dlseanan Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Hi guys, Yes it's another crash to desktop post. My larger question is this; Is there something in particular that is crashing my game, or am i just pushing the Skyrim engine past its limit?The smaller questions are then the details. We'll make those up as we investigate. These CTD's generally happen after about an hour of play, but are most likely to occur when walking towards towns or cities, or when opening a SkyUI overlay (inventory screens, mostly); my sphincter clenches every time i loot something now. Interior cells fare better than exterior ones, but i'm guessing that's expected. Here are my PC specs: Windows 7 64-bit SP1Intel Core i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz8.0GB RAM (single stick, i'll get another i promise)NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (1GB VRAM) Skyrim itself is Legendary v1.9.32.0.8I use Mod Organizer v1.3.7SKSE v1.7.3 (beta build)Following the STEP guide i use Wrye Bash (Smash?), Dual Sheath Redux, and Fore's New Idles and their patches - all run through MO.I used DDSopt and STEP's guide to optimise as many textures as i could.Everything is located in C:\Program Files (x86)\ directory, but MO has administrative privileges, so i haven't run into many problems. My mod list follows the full STEP: Extended routine, and then most of REGS, a fair chunk of Survival, some mods i chose myself, and then relevant patches from Modular Morrowloot.Mod list:# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.+FNIS Patch+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS+Better Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer+Dual Sheath Redux Patch+Dual Sheath Redux+Bashed Patch+STEP - Skyrim Total Enhancement Project+STEP Core & Extended - Survival patch+REGS Merged Patch+Modular Morrowloot Patch+High Level Enemies - SIC - OBIS Patch+Unique Uniques - Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Patch+Vanilla Reduced Textures+Unofficial SPERG Patches+JContainers+vwr Wet Eyes+VioLens - A Killmove Mod+UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul+TK HitStop+TK Recoil+Smart Cast+RealisticRoomRental-Enhanced+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit+No Combat Boundaries and Unofficial Encounter Zone Patch+Mine Foremen Sell Ore+Loot and Degradation+iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep+Immersive Spells and Light - Spells emit light+Harvest Overhaul+Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival+Face to face conversation+Farmers Sell Produce+Enhanced Skyrim Factions - The Companions Guild+Dragon Soul Relinquishment+Cobb Encumbrance+College of Winterhold Entry Requirements+Classic Level Up+Chasing the Dragon - Toxicity and Addiction+Better Fast Travel - Carriages and Ships - Overhauled+OMINOUS Dragon Soul Absorb Music+Musical Lore (Soundtrack Mod By Nir Shor)+Kill The Orchestra+Immersive Sounds - Footsteps 2.0+Hoths Main Menu Music Replacer+Supreme Storms+Supreme and Volumetric Fog+Subliminal Traps 2 - NMM Installer by Kevkas+Remove Interior Fog V2+Realistic Sun Vanilla+No Snow Under The Roof+ETHEREAL CLOUDS+Enhanced Lights and FX+Vilja in Skyrim+Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower+Serana Dialogue Edit+Queen of the Damned - Deadlier Serana+INIGO+Hoth+Follower Commentary Overhaul+Familiar Faces+Erandur Redone+Companion Valfar+The Dragon Engine+Skyrim Immersive Creatures+OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim+Interesting NPCs+Inconsequential NPCs+Immersive Patrols+High Level Enemies 1.6 SIC Edition+Extended Encounters+Deadly Dragons-Civil War Overhaul+Black Horse Courier Reborn+Wearable Lanterns 3 0b+Unique Dragon Priest Masks - HD textures+Unique Uniques+Unique Weapons Redone+The One Ring a LOTR mod+Real Bows Lite+Psilocybin Mushrooms NMM+Ethereal Ghostblade+Eli's Coffee Mod+Book Covers Skyrim+Windhelm Lighthouse+Windcallers Pass+Unique Border Gates+The Shadow of Meresis+Provincial Courier Service+Ogmunds Tomb+Nightingale Hall Restored - Karliah as a Follower+Immersive Fallen Trees Mod+Immersive Dawnguard Dayspring Pass+Immersive College of Winterhold+High Hrothgar Overhaul+Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim+Helgen Reborn+Dawn of Skyrim Collection 1.2-58275-1-2+Breezehome Firepit Removed+Blackreach Overhaul+Better Docks+Apple garden_Il giardino delle mele+Alternate Start - Live Another Life+Realistic Boat Bobbing+Player Headtracking+Equipping Overhaul+Enhanced Camera+Better Jumping+Belt-Fastened Quivers 1 2 Release+Small Crosshair+No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu+moreHUD+iActivate+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget+SafetyLoad+Arissa - The Wandering Rogue+SPERG - Skyrim Perk Enhancements and Rebalanced