ninja_lord666 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 This is a topic where you can post your opinions about myths such as Bigfoot, Nessie, Yeti, etc. I believe that it is more likely that Nessie is real. It could just simply be a plesiosaur (or possibly a family as has been suggested) that survived the mass exctinction 65 million years ago. Because other ancient speices did. Cockroaches and crocodiles were around in the times of the dinosaurs. They obviously survived. So why not a plesiosaur? Also, it is said that sea creatures had a higher chance of survival than the land swellers in the exctinction. However, until there is solid proof, I'm not going to say it is real, just that the chances are better. Bigfoot I believe is just simply that: a myth. I don't know what started it, but I don't belive it actually exixts. Yeti too. I don't believe it is real either. Also if (well, not really if) I missed some, post them here and we'll discuss them too. Edit: Now that I think of it, this would probably be better in Debates. If any of you moderators agree, could you move it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 *sigh* All of the above are myths. Moderators, please watch this thread carefully, anyone stupid enough to argue they really exist needs to be banned to protect the sanity of the forum. I would say something about lack of evidence, minimum breeding populations, or quite a few other things, but I sense it would be wasted on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 I am totally open to the concept of extra-terrestials and even, to a degree, extra-terrestials that visit or have visited our planet. I am not, however, open to the Loch Ness Monstor, Big Foot, Yeti, El Chupa Whatever etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 Just so we are clear, I never said that I believed in them.Although, I would like to know why you don't believe in them. It's not very convincing to simply say they don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentWeevil2077 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Just so we are clear, I never said that I believed in them.Although, I would like to know why you don't believe in them. It's not very convincing to simply say they don't exist.Here here. I don't believe any of these mythical creatures exist either, even extraterrestrials. BUT, with all the evidence I've seen, there is always the possibililty that Bigfoot (and perhaps even his family) DO indeed exist. I'm always fascinated by TV programs that come on Discovery that have to do with the unknown, you know. What if these things really do exist? And I don't think this should be a debate thread. If people believe in it or not, fine, as long as someone doesn't decide to flare up and flame the heck out of those that simply declare whether they think these things really exist. If someone fervently believes that Nessie exists, fine by me. I'll tell you right now that I'm staying in the middle of the road on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Just so we are clear, I never said that I believed in them.Although, I would like to know why you don't believe in them. It's not very convincing to simply say they don't exist. Clearly you don't understand the concept of "burden of proof". That's not how it works, you don't get to say "it could exist, prove me wrong". You are required to supply proof for your claims. And so far, absolutely no reliable proof has been found for any of these mythical beasts. Besides that, the absence of proof is a very strong argument against them. If they really exist, why has no reliable scientific study found any evidence of them? It's not like they live in completely inaccessable areas, we've discovered and studied organisms in far worse areas. With all the effort we've put into finding proof, something should've been found by now. It gets even worse when you consider that there's a minimum sustainable population for any species. You can't have just a single monster, you need a sustainable breeding population of them or they just die off (and the legends have been around for much longer than any plausible lifespan for a single monster). And that makes the lack of evidence even more persuasive, even if one monster could possibly hide from discovery, a whole population of them couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 What are you arguing to me about? I even said in that quote I don't believe! I was just trying to get a conversation going! I fully agree with everything you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 What are you arguing to me about? I even said in that quote I don't believe! I was just trying to get a conversation going! I fully agree with everything you said. Then don't make claims you don't actually support. Just accept that there isn't any room for discussion here, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 ETs Peregrine? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 ETs Peregrine? Discuss. Irrelevant. Is there some form of life somewhere in this universe? Pretty likely. Is it actually advanced enough to have a civilization, and come to visit us? Very unlikely. Does the "evidence" presented for those alien visits look even remotely plausible? Absolutely not. Lets think about this. Which is more likely: a) There is an incredibly advanced alien species out there, capable of violating the laws of physics as we know them and developing practical interstellar travel (or just devoting all their time and resources to doing it the hard way), and they come to our little corner of the universe for the equivalent of drunken frat boy pranks. Not only that, but despite these aliens running around messing with cows and having bizarre sex with random people, the same government that couldn't keep the president's sex life secret is able to silence all evidence, including multiple crashes and alien bodies. or b) Aliens and UFOs don't exist. All the so-called "evidence" is either mis-identification of normal human or natural activity, or fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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