Epicmagus Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Well, I won't lie I'm a noob mod user. Since I installed Fran's and MMM overhauls mod I get CTD as soon as I finished loading a saved game or even when I start a new one. I'm pretty sure that my load order is all screwed up due to my lack of mod using knowledge, even if I use BOSS. I would gladly show my load order, but I dont know how... Btw I use Wrye Bash as well and created the bached patch as instructed. For now, I only need a link that instruct how to show a load order list. Sorry for my lame english, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) Here's a link to a guide on how to post a load order. If it's a long list put a ["spoiler"] tag (without the quotes) before the list and a ["/spoiler"] after, again without the quotation marks. Don't forget the slash (/) inside the second tag (one of my favourite things to do). Edited March 5, 2011 by Striker879 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicmagus Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) Thank you, Striker. Here's my load order Oblivion.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmFrancesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esmCobl Main.esmTamRes.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmCyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esmTamrielTravellers.esmCM Partners.esmToaster Says Share v3.esmCobl Races TNR.espCobl Races TNR SI.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espTamRes.espAmbientTownSounds.espAndragorn_Weapons_Armors.espArmory of the Silver Dragon.espCapesandCloaks.espKDCirclets.espFrancesco's Optional Files.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espCobl Tweaks.espMart's Monster Mod for Fran.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.espMart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.espMart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espTamrielTravellers4MMM.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espKvatchAftermath.espKnightlyArmory.esp[Calsar] BetterWhiteStallionLodge.espHackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp(DC) Sutch Reborn.espDibellaTempleWillowLakeVillagev1.espRegion Revive - Lake Rumare.espTheElderCouncil.esp(DC) The Way of the Necromancer - Light.espVHBloodlines 1.2.espVillages1.1.espAFK_Weye.espRumare-AFK_Weye Patch.espPTMudwater.espHeartOftheDead.espVeronaHouse-SutchReborn patch.espFort Akatosh Redux.espLegion Ranger Addon.espP1DcandlesForKleptos.espSetEssentialActors.espFrancesco's Slower skills x1.5.espCM Partners.espTSS Custom Companion Template.espToaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.espUnique Companion.espCobl Races.espFrancesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.espCobl Silent Equip Misc.espBashed Patch, 0.espStealthArmor.espNoble Armor v4.0.espPureSteelArmor.espCSR over Unofficial Sound Fix.espDebug strealine esp.esp lol I'm pretty sure its a mess. What I dont understand is that BOSS is supposed create the correct load order. Beside I used wrye bash's [mod checker] and it didnt reported any problems, that's make me think that there's more than simply click on BOSS to get the right load order. Maybe I didnt create the bached patch correctly. Anyway, thanks in advance for your help. Edited March 5, 2011 by Epicmagus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) To order the unknown mods, add them to your userlist.txt. The armour mods can be added like so: ADD: Noble Armor v4.0.espTOP: Items N ADD: PureSteelArmor.espTOP: Items P ADD: StealthArmor.espTOP: Items S I do not know what these 2 are: CSR over Unofficial Sound Fix.espDebug strealine esp.esp so I cannot advise where to put them. Regarding your crashes, you load order does not look bad, so providing all mods have been installed correctly, and none are incompatible, you should check your Bashed Patch. Rebuild it with these things in mind (and don't DO take note of the troubleshooting remarks): When you press 'Rebuild Patch', make sure that you check the following: Merge PatchesImport ... [Go through each 'import' option and if there's a mod in the right window, check it, and the Import... option.]Cobl Catalogs [ONLY if you use Cobl]Contents CheckerLeveled ListsRace RecordsSEWorld Tests [ONLY if you have Shivering Isles installed] The Globals and Tweaks are optional, but should not be checked unless you know what you are doing, and should be left alone while you are troubleshooting. Everything else should be left unchecked UNLESS you know that you need it. Edited March 5, 2011 by Hickory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 BOSS is great, However it should be considered a starting point for ordering mods and not the end point. With well over 20,000 Oblivion mods for Oblivion on TesNexus alone there is no way they can index them all. And some mods just will not play well with some others no mater where they are in the order. For those you will just have to decide on one or the other and not use one of them. I am amazed that most mods actually can be run with all of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicmagus Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 hmm... All my tweaks were checked, maybe that was the problem. Well, I forgot to mention that I run window 7 but I turned off the UAC when I try to play oblivion, could it still cause problems even if its off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 If you blythly ticked off everything in the Bashed Patch, it's no wonder your game is crashing. Turning off UAC will not stop Windows from ghosting things from 'Program Files'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicmagus Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 Where do you suggest me to reinstall my oblivion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Reinstall anywhere outside of the program files folders. I use C:\Games\Oblivion All of my games are installed to C:\Games\gamename Including steam in C:\Games\Steam all steam games will then automatically install in the \steam sub-directory there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicmagus Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks everyone for your support, it made me progress a lot. However, I decided to make a clean reinstall of oblivion somewhere else than program files as Ben suggested me. lol my instinct made me install Francesco's overhaul first and I've found the rebel files that made me crash when i was going outside. Its "Newcreatureaddon.esm". I'm going to figure it out. Still, if anybody who is familliar with my situtation I would apreciate that you'd give me any rope about that. I have a feeling that soon I'm going to play oblivion instead of "crashblivion" :P . Thanks again guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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