Gameplay+Winterhold - Expanded Ruins+Expanded Towns and Cities+Dynamic Loot+Even Better Quest Objectives+When Vampires Attack+Wet and Cold+Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps+T3nd0s Skyrim Redone+Thieves Guild Requirements - No Auto Quest Start Brynjolf+The Paarthurnax Dilemma+The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper+Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux+Run For Your Lives+Oblivion Gates+Non-Essential Children-No NPC Greetings+Lock Overhaul+Gildergreen Regrown+Follower Trap Safety+Dual Wield Parrying+Immersive Horses+Come together N Out of the way - Nausicaa-S Tweaker+ClamsDropPearls+Bring Out Your Dead+Auto Unequip Ammo+Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds+Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds+Thundering shouts+Smooth blades draw and sheath+Realistic wolf howls+Lower Sounding Thieves Guild Door+Improved Combat Sounds+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.4+IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul+Dragons Shout with Voice+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2+Better Weapon Swing Sounds+Better Horse Pain Sounds+Better Animal Footsteps+White Phial Replacer+Sweet Mother - the Night Mother Improvement+Super Realistic Ore Textures+Soul Gems Differ+Skyrim Redesigned+Silly Level of Detail - Wine Cellar -- SLOD WC+Silly Level of Detail - Potions and Poisons -- SLOD PnP+Septim HD+Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel+Realistic Instruments - Flute Lute and Drum HQ+Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons HD+Pilgrims Delight - Legacy+Not Really HD Keys+N-R HD Display Case+Intricate Spider Webs+HQ Paper+HD Sacks Retexture+HD Ore And Ingots+HD Linens+HD Baskets Retex+Gemling Queen Dragon Claws+Enhanced HD Dragon Bones 1k v1.6a+Improved Enchanter Candle Meshes+Detailed Rugs+Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored - Standard Edition+Better Shadowmarks+Better Bones+The 418th Step+Skyrim Performance PLUS+Smaller Ice Spike and Ice Spear+Running with your Bow Replacer+Wonders of Weather+NoMaaM Breathing Idles BBB-No Spinning Death Animation+Lightning During Thunderstorms+Improved Weapon Impact EFFECTS Correct Metal+Finer Dust+Enhanced Blood Textures+Enchantment Effect Replacer+Blocking Animation Pack+Deadly Spell Impacts+Dawnguard Rune Weapons FXS Replacer+Burn Freeze Shock Effects+Better Turn Animation only One pose+Animated Weapon Enchants+Animated Clutter+Ultimate HD Torch+Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile+Nightingale Prime HD+New Thinner Torch+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards Redux+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project+Sky Haven Temple Merchants and More+Gemling Queen Jewelry+Elemental Staffs+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows+Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized+Better Circlets HQ V1o1+aMidianBorn stormcloak officer armour+aMidianBorn imperial light and studded+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Content Addon+aMidianBorn Book of Silence+aMidianBorn Blade of Woe+Natural Eyes+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles+XCE - Dawnguard+XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures+PondFish and Salmon Replacer - texture+new children+More Realistic Hair+Improved Foot Wraps for females+Frost Atronach HD Retex+Female Vampires Have Fangs+Cover Khajiits+Brows+Birds and Flocks+Better Freckles+Better Beast Races v2+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack+Beards+83Willows 101BugsHD Butterfly Dragonfly Luna-Moth Torchbug+Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack+Whiterun Trellis Redesigned and HQ+Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised+Visible Windows+TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation+The Beauty of Skyrim - Dungeons+Skyrim Improved Puddles - SIP+Skyrim Distant Detail+Realistic Water Two+Re-Defined Dungeons WIP+Real Wood Textures - Farmhouses No Green Moss Version 1K+Real Ice+Point The Way+Moss Rocks - Dragonborn DLC Addon+The Ruffled Feather+Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - MCM Special Edition+Improved Vanilla Mountains HD+Hybrids Hires Plant and Herb Retexture+HQ Snow Texture+HiRes Legible Road Signs+High Quality LODs+Farmhouse Chimneys+Footprints+Ethereal Cosmos+Purity+HD Enhanced Terrain+Dragon Glyphs HD - Fixed-Skyrim Flora Overhaul 2.1+aMidianBorn Whiterun+aMidianBorn Solstheim Landscape+aMidianBorn Farmhouse+aMidianBorn Caves and Mines+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads+The Ruffled Feather - Enhanced Distant Terrain+High Quality Food and Ingredients+Tobes Highres Textures+HD Misc+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul+Serious HD Retexture Skyrim+Static Mesh Improvement Mod+SkyFalls + SkyMills+Ultimate HD Fire Effects+The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.)