Dark0ne Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 From http://www.abenteuer-mittelerde.de/ : Dear Middle Earth Enthusiasts!Today we want to announce a very drastic step in the development of the vision "Adventure Middle Earth": AME is getting frozen.The technical limitations of the publicly available Construction Set makes it impossible to realise AME for TES IV: Oblivion with the planned size. Based on the fact that we could already implement our whole landmass in Morrowind we did not think it could be a problem for Oblivion. Just when rumours spread that there is a limitation of 6x6 Quads (1 Quad = 1024 cells) in Oblivion we started testing the whole size of the heightmap instead of testing it step by step as we had done before. The result was shocking: As soon as the amount of the quads surpassed 20 the Construction Set crashed, when trying it in one rush and also with parts of 10 quads each. So altogether nothing above 20 Quads can be imported to Oblivion. Additionally for these 20 Quads no LOD-Terrain (LOD is what you see in the distance) can be created anymore - this is only possible with a maximum of 16 quads. As we had planned Adventure Middle Earth with 225 quads, the realisation is impossible due to an ever crashing Construction Set. Even a request for help at Bethesda did not result in anything. This does not astonish us too much as the Community's calls for a new Version of the CS, which is used for the Pay-PlugIns, were unheard. We have tried everything, tested as much as possible and searched for solutions - but it is simply impossible. We hope you can understand this sad but inevitable step.Now, after about four years, we could of course review the past time and wallow in memories, but we won't, as AME is not cancelled and thus we rather look hopefully into the future. AME is a vision we want to realise for ourselves, and to do this the way we want we accept waiting for some more years which we will use to look for a new technical basis and to extend our skills. We will also proceed with some work on AME. So today we want to say goodbye to all those who have eagerly awaited Middle Earth in Oblivion and whom we have disappointed. But we also want to invite all those who share our vision to visit the forums from time to time, because it will definitely go on. Time is not yet ripe for such a Middle Earth, but some day it will be, and with today's progress rather tomorrow than the day after. As a bridgeover for this time we have a composition from our musician who has already transferred our vision into a melody: Er-Chorf - The One Ring. I believe the line.. We hope you can understand this sad but inevitable step Pretty much summed it up. It WAS inevitable since those ARE the restraints of the CS; hence why TR is doing landmasses in different .esm's (or something, basically they're splitting it up so you have to load different files for different masses). Inevitable indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Povuholo Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Who is TR? The first TC down... Unfortunately more will follow. I hope Project Serpent doesn't. Certainly. Players have the ability to construct their own worlds completely separate in every way from the main world of Oblivion. Though there are theoretical and practical limits to the size of the world you can create, the ability for modders to create worlds several times the size of Cyrodiil is there.So altogether nothing above 20 Quads can be imported to Oblivion. Is that 'several times the size of Cyrodiil'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 Oblivion was 6 quads or something, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Ohh, that's a shame. Not terribly surprising though, as you say. Creating something of such immense scale is going to be extremely difficult with your own engine, let alone working off someone else's with a poorly updated editor. 225 Quads, sheesh... that's *grabs a calculator* 230,400 cells. Overly ambitious much? o.o; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Povuholo Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 225 Quads, sheesh... that's *grabs a calculator* 230,400 cells. Overly ambitious much? o.o;*click* 78 cells of barren land. *click* an orc army. Only 230322 cells to go!You wouldn't expect all 230,400 cells to be handcrafted and full of details no?*click* Ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerpentofShadow Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Who is TR? The first TC down... Unfortunately more will follow. I hope Project Serpent doesn't. This is sad news. Don't worry though Povuholo. While PS is going to be bigger then Oblivion's landmass, it's not going to be quite as large as the Adventure Middle Earth TC, so we should be OK. If not, we'll figure something out. By TR do you mean Tamriel (sp?) Rebuilt? If not then i'm not sure either what TR means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Povuholo Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 By TR do you mean Tamriel (sp?) Rebuilt? If not then i'm not sure either what TR means.No that should be it. Why didn't I think of that... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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