sunshinenbrick Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Good to hear collaboration has won over :yes: Side note: On the point of what modders can do regarding the imposition of a DRM paid mod system, is not nothing. Some modders (and teams) are easily equally, if not sometimes more, talented than many game developers. There is a great deal of negotiation in the actual choosing to buy into and mod a game, or not. I am not against paid modding per se, but rather pro choice and anti exploitation (forcing people to buy half finished games and buy into offline subscriptions for said half baked game, or at least not selling it as such). Freeing up the watchful eye on donation parameters is one possible innovation, or a curated platform that remains open but allows the best to climb the ladder through promotional sweepstakes and other such like avenues, is another. These ways into the industry are already there and always have been but there is a chance to create a highly productive and diverse environment while actually not detracting from a developer's interests, profits or public relations - all of which are connected in the long run. It is the case right now that the developer has a choice of direction to take. But as we know, piracy in some shape or form will not be easily stopped. If the game is good enough and the mods go all DRM then it will not stop the eventual flood gates of work around operations. Keeping things open and embracing the changing landscape will not only lessen the impact of the illegal piracy black hole (because the 'piracy' i.e. modification would be legal), but it will also ensure that even if the underlying game is a bit pants then the modding scene will be there to rescue the developer's from the crosshairs of their stakeholders (who most likely don't play the games - but rather play WoW with spreadsheets and actual people, like in the Paygate clusterf**k) A very interesting thread and totally agree on not letting the childish bickering drown out the slow tide of mutual and mature debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psijonica Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We already allowed mods that were based/relied on mods hosted on LL, so long as the mod hosted here did not violate any UK laws, so not much is going to change in regards to new files being uploaded that requires frameworks hosted on LL. A website that promotes bestiality is not against UK laws? Umm... ok. :ermm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We already allowed mods that were based/relied on mods hosted on LL, so long as the mod hosted here did not violate any UK laws, so not much is going to change in regards to new files being uploaded that requires frameworks hosted on LL. A website that promotes bestiality is not against UK laws? Umm... ok. :ermm: Well our Prime Minister had sex with a pig, so... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madpaddy Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We already allowed mods that were based/relied on mods hosted on LL, so long as the mod hosted here did not violate any UK laws, so not much is going to change in regards to new files being uploaded that requires frameworks hosted on LL. A website that promotes bestiality is not against UK laws? Umm... ok. :ermm: Well our Prime Minister had sex with a pig, so... :rolleyes: Ooooh touche mon ami, monsieur Prime Minister has been f*#@ing the whole country no ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishBiter Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'm going to type this out but it is not a challenge to the staff here: I think removing LL from the blocklist is a bad idea and nothing good for Nexus will come from it. :confused:I hope it works out. LL has some top notch talent. But you know people will always try to see how much they can get away with for its own sake. Then of course feign victim when they push to far. At the end of the day I just dont want my screen filled with Ps and Ds. I have a feeling that the bigger threat here is the "self-fulfilling prophecy" where people Nexus-side assume this will go badly, and react negatively any time this comes into play, which then causes much more negativity and starts to paint interactions with LL as negative, and that then blossoms into a big problem that Dark0ne then has to deal with. You know, sort of how when that new co-worker shows up in the workplace that you decide you don't like, so every time you two interact you tend to react negatively causing you to subconsciously sabatoge every interaction so you can create a situation where they're just not working out and need to be fired, when in truth what caused the problem was you subconsciously not wanting their employment to work out. So maybe let's not try lobbing accusations before people have actually done anything? To me that looks like the prophecy, and the start of fulfilling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishBiter Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 "You may link to individual pages that do not contain nudity, even if some other parts of the site you're linking to contain nudity, so long as the page itself that's being linked contains NO nudity." I have a question about this btw. Does this mean that I'm actually not allowed to link to Nexus pages that contain nudity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We already allowed mods that were based/relied on mods hosted on LL, so long as the mod hosted here did not violate any UK laws, so not much is going to change in regards to new files being uploaded that requires frameworks hosted on LL. A website that promotes bestiality is not against UK laws? Umm... ok. :ermm: Well our Prime Minister had sex with a pig, so... :rolleyes: Ooooh touche mon ami, monsieur Prime Minister has been f***ing the whole country no :wink:. I remember learning in primary school that the UK was shaped like a witch riding on a pig... how true that turned out to be!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogadin Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) ... Edited January 19, 2016 by Mogadin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeonthraen Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I'm happy to see this animosity between LL and the Nexus is finally over. Look people we have to take some words of wisdom from Totalbiscuit on this issue. If there's something you don't like then its a simple matter of NOT DOWNLOADING IT. Going to the ideal of, "well I think its offensive to me so I feel it should be denied to everyone because MY FEELS," is not being rational. Matter of fact that's being rather selfish and authoritarian; you're trying impose your own ideology because YOU think its right. I'm sorry if I offend you saying this but no; you have no right to enforce a system some people may not want it. You may think its just, but morally it isn't right. You're infringing on peoples basic ideals of choosing their own path, that almost makes you as bad as some extremist religions, forcing ideological ideals down peoples throats simply for that morbid sense of domination and control. There are some REALLY REALLY good mods at LoversLab, some are not all adult themed. Potion retextures, model retextures, performance improvements and a host of other mods that make playing Skyrim and even Fallout 4 a more enjoyable experience (and this is coming from someone who was a little disgusted with Fallout 4, I personally think its severely lacking in the RPG department). There are sections for adult and non-adult pertaining to these games. For those offended by the adult theme its a simple matter of NOT GOING THERE. It's okay to not like things, but don't assume EVERYBODY agrees with you. We're better than that people, we live in a free society to go where we wish, when we wish and with as many as we wish and whatever ideal we wish. Assuming you have the authority to tell people something is wrong and denying it to them is not only immoral, but inhuman. Edited January 19, 2016 by aeonthraen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blove Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 For those that are happy it is over its a simple matter of STOP POSTING ABOUT IT. Especially if you are going to post inanity like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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