+Realistic Smoke and Embers+Ruins Clutter Improved+Bethesda Hi-Res DLC Optimized+Smaller Cursor+SkyUI+RaceMenu+Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem+Main Font Replacement+Lore-Based Loading Screens+Lockpicking interface retex+KenMOD - Time on loading screen+Immersive HUD - iHUD+High Quality 3D Map-Disease Descriptions for the Immersive Adventurer+Better MessageBox Controls+Better Dialogue Controls+XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS-Realistic Force+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade+Cloaks of Skyrim+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade+Trade and Barter+Smart Souls+Skyrim Project Optimization+SKSE -Elys- AltF4+Ragdoll Paralysis+Improved closefaced helmets+Guard Dialogue Overhaul+Fuz Ro Doh+SkyRealism - Time and Travel-Fast travel timescale fix+Double Cursor Fix+Dead Body Collision Fix+Cutting Room Floor+Consistent Older People+Clothing and Clutter Fixes-Brawl Bugs Patch - Plugins - Modder Resource+Bowlegged jump animation Fix+Appropriately Attired Jarls+STEP - Vanilla Optimised Textures+Unofficial High Resolution Patch*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch*Unmanaged: Dragonborn+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch*Unmanaged: HearthFires+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch*Unmanaged: Dawnguard+Unofficial Skyrim Patch+Distant Decal Fix+Stable uGridsToLoad+skse 1 07 03In reverse order of priority, i guess. Plugin load order:Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmDynamicLoot.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmWinterholdDestruction.esmSPERG.esmCompanionArissa.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espCutting Room Floor.espSmartCast_1_0.esp83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.espCobbEncumbrance.espDawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.espBlackHorseCourier.espLootandDegradation.espSoul Gems Differ.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espCollege of Winterhold Entry Requirements.esptowConversation.espBWS.espGQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.espBrows.espLock Overhaul.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espChesko_WearableLantern.espRaceMenuPlugin.espClassicLevelUp.espHeadtracking.espBFSEffects.espAHZmoreHUD.espTKRecoil.espNausicaa's Tweaker.espUD_Serana.espDragonEngine2.espDragonShoutVoice.espDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.espDynamicLoot_DB_DG.espORM-Arvak.espSkyUI.espTradeBarter.espChasingTheDragon.espHitStop.espBeards.espSMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espMoss Rocks.espSMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espAppropriately Attired Jarls Redux.espNirShor-MusicalLore.espDual Sheath Redux.espAMatterOfTime.espFootprints.espRaceMenu.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espMoss Rocks_DB.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espETaC - Complete.espETaC IHO Compatibility Patch.espELFX - Dawguard - Dragonborn.espRealisticRoomRental.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp3DNPC.espPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.espPurity.espBring Out Your Dead.espBetterQuestObjectives.espNonEssentialChildren.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espNo Combat Boundaries - Legendary.espThieves Guild Requirements.espSkyRealism - Time and Travel.espmintylightningmod.espUFO - Dragonborn AddOn.espVioLens.espEthereal_Ghostblade.espRadiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.espaMidianBorn_ContentAddon.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espBook Covers Skyrim.espDawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.espRRR_ELFX-Patch.espSupreme Fog.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espExplosiveBoltsVisualized.espHarvestOverhaul.espClamsDropPearls.espfallentreebridges.espHelgen Reborn.espSkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.espDistant DetailHF.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espESFCompanions.espOBIS.espREGS - Better Docks.espCWIMergedPatch.espSPTConsistentOlderPeople.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.espEMCompViljaSkyrim.espEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espSky Haven Temple M&M3.