*Spoiler warning* [wip] pip-boy institute teleporter into a time machine

[randydg]

** Update ***

This mod is scrapped in favor of having vault 111 have another purpose. to download the minds of those in the pods into a large database.

and thus having your other half downloaded into a synth.

Will be starting a new post about that mod.

Edited December 2, 2015 by randydg

[Boombro]

 

The catch is only someone who has been to the selected time can use it.

Why? That makes no sense.

 

 

A requirement of intelligence 10 is needed to begin construction.

Why? I'm making it? Not a whole team? Why is he not telling anyone? I'm sure the institute would be so happy with such a thing.

 

 

The modification takes 48 hours in game time. done via fade to black and cutscenes.

There is a timer for quests that need this.

 

 

He gives you a chance to back out. 1 in 5 chance of death.

How does he know if he didn't test it?

 

 

If you make it back your wife and baby Shaun go to Sanctuary to your old house.

Not everyone lives there.

 

 

and thus ending the mod. having your wife look after Shaun as you go out into the world.

The wife won't go mad?

What if I was the wife?

Will I go mad?

 

 

The scientist tells you that the institute will change with Shaun not being taken by them.

I'm dump, but I'm sure that changes the timeline you are travelling to only.

 

And why the pip boy? You can use the teleporter you made earlier.

 

Why I won't warn everyone before hand, force the vault open to save everyone, stop the experiment in the vault or/and stop everyone from dying via sleep?

 

Why I can't just go back 60 years, saving my wife/husband from one gunshot?

[randydg]

1. Because if they did not exist during that time they wouldn't exist. You go back in your old body.

 

2. He helps wit bh the project.Only you and the scientist are working on it. it's a secret project. and the "Father" would be angry at the player and try and stop him. cause he never wanted to live in the wastelands. and was glad he didn't.

 

3. because he knows it's experimental. anything can go wrong.

 

4. it will be based on your sex.

 

5. Doesn't matter if everyone lives there. to me it's about sentimental aspect. if you don't want them there then when the mod is finished ask for a location change
. The top 5 locations will be added in the other versions section.

 

 

And why the pip boy? You can use the teleporter you made earlier

A: because it's built in the pip-boy like the teleporter is.. the time machine was never a stand alone machine.

 

Why I won't warn everyone before hand, force the vault open to save everyone, stop the experiment in the vault or/and stop everyone from dying via sleep?

A: Because like most people you mainly care about your family and if you change to much it could mess everything up. besides you got like a short time to use it before it burns out the time machine chip

 

Why I can't just go back 60 years, saving my wife/husband from one gunshot?

 

hmm, haven't thought about that. though if you go back 60 years you will still be in the pod and unable to open it from the inside.

 

The only thing that came from the future is the pipboy that was shielded to pass through time.

Though once the player is back to the present time the chip fries thus ending the cycle and from that moment forward is lost.

 

 

Hope this answers your questions.

Also please note everything here is subject to change. as I get feedback.

Edited December 1, 2015 by randydg

[Boombro]

 

 

2. He helps wit bh the project.Only you and the scientist are working on it. it's a secret project. and the "Father" would be angry at the player and try and stop him. cause he never wanted to live in the wastelands. and was glad he didn't.

A group of elite scientists will try to stop the making of a time machine instead of going to try to stop the bombs fall so they will never have to hole up for decades? They won't force the scientist to work for them under watch, or take his work and work on it themselves or praise him because he made a time machine and can see his old house, his father and how the world was back in the way?

 

And why tell you, a pawn of father and later on. The leader of the whole place? Why not a follow scientist or a gen 1, 2 android?

Why would he waste something else lost on you?

 

 

 

3. because he knows it's experimental. anything can go wrong.

But knows it 1 in 5? And didn't even try testing on anything what soever. In any way?

 

 

A: because it's built in the pip-boy like the teleporter is.. the time machine was never a stand alone machine.

A teleporter is a teleporter.

 

So he was able to make a chip that is a time machine and not a big place to stand in and lights up crazy lightsy? Come on, that lame!

