Yizzin Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Greetings, I thought it was impossible but after a monstrosity amount of test I can safely say that my Skyrim is beautiful and 100% playable with no repulsive CTD (yeahi) But there's one last thing I know I can do to dramatically improve the look of my game. Yes, I'm talking about tweaking Ugridstoload to 7,9, or 11. First, I've got a pretty decent computer: -i7 4790k @4,4Ghz-GTX 970 Gigabyte @OC1450mhz-Vengeance 16GB of ram 1600mhz As I said, my game is 100% playable with no CTD, I've got like 120mods running, a lot of textures and some other things. But whenever I tweak my Ugridstoload value to a higher one, let's say 9, eventually my game crashes. I stress the game with console commands "tcl" and "player.setav speedmult 1500" and I just test how much time it takes before my game breaks, and yes, it breaks, and the reason is not other than Ugridstoload, which it's quite strange due to the fact that I'm using SSME. I've tried solutions such as "Real ugrids to load solution" link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/48387/? and "Stable ugrids" http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/41592/?, I still get CTD when I tweak my Ugridstoload. So my question is why? there are people claiming that they've played for hundreds of hours with Ugrids to 7 or 9, and they get no issues. At this point, do you play with Ugrids? Have you had any issues? How you made your ugrids stable? Thanks for your comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I never had any stability issues when I increased it ( I never tried it above 9) but I did have a problem with save game bloat after I did. My saves started running 30-40mb at like level 25, which is too high for my setup. I did start having ctd issues from that, the large saves, but it was caused by changing my ugrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tejano2828 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I am sure you aware that the higher the number the more memory you need.. Skyrim caps off at a certain point and crashes try this memory fix Gopher talksabout it and I have been using it as as long as you have lots of ram you shouldn't haveany issues. I believe I am running Ugrids 7 my game runs very stable with 255 mods here is the link..should check out his other ugridstoload video very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubal Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Dyndolod kind of makes higher grids obsolete and at no real cost to performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yizzin Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) @tejano2828: I have that patch since I start modding my game. I just wrote that above... that is called SSME. I saw that video like 3 times, I know how it works, my game crashes, and when I track the memory usage with the .log file it doesn't reach 512mb, so it shouldn't crash, but it does. @Old Hand: My problem is not related to my savegame, it works fine. But if I increase my Ugrids to 9 my game will crash, otherwise It won't crash. @Shubal: I have that mod installed. Although it's good it's not so great comparing it to Ugrids, I've tested it and see it by myself. Anyways, I won't die for not increasing my ugrids, but it could be a nice feature to improve, my computer can handle that and more. Edited June 22, 2015 by Yizzin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I've always used Stable ugrids to load. As I said, my game didn't crash because of increasing my ugrids settings per se, and to be honest, I'm not 100% sure my increased ugrids was the cause of my troubles, it was one of several things I did to stabilize my game. I also didn't feel that the increased ugrids setting made that much difference in the way my game looked, so I put it back to 5. But as always, that is a subjective thing. I really don't see why you should be having any trouble with your setup, you have a superior machine to mine and I could pull it off; unless you are already taxing your rig with lots of HD textures and enb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivala Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 What I learned from a few modders is that a lot of mess has to do with script processing or memory filling up. With more grids loading, your machine has to do more, and if the scripts can't be handled correctly you can get savegame bloat and/or memory is full and you get CTD. There was a definite correlation for instance with CTDs and savegame bloat when I used ugrids on 7 or 9 and using convenient horses (script heavy when I used in January) So I always check if mods are lean in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferferga Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You need to modify your memory patch through SKSE to extend the memory engine. If you don´t do this, you will crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yudhi108 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yizzin, will you please post your load order? Good job on getting a good game going with no CTD. I've got a great game going but too man CTD's. I think it's the SL mods. It was the first major build I did that was pretty successful. I'm sure I could do a better build now but I'm too lazy. This build does work just not as good as I want. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 3 3 Dawnguard.esm 4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 5 5 HearthFires.esm 6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 7 7 Dragonborn.esm 8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 9 9 Falskaar.esm 10 a Wyrmstooth.esp 11 b JSwords.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm 15 f SexLab.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 12 ApachiiHairMales.esm 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 20 14 RaceCompatibility.esm 21 15 SexLabAroused.esm 22 16 Evil Lair of Hydra.esm 23 17 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 24 18 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 27 1b SummerWear.esm 28 1c HighResTexturePack01.esp 29 1d HighResTexturePack02.esp 30 1e HighResTexturePack03.esp 31 1f Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 32 20 skyforgedWeapons.esp 33 21 SexLab Submit.esp 34 22 Alduin Bikini.esp 35 23 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp 36 24 Athletics Training.esp 37 25 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp 38 26 Locational Damage.esp 39 27 BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp 40 28 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 41 29 AutoRechargeWeapons.esp 42 2a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 43 2b BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp 44 2c CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp 45 2d SexLabSquirt.esp 46 2e CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp 47 2f CannabisUpdate.esp 48 30 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp 49 31 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 50 32 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 51 33 DHuntress.esp 52 34 RaceMenu.esp 53 35 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 54 36 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 55 37 Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp 56 38 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 57 39 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 58 3a SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 59 3b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 60 3c ELFX - Exteriors.esp 61 3d ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 62 3e SkyRe_Main.esp 63 3f NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp 64 40 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 65 41 Henrys Ring of Light.esp 66 42 _BEEMod001.esp 67 43 FlameAtronachArmor.esp 68 44 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 69 45 DeadlyCombat.esp 70 46 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp 71 47 HitStop.esp 72 48 TGBowsDrawFasterv2-0.esp 73 49 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp 74 4a RealisticWaterTwo.esp 75 4b ELFXEnhancer.esp 76 4c RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp 77 4d MoreBanditCamps.esp 78 4e OBIS.esp 79 4f Immersive Weapons.esp 80 50 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 81 51 ElementalArrows.esp 82 52 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp 83 53 Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp 84 54 Birdsofskyrim.esp 85 55 HDT Havok Object.esp 86 56 OBISDB.esp 87 57 Fudou Myouou.esp 88 58 GattiBondage1.esp 89 59 LoversVictim.esp 90 5a Headtracking.esp 91 5b CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp 92 5c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 93 5d sr_FillHerUp.esp 94 5e Strap.esp 95 5f RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp 96 60 Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 97 61 iHUD.esp 98 62 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp 99 63 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp100 64 Latex Armor.esp101 65 TKcombat.esp102 66 Loadout.esp103 67 Magicka Sabers.esp104 68 Vivid Landscapes.esp105 69 Moss Rocks.esp106 6a RaceMenuOverlays.esp107 6b Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp108 6c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp109 6d CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp110 6e KKFur.esp111 6f FullBootForKKSA.esp112 70 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp113 71 Captured Dreams.esp114 72 City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp115 73 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp116 74 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp117 75 Hunterborn.esp118 76 GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp119 77 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp120 78 RND_USKP-Patch.esp121 79 sextoys-calyps-2.esp122 7a Akavari Katana Re_borne.esp123 7b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp124 7c RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp125 7d Run For Your Lives.esp126 7e Cloaks.esp127 7f DD - FtM - OBIS patch.esp128 80 SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp129 81 AliciaPainSlut.esp130 82 CinematicFireFX.esp131 83 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp132 84 EleidonWard.esp133 85 DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp134 86 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp135 87 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp136 88 SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp137 89 CerwidenCompanion.esp138 8a Devious Deviants.esp139 8b ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp140 8c Monli.esp141 8d The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp142 8e Chesko_Frostfall.esp143 8f RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp144 90 CommunityCollege.esp145 91 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp146 92 ScopedBows.esp147 93 SexLab Cumshot.esp148 94 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp149 95 SexLab Warmbodies.esp150 96 vDynamicDifficulty.esp151 97 SexLabMatchMaker.esp152 98 SkyUI.esp153 99 Dual Sheath Redux.esp154 9a SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp155 9b SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp156 9c SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp157 9d SofiaFollower.esp158 9e APPS.esp159 9f SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp160 a0 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp161 a1 MoreBanditCamps - SexSlaves.esp162 a2 SummerWearSA.esp163 a3 CompanionArissa.esp164 a4 SOS - Shop.esp165 a5 Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp166 a6 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp167 a7 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp168 a8 Elewin Sunglasses.esp169 a9 FNISspells.esp170 aa Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp171 ab Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp172 ac visarraoforgrimmar.esp173 ad NordicCooking_RND.esp174 ae SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp175 af BlackSacramentArmor.esp176 b0 Cannabis.esp177 b1 SkyRe_Combat.esp178 b2 elementalshield.esp179 b3 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp180 b4 CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp181 b5 LadyBrooksie.esp182 b6 Apocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp183 b7 LustmordVampireArmor.esp184 b8 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp185 b9 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp186 ba The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp187 bb TIS_Spell_ManaShield.esp188 bc TriRings of Powers v1.0.esp189 bd ZazResources.esp190 be Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp191 bf WetandCold.esp192 c0 Zipsuit.esp193 c1 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp194 c2 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp195 c3 PuppetMaster.esp196 c4 When Vampires Attack.esp197 c5 AlynShirArmor.esp198 c6 R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp199 c7 R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp200 c8 EdhildilsWitchDoctor.esp201 c9 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp202 ca Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp203 cb Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp204 cc Bashed Patch, 0.esp205 cd ASIS-Dependency.esp206 ce Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp207 cf ASIS.esp208 d0 ReProccer.esp209 d1 DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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