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espHebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed - No Map Markers.espBetterDGEntrance.espOblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.espOblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.espBirdsHFclean.espBFT Ships and Carriages.espETaC - Complete Merged Patch.espRBB - Snowy Travel Merge.espInconsequential NPCs.espInconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.espBlackreachOverhaul.espClothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espWhen Vampires Attack.espWondersofWeather.espHigh Level Enemies - SIC.espImmersiveSpells.espOBIS DG DB Patch.espNightingale Hall.espHarvestOverhaulCreatures.espSMIM-DragonbornTernFix.espCloaks.espTheChoiceIsYours.espSDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.espRun For Your Lives.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espPoint The Way.espimp_helm_legend.espErandur Redone.espInigo.espSeranaDialogEdit.espTheOneRing.espDragon Soul Relinquishment.espUniqueBorderGates-All.espImmersive Patrols II.espSkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.espSDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.espCompanionValfar.espImmersive Horses.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixes.espREGS Merged Patch.espMineVendors.espFarmers Sell Produce - Skyrim.espSMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espSkyRe_StandingStones.esp3DNPC Merged Patch.espChesko_Frostfall.espSkyRe_Races.espProvincial Courier Service.espSkyRe_EnemyAI.espUniqueBorderGates-All-Merged.espPilgrimsDelight.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espFarmhouseChimneys.espRealisticWaterTwo.espAOS.espADS.espAnimated Weapon Enchants.espParalyze.espTrueStorms.espDeadlyDragons.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espTraps Are Dangerous.espImmersive Sounds - Footsteps.espIHSS.espSPERG.espSPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.espSupreme Storms.espUniqueWeaponsRedone.espElemental Staves.espISFootsteps AOS Patch.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espUnique Uniques.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espEli's Coffee Mod.espDead Body Collision.espHothFollower.espHothFollower UFO Patch.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.espBreezehome Firepit Removed.espCCO_Merged_Patch.espPredator Vision.espSofiaFollower.espExtended Encounters.espArgonian Access.espWindhelm Lighthouse.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espSTEP Core & Extended - Survival patch.espPP_OgmundsTomb.esphigh hrothgar overhaul.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espiActivate.espiHUD.espiNeed.espBlockSparkles.espGildergreen Regrown.espSDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.espAOS2_Merged Patch.espEquipping Overhaul.espSky Haven Temple Masters Quarters.espSkyRe_Combat.espvMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espTheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.espApple garden.espPP_WindcallerPass.espPsilocybinMushrooms.espChesko_Step418_SN.espRBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.espiNeed - Dangerous Diseases.espvwr Wet Eyes.espSTEP Extended Patch.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espModular Morrowloot Patch.espBetterQuestObjectives - MergedPatch.espFarmhouseChimneysMerged.espBashed Patch, 0.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp I used TESVEdit to merge a lot of patches and reduce my plugin count. I will readily post what each of these merged patches contains. I tweaked a few .ini settings too, following these resources: Skyrim Configuration Settings, Skyrim Graphics Guide, Skyrim Stability Guide.Skyrim.ini:[General]sLanguage = ENGLISHuExterior Cell Buffer = 36uGridsToLoad = 5sIntroSequence = bBorderRegionsEnabled = 1fFlickeringLightDistance = 7000.0iNumHWThreads=4iHWThread6=5iHWThread5=5iHWThread4=5iHWThread3=4iHWThread2=4iHWThread1=4iAIThread2HWThread=5iAIThread1HWThread=3iRenderingThread2HWThread=1iRenderingThread1HWThread=0bUseThreadedMorpher=1bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1bUseThreadedTempEffects=1bMultiThreadMovement=1bDisableAllGore=0bTrackAllDeaths=1bPreemptivelyUnloadCells=0sIntroMovie=sMainMenuMovieIntro= [Display]fShadowLODMaxStartFade = 1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade = 2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade = 7000.