Political Correctness,

[csgators]

I'm speechless....

 

So, HeyYou, when we spoke briefly yesterday you said that you didn't post much in debates. Guess you've been making up for lost time since then, huh? :tongue: Well, thank goodness. I just don't know what to say. You have managed to get it all said so clearly and well, that I can just sit back and read now.

 

Actually, I discovered this section by accident...... and I haven't been real active on the forums here until recently. I find this section rather enjoyable. Intelligent discourse, on a variety of topics, without any of the mudslinging, insults, character impugning, etc, that I find on a number of other forums that I actually AM pretty active on for political/ect. commentary. Its refreshing. :D

 

and it gives me a soapbox.....

 

This is pretty much why I post here, on top of the reasons you stated I like how it keeps me active on a site that I am otherwise a very sporadic member of depending on what game I am currently playing.

[grannywils]

Well, we're getting off topic here, but I agree with you. In most cases I have found that the discussions in this forum are enjoyable and intelligent. I have found many friends with all different perspectives. In some cases we have disagreed vehemently, and still become good friends. I like the open-mindedness with which most people approach these discussions.

 

 

[HeyYou]

Well, we're getting off topic here, but I agree with you. In most cases I have found that the discussions in this forum are enjoyable and intelligent. I have found many friends with all different perspectives. In some cases we have disagreed vehemently, and still become good friends. I like the open-mindedness with which most people approach these discussions.

 

 

 

Off topic? Oh come on. We wouldn't do that....... :D

 

There are days, that I wonder if going off topic, isn't simply standard procedure. I suppose, you could look at it from another perspective.... We aren't REALLY going off topic, we are expanding the scope of the discussion..... Yeah, that's it. :)

 

Just out of idle curiosity, would taking a thread off topic, be considered Politically INCorrect?

[csgators]

Well, we're getting off topic here, but I agree with you. In most cases I have found that the discussions in this forum are enjoyable and intelligent. I have found many friends with all different perspectives. In some cases we have disagreed vehemently, and still become good friends. I like the open-mindedness with which most people approach these discussions.

 

 

 

Off topic? Oh come on. We wouldn't do that....... :D

 

There are days, that I wonder if going off topic, isn't simply standard procedure. I suppose, you could look at it from another perspective.... We aren't REALLY going off topic, we are expanding the scope of the discussion..... Yeah, that's it. :)

 

Just out of idle curiosity, would taking a thread off topic, be considered Politically INCorrect?

 

 

Some members consider it a sin (or use the excuse to dodge debate) but I personally think threads can go to a better place if not policed so strictly. :thumbsup:

Edited May 22, 2011 by csgators

[myrmaad]

Sure, maybe our foreign aid spending is a drop in the bucket when you look at the 'big picture', but, ya gotta start somewhere, right? Just think what the 10 BILLION dollars a year we give to Iraq could accomplish here. Maybe we wouldn't have bridges falling down, and killing everyone on them. Iraq, and Afghanistan are the two biggest beneficiaries. But, have a look at this map. Notice that we are giving some flavor of aid to damn near everyone... including.... China, and Saudi Arabia..... (like either country really needs it....) As I said in an earlier post, seems we can take care of (or, attempt to at least...) everyone else, EXCEPT Americans. Imagine that.

 

And what do we get for our money? Another country to export our jobs to? "The Good Will" of the recipient nation? I hardly think so. Is the return on the investment worth it? Not from where I am sitting.

 

And sure, the economy is a big issue now. (finally......) and everyone is preaching "fiscal responsibility"....... as that is what is in fashion at the moment. So, what are the first things they want to cut? Social Security, Medicaid (medicare? I get the two confused.) They want to give MORE tax breaks to big business, in the forlorn hope they will deign to 'create jobs'. Sure, that'll work. Just about as well as it did the last time they tried, and the time before that, ad nauseum. It may create jobs, in China...... or India, or some other "developing nation" that congress, in its 'wisdom' decided to give yet more tax breaks for...... (yeah, creating jobs in developing nations, which translated literally to "Moving jobs to developing nations".) Basically, take money away from those that need it most, and give it to those that need it least. In Michigan, they want to start taxing pension income, so they can give corporations yet another tax break...... Some solution.

 

This is NOT the America I grew up in. I remember when so called 'american' products were actually made RIGHT HERE in America. Wander thru any department store, and TRY and find a product that was made here in the states. (good luck with that.) Even products that were once considered 'the best', when they were actually made here.... have moved to china, and now, quality has dropped thru the floor, passed thru the basement, and settled somewhere on the third level of Hell. (what? Me cynical? Nah......)

 

Now, is this all the governments fault? Partially...... Mostly, it is interesting things like Lobbyists. Where whomever has the most money, can get their pet legislation passed. Or the Supreme Court, deciding that corporations are people to, and therefore have all the rights to do whatever political advertising they care to, along with direct campaign contributions..... doesn't matter that most of the companys employees wouldn't have the same political bent as the folks that are actually in a position to decide where that money goes....... Corporate america calls the shots. Plain and simple. They decide who gets elected, they decide what legislation passes, and what does not. Think your vote matters? It's an illusion. Perpetuated to fool 'the people' into thinking they actually have a voice in government, and their opinion matters. No it doesn't. Your congressman will vote the way he is told to, by the folks that put him in office.

 

Is any of that going to change? Not bloody likely. The folks that are in a position to make the necessary changes, are the very people that benefit most from leaving things just as they are. We are firmly ensconced in the handbasket, and we are accelerating rapidly on our journey. We hope you enjoy your ride. :D

 

 

Now you're talkin' my language. I have some slightly different takes from my prism, but the view from here is pretty spot on.

 

The thing is, we grew up in an American anomaly. After WWII every major player was pretty much devastated by war, but our factories were intact, our soil pristine, if you will (save for that early scuff in Hawaii). It was a tremendous opportunity and it was a bit of luck. While everyone else set about rebuilding, our factories stood ready and with a population raised to be factory workers..

[kvnchrist]

Man, you beat me to it.

 

I think political correctness is deception, by sugar coating. I always thought it was to make the creator feel better about themselves than those who were the supposedly it's benefactors. I often wonder if those who stand by this technique actuality discuss their actions with those they think they are protecting.

 

To me, a problem, if one exists remains a problem until it is brought out in the open and is discussed. I have always wondered if the proponents were afraid that opening a dialog on subjects because it would bring things to a head or would it eliminate an issue that has been used to separate others.

 

Anything with the term POLITICAL has connotations of control, which leads me to believe that such practices are meant to provide issues to benefit more the politicians then those they want to control.

[myrmaad]

May 22nd.

 

Thread Necromancy is not allowed. Please keep that in mind.

[kvnchrist]

May 22nd.

 

Thread Necromancy is not allowed. Please keep that in mind.

 

 

Sorry. I just raised the number of posts per page on my preferences and this one popped up. I like to post, but I don't want to flood the place with mine. How far back is acceptable?

[myrmaad]

May 22nd.

 

Thread Necromancy is not allowed. Please keep that in mind.

 

 

Sorry. I just raised the number of posts per page on my preferences and this one popped up. I like to post, but I don't want to flood the place with mine. How far back is acceptable?

 

This one's borderline. A week or two is usual.

[kvnchrist]

May 22nd.

 

Thread Necromancy is not allowed. Please keep that in mind.

 

 

Sorry. I just raised the number of posts per page on my preferences and this one popped up. I like to post, but I don't want to flood the place with mine. How far back is acceptable?

 

This one's borderline. A week or two is usual.

 

Thank you. I will definately keep that in mind. Have a great day.