Demonikone Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Hi, thanks for taking the time to have a look at this, So basically recently updating several mods I now have a couple of issues : 1: no access to the "wooden walls" catagory2: CTD if i pass the fences category and attempt to make anything from ssex or homemaker here is the ultramodded load order im running xD GameMode=Fallout4Fallout4.esm=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1SettlementKeywords.esm=1Robot Home Defence.esm=1Homemaker.esm=1Snap'n Build.esm=1Homemaker.esp=1SSEx.esp=1Safe SSEx.esp=1Homemaker - SSEx Compatibility Patch.esp=1BrighterSettlementLights.esp=1BuildableBurningCampfires.esp=1Arbitration.esp=1Existence 2.0.esp=1BetterNightVision.esp=1BloodDecalsFix.esp=1Busty.esp=0CraftableAmmunitions.esp=1DarkerNights.esp=1Discover Location 50%.esp=1Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp=1IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1Institute Clean.esp=1LegendaryAllDifficulties5x.esp=1LightboxPower.esp=1MegaExplosions_x2_VisualsOnly.esp=1MMP4APA.esp=1NX Pro Farmer.esp=1PaintJobs.esp=1Perks Unleashed.esp=1PipBoyShadows.esp=1Power Conduits and Pylons - Increased Radius.esp=1DD_All_the_COncrete.esp=1DDP_Lightbox1.esp=1DD_Columnsandstuff_1_0.esp=1DDP_Ramps_mark1.esp=1DD_Floor_brace.esp=1Dont Throw Stones.esp=1RainofBrassPetals.esp=1RealisticLights.esp=1RRP4APA.esp=1SPECIAL-42.esp=1Weightless throwables.esp=1Walls and Floors - Simple Intersection.esp=1vertibirdgrenade.esp=1Workshop_Planters.esp=1Worsins-Immersive-Garage-X01-Bundle.esp=1Worsins-Standalone-BetterFlames-Bundle.esp=1X1_BOS.esp=1no_level_reqs.esp=0zWGirlClothSimply.esp=1CBBE.esp=1Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1Eli_ArmourCollection.esp=1Jacket.esp=1J&C Outfit fix.esp=1cutoffs-calyps.esp=1DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp=1AR7_MadHatter.esp=1PowerArmorDelivery.esp=1Movable Power Armor.esp=1Harness-calyps.esp=1Snap and Build - Modules.esp=1Snap and Build - Patches.esp=1Crafting Workbench.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1LegendaryModification.esp=1LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1BetterSettlers.esp=1DX Chem I Care Outfit.esp=1ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp=1ExpandedSettlementBuildings_SimpleIntersection.esp=1ExpandedSettlementBuildings_Homemaker.esp=1OCDecorator.esp=1OCDispenser.esp=1OCDuplicator.esp=1Business Settlements.esp=1Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp=1DeadBodyCollision.esp=1RichMerchants.esp=1EferasShoulderBag.esp=1MoreHairstyles4Male3.1.esp=1MoreHairstyles4Female4.1.esp=1MoreBeards2.esp=1GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp=1Realistic Death Physics.esp=1Colossus.esp=1ABP Paintings.esp=1ABP Paintings - Categories #G#B#P#01#50.esp=1PAStealthMods.esp=1DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1All Military Skin pack.esp=1T60CamoPack.esp=1Anchorage Power Armor.esp=1Parang Machete.esp=1BoneWeaponsLagrie.esp=1Santanas Bandanas.esp=1TDS_PA_WWII_Paints_Literust.esp=1WraparoundNVG.esp=1Eli_PlantPots.esp=0BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp=1Glowing Eyes.esp=1Cuts and Blunts 3.0.esp=1TrueStormsFO4.esp=1Chem_redux.esp=1DV-Durable Vertibirds.esp=1MoreBetterWeaponMods1.3.esp=1Weapon Mods Mod.esp=1zWInsanity.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1WeightlessAid.esp=1WeightlessJunk.esp=1WeightlessSpecialAmmo.esp=1Spartan-Calyps.esp=1Raider Power Armor Reforged.esp=1Eli_ArmourCollection_CWB_Patch.esp=1Armorsmith Elianora Extended.esp=1Arbitration - Survival Damage by Player 2.5x.esp=1Arbitration - Controllable Lowered Weapons.esp=1Arbitration - Instant Weapon Lowering.esp=1Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp=1Arbitration - Reduced Grenade Spam.esp=1Arbitration - Farther Grenade Detection.esp=1Arbitration - Stealth Overhaul (Vanilla Detection Distance).esp=1Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp=1Arbitration - Molotov.esp=1Arbitration - No Condition Regeneration.esp=1Arbitration - Reload and Walk Speed.esp=1Arbitration - Speed Uninstaller (Remove This and Save).esp=1Cait_Makeover_Unladylike_Haircut.esp=1FusionCoreCrafting.esp=1MojaveImports.esp=1TS-ShortSkirts.esp=1Eli_Utility Jumpsuits.esp=1LongerHeadlampLightWithShadows2x.esp=1Realjetpack10%drain.esp=1Extended weapon mods.