[FO3] [MMM] Game crashes whenever a custom animal dies, such as a Wild Boar.

[ChaChaLoco]

Not sure why this happens, I thought my load order was correct but obviously I am missing something. I have attached the NMM export file to this post.

 

Thanks in advance for any help that you provide,

 

~ChaChaLoco.

[Arkngt]

Might not be the cause of your issue, but you should load the Blackened patch later, preferably after the Merged Patch, and also exclude it when building the Merged Patch so:

 

Merged Patch.esp

Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp [Version 3.3]

You should use the Paradox Ignition Merged version of MMM, then there's no need for these:

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=0

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=0

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=0

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp=0

As you control that via the ingame menu - and the last one is taken care of by the Blackened Patch.

Also, use only one of these:

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=0

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=0

BTW, doesn't the =0 mean that those plugins aren't activated?

[ChaChaLoco]

Okay I will try your suggestion regarding the merged patch. I am using the Paradox Ignition version of MMM, the =0 does indicate that it is not active. I simply haven't gotten around to deleting those .esp files.

Edited June 21, 2015 by ChaChaLoco

[ChaChaLoco]

Just tried your suggestion, didn't fix the issue in my current save game. I'm going to quickly start a new game using one of the FWE alt starts and see if I can replicate my crash.

[ChaChaLoco]

Okay, so started a new game as a Talon Company Merc, ran around until I found a Wild Boar. Killed it no problem, this was with your suggested load order edits. Reverted to my original load order, then did the same thing and also killed the Wild Boar with no issue.

So it must be something else? I should mention that I get this crash when loading a save game right outside Megaton, a Wild Boar spawns (even though it wasn't there when I saved the game) and the merchants around Megaton start shooting it (including Stockholm from the birds nest above Megaton). When the boar dies or I start move towards it I crash. It's hard to tell what exactly is causing the crash, it might be EVE?

[ChaChaLoco]

Another update, I think the problem is EVE. I loaded up the aforementioned save, quickly opened the console and turned off AI processing ("tai" without quotes), to prevent the NPCs outside Megaton killing the boar. I then killed the boar myself, no problem. I re-enabled the AI, also no problem. I then attacked some of the NPCs outside Megaton myself, and just as I was about to die the game crashed. I think it was crashing because I was about to be disintegrated. Going to give myself some energy weapons and test again.

[ChaChaLoco]

The problem is not EVE. I really have no idea what it could be. Does the game create crash logs I can look at or something? :/

[M48A5]

The problem is not EVE. I really have no idea what it could be. Does the game create crash logs I can look at or something? :/

I have found that you have made a few posts about problems with the game. I am going to provide you with two links that might help you.

 

1. Installing Fallout 3 with Windows 7, 8 and XP: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1465357-installing-fallout-3-with-windows-78-and-xp/

 

Regarding the .ini changes. Even though you have a dual core processor, make the changes anyway.

 

2. Fallout Modding and you. : http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you/ Advice on modding and mod testing.

[ChaChaLoco]

Thanks M4, but I have already done all of that. I installed the game and GFWL correctly, I made all the necessary .ini changes for Windows 7 (and some other ones from the tweak guide, albeit conservatively). I followed Gopher's modding videos in setting up my mods, deviating where necessary to account for relevant updates to the mods. Everything in my load order + NMCs performance texture pack is the full extent of everything I've installed. I also use FOSE (duh), the 4GB LAA extender (edited the executable, after backing it up of course), fallout stutter remover (capped the fps at 60 to fix engine quirks), and I run the game through the fake full-screen borderless window executable.

 

All in all, the game runs fine. Got through Vault 101 on a clean save without issue (bar one bug where Jonas' body disappeared), and got out into the Wasteland no problem. I only get this crash in this very specific instance when I load this particular save, and it's killing me that I can't isolate the cause. I think I will just roll back to a previous save to avoid this, fortunately I won't lose too much progress. You should know though that my game runs very smoothly: I loaded an earlier save, used console commands to max out my SPECIAL and Skills, toggle god mode, give myself a Minigun with ammunition, and then proceeded to rampage across the Wasteland for about an hour, killing and blowing up everything in sight (including a raider camp of 15+ raider NPCs, and various vehicles) without a single crash. At most, and only in the most intensive situations (such as when I blew up vehicles while 15+ NPCs attacked me for spray a Minigun), I lagged.

Edited June 21, 2015 by ChaChaLoco