MCR and other emo bands

[poopgoblin]

MCR, My Chemical Romance, whatever you may call them, they're posers.

 

They're posers who think that they're hardcore. Bull crap. If you want hardcore, listen to KoRn, MuDvAyNe, SlipKnoT, Ill Nino, anything really, except other emo bands. Mind you, if they weren't such hardcore posers, i wouldn't really care what they did. I listen to almost all rock (except poser and death metal). My favorite bands are Blink-182(punk), SlipKnoT(metal), Reliant K(Christian), The Fray(soft-rock), and the Beach Boys(oldies). As you can see, my taste in rock is diverse, but i refuse to like poser bands. Some emo bands i don't mind because they don't try to be hardcore, even then i just don't like the way they sound. If YOU listen to MCR, I really don't care, just know that they're not hardcore.

 

What about you? Do you agree or not?

[Dark0ne]

Couldn't care less; it's the people who dress up like them that make me laugh.

 

Personally I liked MCR's first album, loved their second and don't mind the two singles from the new album. Overall the new album seems very different and an image change for MCR, but it bothers me little. I'd have liked the third to be like the second, but that's just my opinion.

 

I suppose your MCR argument also passes on to Fall Out Boy, who are similarly mainstream and gain media interest?

 

It used to get to me; but now I don't mind. At the end of the day I focus little on the media attention (thank god I don't have crappy channels like MTV here) and just focus on the music itself; which is how it should be.

[poopgoblin]

yeah i sorta feel the same about Fall Out Boy, but they don't try and be hardcore, and that's my whole problem, too many bands don't know their place, and try to step into the shoes of heavy metal.

 

i never watch MTV because most all of the music they play is rap crap, and what isn't rap seems to be the new trend of emo butt-rock.

 

As for emos themselves, i do have a problem with them. I have at least two friends who have had serious suicidal thoughts (thank God that they never acted on them) and i was on a church retreat and there was a girl who was diagnosed with some sort of mental disorder and depression and she used to cut herself. Then, these people, these emos, who like to pretend that they have such major problems, try to make suicide and cutting look like trends, which they aren't. They're actions that ruin lives. I could've lost two of my best friends and i know that people who cut have actual problems. And to me it seems that emos are trying to glamorize it.

[Dark0ne]

Sadly it is not the music, or the genre's fault, but the people who listen to it.

 

Look at "Adam's Song" from Blink 182 which a suicide "victim" openly wrote about in his last letter, claiming it to be the tipping force for why he committed suicide. Would you say Blink 182 are emo or suicidal? I definately wouldn't. Would you say it was their fault for writing a song about suicide? I definately wouldn't.

 

Look at it this way; if I told you to go commit suicide would you do it? No, of course you wouldn't. Similarly if a song told you to go commit suicide would you do it? No, of course you wouldn't. Ergo this would suggest that it isn't the music that is the problem but instead the state of mind of the listener.

 

In the same way listening to Marilyn Manson doesn't make you a satanist, listening to emo/screamo doesn't make you suicidal.

 

On a side note, I wouldn't really call MCR emo at all. More like pop/punk rock. Sure he wears mascara but that doesn't make you emo. For a good emo comparison band see The Used.

[poopgoblin]

i wasn't saying that MCR made people wanna kill themselves, i was sayin that i don't like how emos try to glamorize suicide. And personally, i think that MCR is emo, but that's just me. And yes, i've actually gone to the library and checked out their CDs, listened to them, THEN stated my opinion. I don't like to judge bands without hearing what they sound like first.

[Dark0ne]

Could you reference me some material from MCR where they are glamorising suicide? Maybe I'm just singing along to the words without actually properly knowing what I'm saying..

[poopgoblin]

i wasn't saying that MCR does glamorize it, i don't know if they do. I was saying that it seems to me that emos in general try to glamorize it. My biggest problem with MCR is that they're posers.

[Vagrant0]

I'm kinda out of the loop here, but aren't EMO kids just the ones who are too weak and emotional to be Goth, but still try to pull the whole edgy "You're all facists, I'm going to wear black and sit in the corner brooding" thing? Frankly I don't see what the big deal is. Metal was violent and raw (before record companies got involved). Rap was the song of the streets (again before record companies got involved). Rock was looking to change the standard (before it became the standard). Emo just seems to be whining to music. Wasn't Country music doing this 10 years ago? Maybe I'm just too old and well adjusted to my own miserable existance to understand.

[Dark0ne]

My biggest problem with MCR is that they're posers.

 

And Slipknot aren't? Those guys dress up with masks!!! Have you seen them live? Half of them don't even do anything in half the songs so have to run around on the stage like headless chickens or crawl around on rotating drum sets --- there's posing for you.

 

Sure, MCR look like absolute idiots now (gawd what is with his hair) but, once again, it's the music I'm interested in, not what they do in their music videos.

[poopgoblin]

no, i don't think the members of slipknot are posers. They're technically nu-metal, and they were one of the first nu-metal bands to come out. As for half of the members not doing anything, well, your wrong there. i don't know the proper term, but i think they do "sampling" Also, i'm a percussionist at school, usually we don't do anything, its common for me to have to count 80 measures before i play a triange once, but me playing that triangle once is important to the song. so do you expect Shawn and Chris (the percussionists) to do nothing while they wait? plus, its kind of funny to watch a guy dressed up like a clown hit a keg with a baseball bat :) . Anyway, you can tell that they don't try to be hardcore, in most all metal bands, the lead singer will more or less just stand there and sing, NOT DANCE, as the lead singer of MCR does.

 

And here's the main reason i believe that MCR are posers and Slipknot aren't. When the lead singer of MCR screams, he sounds all whiny and emotional. When Corey Taylor screams (especially in the old songs, now his voice is shot :( ), he really does sound pissed off.

 

As you said, Dark0ne, you only care what the music sounds like, well my favorite band was Blink-182, but then Tom, the reason the band broke-up, started a new band, Angels&Airwaves, i like AVA. they're one of my favorite bands, when i could despise them just out of anger. I don't care what the people in a band look like, or what they did, but i won't listen to a band if i don't like what they stand for or if i believe that they are posers. For example, I like the old Green Day, but not the new Green Day because they sold out and i don't like what they stand for. I don't like Slayer because they're satanic and have a CD that has an image that mocks Christ on the front. I had heard MCR AND slipknot's music before i really knew anything about either band, but i just didn't like what i heard from the former. The emo and poser sentiment came later, after learning more about them.

 

Agree with me or not, but that's how i feel.