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048bAllowScreenShot = 0fSunUpdateThreshold = 2.0000fSunShadowUpdateTime = 0.1000iPresentInterval = 1bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1bShadowsOnGrass=0bActorSelfShadowing=0bMTRendering=0bForcePow2Textures=0bForce1XShaders=0bAllow30Shaders=1bAllow20HairShader=1bDoTestHDR=0bDo30VFog=1bDoTallGrassEffect=1bDoTexturePass=1bDoSpecularPass=1bDoDiffusePass=1bDoAmbientPass=1bUseRefractionShader=1bUse Shaders=1bUseSunbeams=1fMipBias=0.0000bSimpleLighting=0fDecalLifetime=30.0000bPerPixelLighting=0fDefaultWorldFOV = 81.0fDefault1stPersonFOV = 81.0fDefaultFOV = 81.0 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds = 6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds = 8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime = 3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime = 1.0 [Grass]bAllowCreateGrass = 1bAllowLoadGrass = 0iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure = 7bGrassPointLighting=0iMinGrassSize = 80 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning = One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive]sResourceArchiveList =Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsasResourceArchiveList2 = Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsabInvalidateOlderFiles =0SInvalidationFile =ArchiveInvalidation.txt [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult = 0.0fMagnetismLookingMult = 0.0f1PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7f3PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7bDismemberOneLimb=0bForceNPCsUseAmmo=1 [Camera]fOverShoulderAddY=0.0fOverShoulderPosZ=18.0fOverShoulderPosX=0.0fOverShoulderCombatAddY=0.0fOverShoulderCombatPosZ=24.0fOverShoulderCombatPosX=0.0fOverShoulderHorseAddY=-72.0fOverShoulderHorsePosZ=50.0fOverShoulderHorsePosX=35.0fActorFadeOutLimit=-100fMouseWheelZoomSpeed=60.0f1st3rdSwitchDelay=0.95iHorseTransitionMillis=001 [Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS = 500.0bEnableLogging = 1bEnableTrace = 1bLoadDebugInformation = 1bEnableProfiling = 1iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes = 76800iMinMemoryPageSize = 256iMaxMemoryPageSize = 512fUpdateBudgetMS = 1.2fExtraTaskletBudgetMS = 1.2 [Water]bReflectLODObjects =1bReflectLODLand =1bReflectSky =1bReflectLODTrees =1 [backgroundLoad]bLoadBackgroundFaceGen = 1bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel = 1bBackgroundLoadLipFiles = 1bUseBackgroundFileLoader = 1bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1 [interface]fBookOpenTime = 500.0fSafeZoneX=10fSafeZoneY=10 fSafeZoneXWide=10 fSafeZoneYWide=10 [Actor]fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist = 12288.0000 [Trees]bForceFullDetail=0bEnableTreeAnimations=1 [TerrainManager]bKeepLowDetailTerrain=0bDisplayCloudLOD=1 [Controls]bMouseAcceleration=0 [saveGame]bAllowProfileTransfer=1bUseSaveGameHistory=1 [Animation]bMultiThreadBoneUpdate=1 [Decals]bDecalMultithreaded=1bForceAllDecals=1 [imagespace]bDoRadialBlur=1 SkyrimPrefs.ini:[General]fBrightLightColorB = 1.0000fBrightLightColorG = 1.0000fBrightLightColorR = 1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent =-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging =0sLanguage=ENGLISHuExterior Cell Buffer=36 [imagespace]bDoDepthOfField =1iRadialBlurLevel = 1 [Display]iBlurDeferredShadowMask =1fInteriorShadowDistance =3000.0000fShadowDistance =2500iShadowMapResolutionSecondary = 1024iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048iShadowSplitCount = 2iMaxAnisotropy =0fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd =4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart =3600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000fGamma =1.0000fDecalLOD2 =1500.0000fDecalLOD1 =1000.0000fSpecularLODStartFade =2000fShadowLODStartFade =200.0000fLightLODStartFade =3500iTexMipMapMinimum =0iTexMipMapSkip =0iWaterMultiSamples =0iMultiSample =4iShadowMode =4bTreesReceiveShadows =1bDrawLandShadows =1bFull Screen =1iSize H =1080iSize W =1920fMeshLODFadePercentDefault =1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault =256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance =2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance =2844.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist =1e+007fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist =1e+007iScreenShotIndex =2bShadowMaskZPrepass =0bMainZPrepass =0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame =25iMaxDecalsPerFrame =100bFloatPointRenderTarget =0sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1GB"bFXAAEnabled =0iShadowMapResolution =1024fShadowBiasScale =0.3iShadowMaskQuarter =4iAdapter = 0iPresentInterval = 0iShadowFilter =4bTransparencyMultisampling =0bDrawShadows =1bShadowsOnGrass =1bDeferredShadows =1fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=7000.0bAllowScreenshot=1 [Grass]b30GrassVS =0fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0 [MAIN]bGamepadEnable =1bCrosshairEnabled =1fHUDOpacity =1.0000bSaveOnPause =1bSaveOnTravel =1bSaveOnWait =1bSaveOnRest =1fSkyCellRefFadeDistance =250000.0000 [GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers =1bShowQuestMarkers =1iDifficulty =2 [interface]bDialogueSubtitles =0bGeneralSubtitles =0fMouseCursorSpeed =1.0000bShowCompass =1 [Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity =1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity =0.0250bAlwaysRunByDefault =1bInvertYValues =0bGamePadRumble =1bMouseAcceleration = 0bUseKinect =0 [Particles]iMaxDesired =750 [saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins =5.0000 [AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume =1.0000fVal7 =1.0000uID7 =1979916470fVal6 =1.0000uID6 =3954fVal5 =1.0000uID5 =2064013425fVal4 =1.0000uID4 =2063599709fVal3 =1.0000uID3 =94881fVal2 =0.0000uID2 =466532fVal1 =0.8000uID1 =554685fVal0 =1.0000uID0 =1007612 [Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance =262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance =32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance =16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance =9000.0000 [TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance =75000fBlockMaximumDistance =250000fBlockLevel1Distance =70000fBlockLevel0Distance =35000fSplitDistanceMult =1.5bShowLODInEditor =1 [NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha = 0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha = 0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha = 0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha = 1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha = 0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha = 0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha = 0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha = 0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha = 0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight = 25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert = 10.0000fEdgeThickness = 10.0000fPointSize = 2.5000 [Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees =1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender =20 [Decals]uMaxDecals =1000bDecals =1bSkinnedDecals =1uMaxSkinDecals =100uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor =60bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry = 1 [LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects =15.000fLODFadeOutMultItems =15.000fLODFadeOutMultActors =15.000fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell =1.0000 [Launcher]bEnableFileSelection = 1bShowAllResolutions = 1uLastAspectRatio =3 [blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange = 0 [blurShader]bUseBlurShader = 0 [Water]iWaterReflectHeight =1024iWaterReflectWidth =1024bUseWaterDisplacements =1bUseWaterRefractions =1bUseWaterReflections =1bUseWaterDepth =1 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 [Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0bEnableLogging=1bEnableTrace=1bLoadDebugInformation=1 And enblocal.ini:[PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=falseProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=trueUseDefferedRendering=falseIgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=trueEnableOcclusionCulling=trueEnableZPrepass=false [MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0 [MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=trueReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=falseDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=512VideoMemorySizeMb=3926EnableCompression=trueAutodetectVideoMemorySize=true [WINDOW]ForceBorderless=trueForceBorderlessFullscreen=true [ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16ForceLodBias=falseLodBias=0.0AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=falseEnableVSync=trueVSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=falseFPSLimit=60.0 [iNPUT]//shiftKeyCombination=16//f12KeyUseEffect=123//homeKeyFPSLimit=36//num / 106KeyShowFPS=106//print screenKeyScreenshot=44//enterKeyEditor=13//f4KeyFreeVRAM=115 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=falseQuality=1DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=trueEnableTemporalAA=falseEnableSubPixelAA=trueEnableTransparencyAA=false [FIX]FixGameBugs=trueFixParallaxBugs=trueFixParallaxTerrain=falseFixAliasedTextures=trueIgnoreLoadingScreen=trueIgnoreInventory=trueFixTintGamma=trueRemoveBlur=falseFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=trueFixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE]EnableLongExposureMode=falseTime=1.0BlendMax=0.0 enbseries.ini is left as is (default). For those whose eyes aren't tired yet, i have Papyrus logs. I won't post them now though as they don't seem much help (to me). They all end on something different, so i don't think it was the last call that crashed the application. If they are wanted, give a shout. As you can probably see, i've put a lot of time into this before coming here, so i really need a guru or some such to help me. Even if you straight-up tell me that there's too much going on under the hood, i'm still going to have questions.Sorry about all the links, but citing my references is what i'm used to.It's