blackwater side stables has pulled a houdini

[bbe]

Hi! As the title suggests, the black waterside stables outside of Cheydinhal have dissapeared on my world map. If I try to fast travel to it, it tells me "you cannot go this way, turn back", if I try to access the area via the cheydinhal gate closest to it it says "gate to wilderness" and gives me the same error as the quick travel, and if I walk up to it from any area surrounding it I simply see a massive blank square where I can see through the ground around it and there is a large pool of water where the stables used to be. I'm not all that skilled with mods, but I do know how to install them / get them working correctly and don't often have any issues but this one's got me stumped.

Here is my load order

 

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Cobl Main.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

DLCHorseArmor.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

boethia custom race.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

TML_PortableArena.esp

SW01.esp

SWalk.esp

AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp

AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

CuteElf11.esp

CM Partners.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

DragonInvasion.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Telekinetic Mastery.esp

Smite of Order.esp

PythonHolyhg.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp

DBContinuedBeta 0.7.esp

Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp

Archery Rebalance.esp

CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners NPC NE.esp

Sonia.esp

Comp_Cecilia.esp

DACog-Rein.esp

SylvanArmor.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

tda_Armoury Beta v1_2.esp

ShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Light-Alt-helm.esp

Armor of Heaven's Fury-Gold-Heavy.esp

adelina.esp

1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp

alllll61-Druaga the Sword of URUK-Fatina.esp

FB_DC_Mega_Pack_OMOD_H.esp

Guardians of the Nine - Akatosh Chantry.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

SP1stPLegs.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

 

 

 

thank you to anyone who might know the answer to my problem!

[HeyYou]

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp Is the only thing I see right off hand that even effects anything in that neighborhood. Try disabling that one, and see if things show back up.

[Hickory]

You need to install and run BOSS and install Wrye Bash and create a Bashed Patch. Cobl Tweaks is a filter only plugin, and must be merged into the Bashed Patch and deactivated.

[bbe]

I thought UL was messing it up at first too but I've already tried disabling cheydinhall falls (and just did it again for good measure) and my doompool is still there. I've also noticed that if I jump into said pool I can swim into a world map version of cheydinhal (no npcs half the ground is missing etc)

 

You need to install and run BOSS and install Wrye Bash and create a Bashed Patch. Cobl Tweaks is a filter only plugin, and must be merged into the Bashed Patch and deactivated.

 

Ah, ok I'll try that right now.

Edited April 15, 2011 by bbe

[Hickory]

I thought UL was messing it up at first too but I've already tried disabling cheydinhall falls (and just did it again for good measure) and my doompool is still there. I've also noticed that if I jump into said pool I can swim into a world map version of cheydinhal (no npcs half the ground is missing etc)

 

You need to install and run BOSS and install Wrye Bash and create a Bashed Patch. Cobl Tweaks is a filter only plugin, and must be merged into the Bashed Patch and deactivated.

 

Ah, ok I'll try that right now.

 

Have you created any mods that require you to esmify plugins and forgot to re-espify them afterwards -- CM Parners, for instance?

[bbe]

I have in the past gone into the toolkit to make a couple NPC companions non-essential (with custom races as well) but I have uninstalled and reinstalled since then. What exactly does ESMifying a CM partners esp do to the cheydinhal stables though?

[Hickory]

I have in the past gone into the toolkit to make a couple NPC companions non-essential (with custom races as well) but I have uninstalled and reinstalled since then. What exactly does ESMifying a CM partners esp do to the cheydinhal stables though?

 

Nothing specifically. The reason I asked is that if you ESMify a plugin and then forget to re-ESPify it afterwards, you will get all manner of world errors. Take a look here.

[bbe]

well, that DOES look very similar but I'm going to try this BOSS/wrye combination first and if it persists I will have a look-see at my cm mods. I don't have too many right now thankfully

 

thanks for the suggestions

 

 

EDIT: using BOSS fixed it, although I had to find the google-codes version of the .txt cause apparently using the masterfileupdater.bat on w7 doesn't want to work thanks again !

Edited April 15, 2011 by bbe