Ferryt Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 That's what "DebugLog(Python2.6).bat" does, but I tried it manually, anyway. Same result: A window flashes for an instant and nothing is written to the log file. The only thing I can think of, now, is that I installed Wrye Bash to its own directory within c:/Games/Oblivion to segregate it from everything else that wants to install alongside the vanilla Oblivion files. That shouldn't be an issue -- at least I wouldn't think that it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 The only thing I can think of, now, is that I installed Wrye Bash to its own directory within c:/Games/Oblivion to segregate it from everything else that wants to install alongside the vanilla Oblivion files. That shouldn't be an issue -- at least I wouldn't think that it would be. :wallbash: Wrye Bash MUST go in the folder that the installer puts it in: \Oblivion\mopy\. It cannot go anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 [...]Wrye Bash MUST go in the folder that the installer puts it in: \Oblivion\mopy\. It cannot go anywhere else. Well that's not completely accurate, but for the common user it should be followed. To elaborate -- In the Bash.ini you can alter the path to where Wrye Bash is installed and literally install Wrye Bash anywhere, even a different drive, and it will work exactly as it should. But again, since most people aren't even aware that Wrye Bash has an INI that can be customized, installing Wrye Bash to the Oblivion folder is recommended. Next...[...]It will NOT work for you properly if you use Steam like I do. Steam gets confused.[...] All mods and modding utilities work just fine with the STEAM version of Oblivion. STEAM never has been, nor ever will be, the reason for modding issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryt Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Hickory and Smooth613: I happen to trust both of you. However, now you two have me confused since you disagree on something as obvious as choosing an option which the installer gives (namely, installing Wrye Bash into a folder other than just dropping all its component directories into the Oblivion folder). I don't like clutter. I like things to be organized so that I can tell what's going on with just a glance and there are already too many things that feel they can just add all their parts and pieces directly into the Oblivion folder without segregating them into their own directories. That's why I did what I did, and I did it entirely through the options given during the installation process. I moved nothing at all manually. As for Steam, I've pretty much given up on Steam as a way to get games, because I've had trouble with other Steam-distributed software in the past. My Oblivion is a store-bought GOTY edition, so that's not the issue. If you guys think it might help then I'll un-install and then re-install the whole kit and kaboodle, although I suppose I could just manually move Wrye Bash directly into the Oblivion folder and manually alter the .ini to reflect this change. Keep in mind, too, that I'm on Win7 with an x64 machine. Just getting Oblivion to run without instantly crashing to desktop when I started a game was a nightmare, and to make things even more confusing, this installation (number three or four -- I can't remember exactly) is precisely like my first failed attempt with respect to permissions and emulation modes. I could be running into some incompatibilities with that, I suppose. Or, maybe my computer is just infested with gremlins whose sole purpose in existence is to make my life "interesting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telyn Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Ferryt, I would agree with Smooth here that having Bash. ini elsewhere can be made to work, and you are correct that the installer gives the option, but I think it needlessly complicates matters. BTW, I did not have to use any compatability modes on Oblivion or any of the Oblivion tools. I, too, have win 7 64 bit. You should not have to use any emulation modes. I think the issue here is permissions. Since I gave everything in the Oblivion directory full privs, I have not had any problems running Oblivion or any of the tools whatsoever. I had tried everything else, and I was going through all the read mes of all my mods looking for conflicts when one of the read mes (forget which) mentioned doing that if you have Windows7 permission problems. It was not one of the options I had seen before (usually turn off UAC, move Oblivion to Games, etc). So I tried it, not expecting a miracle and lo and behold, it actually worked. Smooth, my issue with Steam is that it sometimes decides to redownload when it thinks you have a corrupt/missing game and all sorts of weird things cause it to do that. That's what I mean by Steam getting "confused." Moving Oblivion to the games folder caused it to attempt to reinstall the entire game for me. When I installed the patches for the DLC it tried to redownload some of them. I am grateful nonetheless for Steam, because it is my best option. My life circumstances make digital downloads the way to go. I can live with a few nuisances. For many people it's a godsend. I am one of them. I only mentioned Steam because it does sometimes try to "repair" things it thinks are missing. You are correct that all mods and scripting work fine with Steam, unlike the Impulse version, which is encrypted. Bought that first because it did NOT mention this. Had to get it again from Steam. Not knocking Steam. It just has a few little quirks that could possibly apply here if the poster had had a Steam copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 There are too many cooks in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telyn Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I'll bow out then. Wouldn't have posted except the problem the OP had sounded exactly like what I went through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryt Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 There are too many cooks in this thread. Maybe, but sometimes more heads are better than one ... or a few. I keep trying new things every time someone mentions anything about getting Wrye Bash to run, regardless of where I read it. So far nothing's getting me any closer to a solution, and I'm hesitant about un-installing and re-installing unless that becomes a last resort. Telyn, my Oblivion folder has all the permissions I can give it. I really can't tell you (at least not on this public forum) just how much I loathe Win7's implementation of user security. One of the first things I did on my Vista-based laptop was to disable UAC. I'm savvy enough to be able to protect my computer from malicious software and I don't have to worry about anyone in my household fiddling with my machines. Sadly, there appears to be no way to inform Win7 that nobody but me is going to be using my computer and I don't need it holding my virtual hand during day-to-day use. The emulation mode issue I mentioned because, during my first failed attempts to get Oblivion up and running, I did manage to get at least the main menu to run by running the launcher in Vista (Service Pack 2) mode, when it wouldn't run any other way. It still instantly crashed when I tried to play the game. Oddly, I'm not using emulation right now and I have a stable install. Like I said -- gremlins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 There are too many cooks in this thread. Maybe, but sometimes more heads are better than one ... or a few. Only when the issue at hand doesn't get clouded. The OP has been effectively sidelined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDratik Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 So I moved my Oblivion folder and I gave everything in my Oblivion folder full permission and I still can't get Wrye Bash to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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