 

And how would he know to build one that works with the pip boy and the pc is pretty much the only person with a pip boy in the whole place?

 

 

A: Because like most people you mainly care about your family.

Mainly, not only.

 

 

hmm, haven't thought about that. though if you go back 60 years you will still be in the pod and unable to open it from the inside.

Because if they did not exist during that time they wouldn't exist. You go back in your old body.

Time travel doesn't work like that, as far as I know anyways.

If you traveled to another timeline, you will see the past you and you should never see each other. You can stop your wife getting shot before the vault is open or shortly is after.

 

 

The only thing that came from the future is the pipboy that was shielded to pass through time.

So I will spawn dead?

Sorry, I'm a sarcastic person.

[randydg]

 

 

 

 

 

2. He helps wit bh the project.Only you and the scientist are working on it. it's a secret project. and the "Father" would be angry at the player and try and stop him. cause he never wanted to live in the wastelands. and was glad he didn't.

A group of elite scientists will try to stop the making of a time machine instead of going to try to stop the bombs fall so they will never have to hole up for decades? They won't force the scientist to work for them under watch, or take his work and work on it themselves or praise him because he made a time machine and can see his old house, his father and how the world was back in the way?

 

A: That makes no sense. Nobody knows about it except the player and the one scientist.

it will be like the player finds a schematic for a prototype. and he knows this one scientist will help him because before that at some point he tells the player how "father" is not letting him work on his own projects and asks the player if he knows of any projects he can work on in secret.

 

And why tell you, a pawn of father and later on. The leader of the whole place? Why not a follow scientist or a gen 1, 2 android?

Why would he waste something else lost on you?

 

A: This makes no sense. I can't make any sense out of it.

 

 

 

3. because he knows it's experimental. anything can go wrong.

But knows it 1 in 5? And didn't even try testing on anything what soever. In any way?

 

A:No.. It was experimental.. and no time to test it.

 

 

A: because it's built in the pip-boy like the teleporter is.. the time machine was never a stand alone machine.

A teleporter is a teleporter.

So he was able to make a chip that is a time machine and not a big place to stand in and lights up crazy lightsy? Come on, that lame!

 

A: Wrong. there is a room in the instatute that is a teleporter and there is the one added to your pip-boy. and if it was the room how do you get back? duh! think for a min.

 

 

And how would he know to build one that works with the pip boy and the pc is pretty much the only person with a pip boy in the whole place?

A: Because the instatute gives the player a pip-boy modification that lets him teleport. Duh!

Think before you reply.

 

 

A: Because like most people you mainly care about your family.

Mainly, not only.

 

A: To each his own. Don't like it, don't get the mod.

 

 

hmm, haven't thought about that. though if you go back 60 years you will still be in the pod and unable to open it from the inside.

Because if they did not exist during that time they wouldn't exist. You go back in your old body.

Time travel doesn't work like that, as far as I know anyways.

If you traveled to another timeline, you will see the past you and you should never see each other. You can stop your wife getting shot before the vault is open or shortly is after.

 

A: There are time travel theries that you will inhibbit your own body from the past or future and if you don't exist in the place you are going it won't send you.

 

 

 

The only thing that came from the future is the pipboy that was shielded to pass through time.

So I will spawn dead?

Sorry, I'm a sarcastic person.

 

A: And the player duh.. but not his body. just his mind.

 

please limit your replies to logical and thought out answers.

[StrawHatPro]

As a whole, I think this could be a really cool mod! With the 1 out of 5 chance, that is oddly specific. Especially knowing that for a device that hasn't been tested yet. A simple fix would just be having the scientist to say something like "The device hasn't been tested yet. We don't know what could happen if there's, say, a failure. Now, I'll be frank. There is a slight chance the device could fail, ending most likely in you're death. The bolded text is the one that you could replace instead of 1 out of 5.

 

Apart from that, i don't really see anything else wrong with it, until you get to actual game-play aspects.

