OBSE Problem

[Hickory]

I'm curious. Why do you have OBSE installed if you have no mods installed? And that brings me to my second question: what OBSE plugins do you have installed?

[HeyYou]

What operating system, and where did you install the game to?

[gotxbrains]

I have obse installed because I previously had mods and suffered weird crashing, so clean install, obse was the first to be installed. I don't use plugins for obse, I run Vista, Installed the game to an external hard drive.

[HeyYou]

External harddrive? How is it connected to your machine? ESATA? or USB?

[gotxbrains]

Highspeed usb port

[Striker879]

You'll need to find out if it's USB 2.0 or USB 3.0. If it's USB 2.0 and you have two devices using the same data bus all devices will use the speed of the slowest device. In other words if your high speed external hard drive and your mouse are both connected to the same USB 2.0 bus the hard drive will operate at USB 1.1 data rates (if your mouse is USB 1.1). On the back of your computer (assuming your using the rear USB ports for both mouse and extHD) make sure they aren't plugged in side by side (that's not the truly definitive way to make sure they're not on the same bus, but do you want to get into Device Manager and look at bus loads to find all the relationships).

 

If the external HD is USB 3.0 AND you have it plugged into a USB 3.0 port, another USB device plugged into a port on the same bus can be a slower specification without loss of speed on your USB 3.0 device. You'll need to refer to your motherboards manual (if you're lucky enough to have one of those) to determine which USB ports are 3.0 (or use Device Manager).

[gotxbrains]

I have usb ports in front and in back, the ones in front were upgrade to 3.0 and that's where the exthd is, nothing else plugged in there. I don't think the external hard drive is the problem, as i have no issues running any other games from it.

[Striker879]

Nope ... USB 3.0 device plugged into a USB 3.0 port shouldn't be an issue even if something else is plugged in beside it. One possibility eliminated.

[gotxbrains]

great... so what is it? I'd really hate not being able to use any obse mods :/

[Striker879]

Since you are using an external HD I'm assuming you are using a physical disk version of the game. The Direct2Drive or Impulse download versions of the game aren't compatible with OBSE (the Steam version is however). Confirm that the files obse_1_2_416.dll and obse_editor_1_2.dll are in your Oblivion folder (not your Data folder) AND either obse_loader.exe (if you are using a physical disk version of the game e.g. Game of the Year version) or obse_steam_loader.dll (only if you are using the Steam version of the game). So three files should be in your Oblivion folder. For the disk version of the game don't start it with your usual OblivionLauncher.exe. You will need to start the game using the obse_loader.exe file. You will probably want to edit your desktop shortcut and use that to start the game (starting the game from your Start button menu will start the game the old way ... leaving that alone gives you an easy way to get access to the old launcher menu when you want to activate a mod using the Data Files option on that loader menu). When you start the game using the obse_loader.exe (either by double clicking it or using your edited desktop icon) you will see two small black windows briefly. If you don't see them all is not right.