HeyYou Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Sense is common? I believe that Common sense is the ability to know what is good or bad using our other five senses to achieve a decision, i.e., in the discovery of something new or different our common sense is a tool that uses our five senses to enable us to determine the state of good or bad about the new or different. Well I am a firm believer in a sort of common consciousness - even if it is purely on a chemical basis. However this is not to say the experience cannot be 'misinterpreted' (hearing colours, feeling numbers and other trippy s***...) or even hijacked into creating simulated thoughts and consciousness. Conditioning, if you will. Of course we can take it ever further, to a more primal set of principles, but then we end up essentially bewildered and 'in the dark'. At this level it only becomes useful as a means of basic survival... and at that point everything else is just fanciful. Do you recognize the term, "collective consciousness"? In your opinion is common sense still an essential sense? Yeah, although I avoided the term deliberately to try avoid any particular association to the 'coined' phrase. Good question! To be honest, I personally believe it is relative to your surroundings - is taste necessary to eat? So right now in the world I would say common sense is pretty much at its peak, if not in overdrive. Everyone is hyper-sensitive and it causes a sense of frenzy and confusion. As to whether we are able to embrace and adapt to this heightened sense of intimacy remains to be seen. What world are you living in? In the one I am in, it seems that all politicians have abandoned common sense altogether.... They do stuff that *sounds* good, but, in reality, is about as stupid as you can get..... Like raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, and not expecting it to have an impact on jobs, and prices...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Is learning limited to supporting us until our common sense is aware of the present in our more immediate environment where we begin to smell, then focus our ability to see, gauge distances and learn then too that our physical range can also detect space and objects within via our exterior flesh and hair through feeling, etc. and so on with each of the five senses? When you define learning in the way you suggest is your knowledge based on Dionysus or Dionysos, who was believed to be a god and overseer of the grape harvest, winemaking and wine, for ritual madness and ecstasy?Or a similar persona with traits that infused in your way of thinking suggest the youth rising to the occasion is causing all the disturbances which will calm down after the ritual running of the candidates? I'd say that yes we become 'accustomed' to certain things. We assume the sun will rise through repitition and it allows us to build other systems. When things cause a disturbance in such systems it causes us to have to readjust how we 'see' things. Like with astronomy it can take centuries for ideas to be discovered and accepted... only to change again. And again yes, although I do not draw personal inspiration from the study of Dionysus (although I share an interest in such 'ancient memes' :laugh:). I do believe that the wave, however intense, is just that. That isn't to say not to try ride it though! Sense is common? I believe that Common sense is the ability to know what is good or bad using our other five senses to achieve a decision, i.e., in the discovery of something new or different our common sense is a tool that uses our five senses to enable us to determine the state of good or bad about the new or different. Well I am a firm believer in a sort of common consciousness - even if it is purely on a chemical basis. However this is not to say the experience cannot be 'misinterpreted' (hearing colours, feeling numbers and other trippy s***...) or even hijacked into creating simulated thoughts and consciousness. Conditioning, if you will. Of course we can take it ever further, to a more primal set of principles, but then we end up essentially bewildered and 'in the dark'. At this level it only becomes useful as a means of basic survival... and at that point everything else is just fanciful. Do you recognize the term, "collective consciousness"? In your opinion is common sense still an essential sense? Yeah, although I avoided the term deliberately to try avoid any particular association to the 'coined' phrase. Good question! To be honest, I personally believe it is relative to your surroundings - is taste necessary to eat? So right now in the world I would say common sense is pretty much at its peak, if not in overdrive. Everyone is hyper-sensitive and it causes a sense of frenzy and confusion. As to whether we are able to embrace and adapt to this heightened sense of intimacy remains to be seen. What world are you living in? In the one I am in, it seems that all politicians have abandoned common sense altogether.... They do stuff that *sounds* good, but, in reality, is about as stupid as you can get..... Like raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, and not expecting it to have an impact on jobs, and prices...... I did say it was relevent to your surroundings and in previous comment that it wasn't always for the 'common good' or for 'truth'. I think my point was that what may seem as common sense - as in a sense that is common - may not be. This doesn't detract from its impact however, as I am sure would agree :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I am referring to common sense in the terms of knowing something is stupid, and NOT doing it...... Or, knowing the consequences of a particular action are likely to bring about unpleasant results, so, avoiding such action...... Our politicians have demonstrated exactly the opposite. Implementing laws/policies that they KNOW are going to have bad outcomes, but, doing them anyway....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I am referring to common sense in the terms of knowing something is stupid, and NOT doing it...... Or, knowing the consequences of a particular action are likely to bring about unpleasant results, so, avoiding such action...... Our politicians have demonstrated exactly the opposite. Implementing laws/policies that they KNOW are going to have bad outcomes, but, doing them anyway....... I know what you mean, and what I am saying is that it can (and has) become distorted. Through excess and corruption, or perhaps even deliberately by some sort of 'elders' - the 'untouchable' people you never even see. Some of it may also be a result of our willing surrender to artificial intelligence before fully understanding our own... I wouldn't necessarily look to the masses or those that try control them to find common sense, as nature is efficient enough at rooting out those who are unable to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Nature has been doing a piss poor job of it then...... Either that, or she operates on a significantly longer time-scale than I consider. :) The human race is it's own worst enemy, but, doing something about it would mean that the uber-rich wouldn't make as much money.... so, can't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Nature has been doing a piss poor job of it then...... Either that, or she operates on a significantly longer time-scale than I consider. The human race is it's own worst enemy, but, doing something about it would mean that the uber-rich wouldn't make as much money.... so, can't have that. I never said nature wasn't cruel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted54170User Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Is nature the Earth in your opinion's? Could the frenzy during occasions of ritual madness we experience in different ways when we are at different ages, 5 to 12; 13 to 20, and so on, be because of the Earth's seasonal changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Is nature the Earth in your opinion's? Could the frenzy during occasions of ritual madness we experience in different ways when we are at different ages, 5 to 12; 13 to 20, and so on, be because of the Earth's seasonal changes? I'd say, for me, nature just accounts for the way things are. Physics, mathematics, life, dreams, whatever... And yeah I'd say even if you don't believe in a 'higher power' there are larger forces at work that likely affect us in ways we are perhaps unaware (moon, gravity, light, temperature)... Which goes back to the 'common consciousness' thing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted54170User Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Is nature the Earth in your opinion's? Could the frenzy during occasions of ritual madness we experience in different ways when we are at different ages, 5 to 12; 13 to 20, and so on, be because of the Earth's seasonal changes? I'd say, for me, nature just accounts for the way things are. Physics, mathematics, life, dreams, whatever... And yeah I'd say even if you don't believe in a 'higher power' there are larger forces at work that likely affect us in ways we are perhaps unaware (moon, gravity, light, temperature)... Which goes back to the 'common consciousness' thing again. Common consciousness? Which does that relate to best, "the collective conscience" or "the collective conscious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshinenbrick Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Is nature the Earth in your opinion's? Could the frenzy during occasions of ritual madness we experience in different ways when we are at different ages, 5 to 12; 13 to 20, and so on, be because of the Earth's seasonal changes? I'd say, for me, nature just accounts for the way things are. Physics, mathematics, life, dreams, whatever... And yeah I'd say even if you don't believe in a 'higher power' there are larger forces at work that likely affect us in ways we are perhaps unaware (moon, gravity, light, temperature)... Which goes back to the 'common consciousness' thing again. Common consciousness? Which does that relate to best, "the collective conscience" or "the collective conscious? I suppose a conscience is perhaps a retrospective view of the conscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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