last two games you could play as female so it makes little sense why you would not be able to do so now. It wouldn't even be totally about the fact I am female...it is at the end, choice. Bethesda seems to narrow games more and more with each one. I don't care how pretty the graphics are or if the game has drivable cars. Let me have at least a semblance of choice and be able to choose male or female. With everything that has taken place in the past few years regarding women's place in gaming I would think that in a title that is looked forward to by so many that gender choice would be a no-brainer. I would smack of lazy and that Bethesda has had its fingers in the ears and are loudly singing "la la la la la can't hear you la la la."jim_uk wrote: This woman was mocked at the time but so far what she's said has been on the money https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4 not just the date and location but if you check out of the developer making the spin off you'll find they're a Bethesda partner and looking to hire people with Gamebryo/id Tech experience. If the post in genuine then it's not looking good for those who want choices. Darkspazz wrote: Good lord everyone chill out, They already hired voice actors for both the male and female character, You'll be able to play as a girl. Can y'all stop circle jerking nonsense?SMB92 wrote: Can you back that, Darkspazz, with say, some EVIDENCE :/Back to the topic, I don't particularly feel comfortable with having a "gender change" at the end of the story, in fact if at all. I always play my character as "Trinity" from the Matrix, this would piss me off severely. And hopefully that woman from reddit isn't joking about a new engine + map size, let's hope it's moddable. With all this talk of cutting everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. But then, they'd probably want to charge wouldn't they?JianXintou wrote: Are there any sources for these supposed VAs?The reddit post above may not be 100% accurate but doesn't seem too far off, either. CRBASF23 wrote: If we was really the person who leaked the information to Kotaku, why in the Kotaku article it says that they called for both Male and Female actors, when in her reddit post says you can only play as Male?CRBASF23 wrote: Kotaku the supposed magazine which the woman leaked the info to, in it's article said that they had a casting call for both male and female VA's: http://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956Try reading the Reddit post, it says you can switch to female after the main quest, that would explain the female VA as would having women Npcs. If it's not possible to play a female protagonist from the beginning, then I'm no longer excited about the game.In some possibly weird, lonely, and pathetic way, I get attached to my female characters and want to see her succeed and am always anxious to see what happens next in her story. I just don't form this kind of emotional attachment with male protagonists. With a male protagonist, I just feel more like I'm killing time just to have something to do. Playing GTA V now and I like the characters, but I don't love them. Being passionate about my character was a large part of the fun for me in FO3 and FONV. Not saying I wouldn't play FO4, but lack of female protagonist takes it from a "must have" to a "might buy when it goes on sale for cheap".boohoo :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohamed2001 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 In response to post #25821109. #25823069 is also a reply to the same post. Rast3rMan wrote: On Steam for £50 as a pre-order with no extra goodies!jim_uk wrote: That could change, people should wait, there is no reason whatsoever to pre-order the thing yet, it's not like Steam is going to run out of copies. Amazon is listed a pre-order source for the game, they'll have disks which are usually cheaper, I brought the DVD versions of FNV and Skyrim from Amazon and they cost less than buying directly from Steam. 59.99EUR. Thats kinda... well that's just not the price which I imagined for Fallout 4, since games like Fallout and TES tend to have payed DLCs. But its only day 2 after the public announcement so maybe the price will change and they may add some goodies to the pre-order. Most games are 59.99 USD/EU nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immo82 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 After reading these comments I have a feeling that Fallout 4 will suck big time. I bet they won't care one bit about what the fans want, they're just gonna make a Fallout version of mass effect mixed with CoD or some s#*! like that... Atleast I still have Torment - Tides of Numenera to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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