MioneRCP Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Haven't heard much in a while has this stalled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhartman9 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I started a thread called real power armor. There is a robotics company called get this Cyberdyne Industries in japan that has a full exoskeleton. I was told its old news already and they are in use by hospital staff to aid them in lifting patients and what not. If you have the money I would suggest putting the printed parts on their frame. It already has power and the pads that sense your muscle movement and respond appropriately. Cyberdyne Systems CEO has figured out the really hard stuff already. I was trying to find a cost on this but it looks like its one of those if you have to ask you cant afford it items. http://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/products/supporting.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23chaos23 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 I started a thread called real power armor. There is a robotics company called get this Cyberdyne Industries in japan that has a full exoskeleton. I was told its old news already and they are in use by hospital staff to aid them in lifting patients and what not. If you have the money I would suggest putting the printed parts on their frame. It already has power and the pads that sense your muscle movement and respond appropriately. Cyberdyne Systems CEO has figured out the really hard stuff already. I was trying to find a cost on this but it looks like its one of those if you have to ask you cant afford it items. http://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/products/supporting.htmlyeah i saw those years back, this wont be the sort of power armor that does that, the joints will have assistance but you wont be seeing it flipping cars if you know what i mean. for the most part the project is a way for me to get a better understanding of the mechanical ergonomics of making a wearable mech suit and to expand my knowledge of electronics. Im not a fan of the pay to win option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23chaos23 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Haven't heard much in a while has this stalled?well if you follow me on youtube you would know whats going on lol, i took a brake over new year and im back at it now. just got a 3D printer so ill be taking some tie to set that up before getting back to work on the power armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhartman9 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 It took the Cyberdyne Systems guy 5 years of R&D to isolate the signal impulse to the leg muscles. It really could be more cost effective to buy his product than to try to figure that out for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23chaos23 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 It took the Cyberdyne Systems guy 5 years of R&D to isolate the signal impulse to the leg muscles. It really could be more cost effective to buy his product than to try to figure that out for yourself.why would you think im going to use that sort of system? do you know how unreliable it is to use signals from the muscles? do you know how variable those signals are? and the fact that you use hundreds of muscles in concert to just balance while standing. Its literally the worst way to control a powered suit, the DARPA suit uses predictive force measuring which is a million times easier, cheaper and reliable. And im not even going to use that method im going to use the tried and true fly-by wire style input and output (similar to DARPAs system but way more ghetto). using end stop switches in clever ways with potentiometers at the joints to give positional tracking you can create a very reliable and cheap input system. besides if you kept track of my youtube videos you would know i started developing a system for my personal concept power armor 5 years ago, im building the FO4 armor because its popular and draws a crowd faster (search engines will bring up my videos on youtube along with lets play videos) dial back your expectations a bit, this is going to be more like a life size working "toy" of the FO4 PA. Its almost just a really detailed cosplay but way to technical and functional to be cosplay hence the title of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhartman9 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I am a master electrician. I am curious how your keeping track of inputs and outputs. Are you using a programmable logic controller? You describe both analog and discrete inputs so relay logic is out. Does the fly by wire magic box rely on algorithms or boolean logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLeonhardt Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 powerarmor build with 3d printer? why not building it by real steal? would be awesomeBecause steel is retarded heavy compared to 3D printed rubber/plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23chaos23 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 I am a master electrician. I am curious how your keeping track of inputs and outputs. Are you using a programmable logic controller? You describe both analog and discrete inputs so relay logic is out. Does the fly by wire magic box rely on algorithms or boolean logic?well lucky for me my dad is also a master electrician, instrument fitter, electrical process engineer and programmer. my idea is to have it run off relay logic and have a master limiter that reads the pots and overrides the relay when limits are reached. so no relay logic is not out. what i still trying to work out is the variable speed input, i could use pressure sensitive plates in conjunction with end stops or do away with end stops, it depends on the mechanical function of the part. the pots are to make sure it only works inside of a range, and if input is active and movement is not happening then the output is stopped to prevent motor/actuator burnout. but all this is on hold until the frame is designed then ill start looking at how the mechanical aspects will work then we look at electronics. and even if it all runs off processing logic by the most part it would be boolean logic, algorithms would be a waist of time. All you need is a move or stop function with a speed variable integer. but like i said the control would be determined on a case by case basis, for the most part ill use none centralized PLCs (so a basic PLC for each limb/joint) and when you can get tiny Eduino based logic boards as big as your thumb for super cheap this is the best way to go. Push comes to shove i can slave the individual plcs to a master node to easily track and update the firmware for all the units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhartman9 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 that sounds like the same stuff I do. Your not from Alberta are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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