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=1Simple Intersection.esp=1NoNegativeAffinityNof*#@s.esp=1NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1CompanionHairstyleSelectionPiper.esp=1CROSS_Gear.esp=1ShadeArmorIV.esp=1Craftable Armor Size.esp=1WeaponRacks.esp=1WeaponRacks-Tools-Weightless.esp=1WeaponRacks-Weapons-Vanilla.esp=1 Machine specs are ::Asus Hexcore16g ram4g graphics card The game WAS running fine until recently, only things i have changed as as follows :: Added Settlement keywords updateupdated homemaker ssex patchattempted to swap from DDP's multiple esps to his all in one esp the wall issue was there before and after this attempt,the ctd has only just started happening, I can PLAY the game fine, i just cant craft lol help would be appreciated, thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm137 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 CTDs in workshop mode are usually caused by a missing mesh. Double check all your installations. If you are missing categories, you have too many settlement mods that add categories. Homemaker is usually the biggest suspect in these cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonikone Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 so uninstall and re install all my construction mods you reckon? makes sense, will give it a go and let you know how it turns out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonikone Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Pk so after re isntall, the menus are a bit different and it didnt ctd straight away, I was building for about 10-15 mins before i got ctd, standard game walls are still not accessible, Updated Load order GameMode=Fallout4Fallout4.esm=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1Homemaker.esm=1SettlementKeywords.esm=1Snap'n Build.esm=1Robot Home Defence.esm=1Homemaker.esp=1SSEx.esp=0BrighterSettlementLights.esp=1BuildableBurningCampfires.esp=1Arbitration.esp=1Existence 2.0.esp=1BetterNightVision.esp=1BloodDecalsFix.esp=1Busty.esp=0CraftableAmmunitions.esp=1DarkerNights.esp=1Discover Location 50%.esp=1Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp=1IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1Institute Clean.esp=1LegendaryAllDifficulties5x.esp=1LightboxPower.esp=1MegaExplosions_x2_VisualsOnly.esp=1MMP4APA.esp=1NX Pro Farmer.esp=1PaintJobs.esp=1Perks Unleashed.esp=1PipBoyShadows.esp=1Power Conduits and Pylons - Increased Radius.esp=1DD_All_the_COncrete.esp=1DDP_Lightbox1.esp=1RainofBrassPetals.esp=1RealisticLights.esp=1RRP4APA.esp=1SPECIAL-42.esp=1Weightless throwables.esp=1Walls and Floors - Simple Intersection.esp=1vertibirdgrenade.esp=1Workshop_Planters.esp=1Worsins-Immersive-Garage-X01-Bundle.esp=1Worsins-Standalone-BetterFlames-Bundle.esp=1X1_BOS.esp=1no_level_reqs.esp=0zWGirlClothSimply.esp=1CBBE.esp=1Eli_ArmourCollection.esp=1Jacket.esp=1J&C Outfit fix.esp=1cutoffs-calyps.esp=1DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp=1AR7_MadHatter.esp=1PowerArmorDelivery.esp=1Movable Power Armor.esp=1Harness-calyps.esp=1Crafting Workbench.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1LegendaryModification.esp=1LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1BetterSettlers.esp=1DX Chem I Care Outfit.esp=1Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp=1DeadBodyCollision.esp=1RichMerchants.esp=1EferasShoulderBag.esp=1MoreHairstyles4Male3.1.esp=1MoreHairstyles4Female4.1.esp=1MoreBeards2.esp=1GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp=1Realistic Death Physics.esp=1Colossus.esp=1PAStealthMods.esp=1DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1All Military Skin pack.esp=1T60CamoPack.esp=1Anchorage Power Armor.esp=1Parang Machete.esp=1BoneWeaponsLagrie.esp=1Santanas Bandanas.esp=1TDS_PA_WWII_Paints_Literust.esp=1WraparoundNVG.esp=1Eli_PlantPots.esp=0BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp=1Glowing Eyes.esp=1Cuts and Blunts 3.0.esp=1TrueStormsFO4.esp=1Chem_redux.esp=1DV-Durable Vertibirds.esp=1MoreBetterWeaponMods1.3.esp=1Weapon Mods Mod.esp=1zWInsanity.