midnight in my time zone, so i'm going to bed now, and i have an exam tomorrow, so don't be offended if i only get back here twelve hours from now. Godspeed and hi-ho silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (1GB VRAM) <---1GB Vram might be holding you back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Do you have any texture mods installed (they usually don't show up in your load order)? Either way, I agree with Moto that it sounds like you're running into trouble when you cross cell boundaries. Also, this may not be relevant, but I noticed in your ENBLocal that you have EnableProxyLibrary=false, but you have an alternate proxy library listed. Are you not using it, or did you for get to set the above to true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 I suspected as much about the graphics card. Using Skyrim Performance Monitor, it tells me i'm almost always using 99% of my GPU, and all 1024MB of VRAM. Will the game just crash so easily when it can't load all the graphics?All the texture mods i have installed should be listed in my mod list, which is different to my plugin list. I did optimise all of them, but that may not be enough. Will dropping resolution do anything? Playing on 1366*768 doesn't seem to change anything. P.S. Could a moderator or admin delete my extra posts, please? I didn't mean to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Also, i have absolutely no idea what an alternate proxy library is or does, forgive me. Will it help and what do i do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones177 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 HiLowering your resolution will bring down your GPU usage & may up your fps but will not allow you to play longer. More Vram will.I think you are doing a brilliant job at modding your game with what resources you have. Back in 2013 I had a 2gb 670 & could only play for about 10 minutes (I have lots of NPC mods). I replaced it with a 4gb 680 & my play time went up to 6 hours. Later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 From what you're describing, jones177, it seems like the card can only load a certain total amount before it kicks it. Surely it's more fluid than that, loading and unloading as it comes (screen panning, character walking, etc.)?I also have quite a few NPC mods, but aren't NPC's more taxing on the CPU via scripting, rather than the GPU (assuming largely vanilla textures and meshes)? I think, short of getting a brand spanking new card, i'm going to have to go through my mod list on nexus and look for performance versions. Sigh...Pretty textures are so nice though. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Also, i have absolutely no idea what an alternate proxy library is or does, forgive me. Will it help and what do i do?You have the following in your enblocal:[PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=falseProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll Do you remember what "other_d3d9.dll" was for? Part of an old ENB or sweetfx setup? A version of Sheeson's Memory Patch? Is the file still in your Skyrim directory? From what you're describing, jones177, it seems like the card can only load a certain total amount before it kicks it. Surely it's more fluid than that, loading and unloading as it comes (screen panning, character walking, etc.)?I also have quite a few NPC mods, but aren't NPC's more taxing on the CPU via scripting, rather than the GPU (assuming largely vanilla textures and meshes)?NPC's can be quite taxing on your video card if they are visible because, not only does it have to render them, but they are moving which really ups the load on your GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 only matters if they need to run SweetFX or something...don't confuse the issue. Not running a proxy library won't CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 only matters if they need to run SweetFX or something...don't confuse the issue. Not running a proxy library won't CTD.Sorry, Site Bot has been eating my posts tonight... GFX 1GB...this is the biggest bottleneck for you. You can try using HialgoBoost and ENB to negotiate an adequate render, but...upgrading would be better. Something with 2gb+ and say equivalent to 1000 cuda cores (not really cores...just pretend it's a real measure of power). Surely it's more fluid than that, loading and unloading as it comes (screen panning, character walking, etc.)?Skyrim is not a game engine that uses culling for efficiency. There's a mod that places culling markers for indoor performance, but there's not such a thing for Exterior. its a demanding engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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