 

1. Having a 1 out of 5 chance of dying every time I use it could be tedious. It adds something that could frustrate players with bad luck, as it's random. So here is my fix: Instead of having intelligence to 10, you need to have luck up to 10. Other wise you encounter death when you use it. This removes random death for no reason, but still keeping with your idea. Death in a game should always feel like the players fault, random chance is not their fault and it is not fun constantly having to reload because the game decided to kill you.

 

2. How would you get voice acting for the playable characters? I don't have a fix for this. If you were doing a mod like this I would suggest them having voices as it would be extremely jarring for hearing your character speak throughout the game and then him not. Regardless of people liking him having a voice or not, it would still feel weird.

 

Overall this sounds like a cool mod but there are a few problems which will need sorting.

[Danneyo]

Just gonna interject here quickly. This mod doesn't seem very feasible. I have a few reasons why I believe this:

 

1. This would essentially completely change the timeline in ways you might not have considered. It's called the Butterfly Effect, where something small can have big consequences later. When it comes to pivotal characters like the Sole Survivor and the Father, changing events surrounding them could have some massive effects that would potentially break the games story.

 

2. The amount of scripting and modifying that would be needed in this would be intense. The Institute would have to be reworked massively to fit this new version of events, as well as any other groups in the Wasteland that have been affected by the Institute.

 

3. This is a very ambitious mod for one person. I assume this is also your first mod of this type, if not your first mod at all.

 

I believe this idea as a whole is unworkable in its current state. The idea of Time Travel is interesting, but the details would need to be fleshed out a lot better.

[Boombro]

 

Why would he waste something else lost on you?

Can you word it better?

 

 

it will be like the player finds a schematic for a prototype. and he knows this one scientist will help him because before that at some point he tells the player how "father" is not letting him work on his own projects and asks the player if he knows of any projects he can work on in secret.

So he can make a time machine, just like that because he has a blue print?

 

 

A:No.. It was experimental.. and no time to test it.

But there was time to make to it, talk to me about it and hooking up my pip boy?

 

 

A: Wrong. there is a room in the instatute that is a teleporter and there is the one added to your pip-boy. and if it was the room how do you get back? duh! think for a min.

You said it a chip and a standalone machine.

 

A: Because the instatute gives the player a pip-boy modification that lets him teleport. Duh!

It not the same.

It like the saying softwares are the same, coding my paint is not like coding a text editor.

It also doesn't mean he worked on the pip boy mod himself. It was made because they know I was there. Father made it for me because he knows I have a pip boy. Other npcs react as if they saw it the first time ever in their lives.

 

 

To each his own. Don't like it, don't get the mod.

Okay.

 

 

There are time travel theries that you will inhibbit your own body from the past or future and if you don't exist in the place you are going it won't send you.

Don't you think it will limit your mod though?

 

 

please limit your replies to logical and thought out answers.

So it doesn't count if I answered a more that one question? Dame. Okay fine.

[StrawHatPro]

Just gonna interject here quickly. This mod doesn't seem very feasible. I have a few reasons why I believe this:

 

1. This would essentially completely change the timeline in ways you might not have considered. It's called the Butterfly Effect, where something small can have big consequences later. When it comes to pivotal characters like the Sole Survivor and the Father, changing events surrounding them could have some massive effects that would potentially break the games story.

 

2. The amount of scripting and modifying that would be needed in this would be intense. The Institute would have to be reworked massively to fit this new version of events, as well as any other groups in the Wasteland that have been affected by the Institute.

 

3. This is a very ambitious mod for one person. I assume this is also your first mod of this type, if not your first mod at all.

 

I believe this idea as a whole is unworkable in its current state. The idea of Time Travel is interesting, but the details would need to be fleshed out a lot better.

Now that you bring these up, the cracks are starting to show. I didn't actually think of these, except for number 3. I was guessing he was going to get a team together or something. Not to mention this would most likely take months, if not years to make. Solely because of the time travel aspects. Hell, time travel is usually always faulty in movies or games a lot of the time.

[Danneyo]

Something like time travel can be done effectively and well. We saw this in D.E.I.M.O.S. However, that mod was on a small scale, very fleshed out, didn't affect the larger world, and didn't actually change anything. It just allowed the player to experience the past.