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1WeightlessAid.esp=1WeightlessJunk.esp=1WeightlessSpecialAmmo.esp=1Spartan-Calyps.esp=1Raider Power Armor Reforged.esp=1Eli_ArmourCollection_CWB_Patch.esp=1Armorsmith Elianora Extended.esp=1Arbitration - Survival Damage by Player 2.5x.esp=1Arbitration - Controllable Lowered Weapons.esp=1Arbitration - Instant Weapon Lowering.esp=1Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp=1Arbitration - Reduced Grenade Spam.esp=1Arbitration - Farther Grenade Detection.esp=1Arbitration - Stealth Overhaul (Vanilla Detection Distance).esp=1Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp=1Arbitration - Molotov.esp=1Arbitration - No Condition Regeneration.esp=1Arbitration - Reload and Walk Speed.esp=1Arbitration - Speed Uninstaller (Remove This and Save).esp=1Cait_Makeover_Unladylike_Haircut.esp=1FusionCoreCrafting.esp=1MojaveImports.esp=1TS-ShortSkirts.esp=1Eli_Utility Jumpsuits.esp=1LongerHeadlampLightWithShadows2x.esp=1Realjetpack10%drain.esp=1Extended weapon mods.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=1NoNegativeAffinityNof*#@s.esp=1NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1CompanionHairstyleSelectionPiper.esp=1CROSS_Gear.esp=1ShadeArmorIV.esp=1Craftable Armor Size.esp=1WeaponRacks.esp=1WeaponRacks-Tools-Weightless.esp=1WeaponRacks-Weapons-Vanilla.esp=1OCDecorator.esp=1OCDispenser.esp=1OCDuplicator.esp=1Safe SSEx.esp=1Snap and Build - Modules.esp=1Snap and Build - Patches.esp=1Simple Intersection.esp=1Homemaker - SSEx Compatibility Patch.esp=0Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=0ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp=1ExpandedSettlementBuildings_SimpleIntersection.esp=1ExpandedSettlementBuildings_Homemaker.esp=1DD_AIO_I_Hate_You_All.esp=1DD_Columnsandstuff_1_0.esp=1Business Settlements.esp=1ABP Paintings.esp=1ABP Paintings - Categories #G#B#P#01#50.esp=1Homemaker - SK-SSEx-SnB.esp=1Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SK.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac2636 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I finally just removed SSex and that solved nearly all of my menu problems. Using Settlement Keywords, DD's mods, Homemaker, Snap N' Build, Alternate Settlements, and Alternate Furniture covers pretty much everything I need anyway, so I no longer have a need for SSex. I would suggest removing SSex until the author gets on board with Settlement Keywords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingculex Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) There does seem to be some interesting issues if Settlement Keywords is loaded after Homemaker. One player reported Restraunts being missing from the Stores menu until they move Settlement Keywords up in load order. Homemaker has its own format of the workshop menus. There were or are issues with NMM installing Homemaker 1.31d fully and it was causing CTDs in the Workshop. Manually installing and in some cases copying the meshes folder from 1.3 version of Homemaker over to the data folder often works. Or some meshes were simply missing from the latest version of Homemaker. Settlement Keywords is not needed if you do not have a mod that requires it. Unfortunately, the latest version of NX PRO Farming does require it. From the posts under Craftable Pillars and Support braces - Mostly works at night mostly- by DDProductions83 "Ahhh, since you may not read my reply in the comment below, the reason people are getting ctds is due to where you put the columns, under Structures>Misc. My guess is it's conflicting with homemaker or some such silliness. I moved everything to structures>wood>misc and no more ctd." Maybe DDProductions83 used version 1,0 of Cractable Pillars and Support braces in their DDProd AIO HOLY CRAP IT'S ONE ESP mod? I will not go into SSEX since it is a mess. NovaCoru (author of Homemaker) is even talking about stopping making compatibilty patches for it. **My suggestion is to disable all your mods and then enable them one at a time starting your game and accessing the workshop each time to see if the CTD happens. This will narrow down which are causing the CTD. (I know it will take might take sometime but I had to do it with an odd ball CTD myself.) Edited January 18, 2016 by kingculex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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