Settlement power grid crash

[Zetsumi_Nihilus]

My problem basically boils down to, whenever I attempt to store or delete an object linked in any way to my settlement's power grid, or connect a new object to the power grid, the game crashes. This includes turrets, spotlights, the generator, power pylons, and wires. I've modified the power grid before this point near constantly, connecting, deleting, and moving parts of it without an issue. At first I encountered the problem after installing www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11090/? and assumed it was related to that mod, but having removed it from my load order and loaded a save before installing it, the settlement is still affected. I can move and reposition objects attached to the power grid, but I can't delete them, can't store them, can't connect new objects, and can't use any of the switched pylons that isolate my spotlights or turrets behind them (They were all set to ON, so I can't turn them off.) Attempting to do so triggers the game to freeze, before crashing with 'Fallout 4 has stopped responding'. This crash is consistent, it occurs every time I try to touch the settlement power grid, and ONLY when I touch the power grid in the aforementioned ways, and so far has been the only serious glitch I've had on this load order and save.

The settlement cell is affected by the cell reset bug, as I've used the scrap everything mod to remove a lot of debris and vegetation items in the settlement area. The settlement cell is also well and truly past the object limit, and takes significantly longer to load when fast traveling to it then other areas, but I haven't been experiencing any stutter or performance issues while in the cell.

After spending a fair amount of time messing with my load order and enabling/disabling plugins, I can't seem to fix it, and after spending a while searching for similar issues, I can't find anything like it.

 

Load Order

Fallout4.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
SettlementKeywords.esm
Snap'n Build.esm
Homemaker.esm
Robot Home Defence.esm
Arbitration - Resources.esm
CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm
DD_Maybe_this_f*#@ing_time_SettlementBdgt.esp
AlternateSettlements.esp
Business Settlements.esp
BusinessSettlements-SKPatch.esp
Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SK.esp
Homemaker - SK Integration Patch.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SK.esp
Snap'n Build - Modules.esp
OCDispenser.esp
OCDecorator.esp
Robot Home Defence - Settlement Keywords.esp
BusySettlers.esp
BusySettlersRug.esp
BuildYourOwnVault.esp
InteriorGenerators.esp
DDP_Interior_doorway1.esp
DDP_Bridge_mark1.esp
DD_I_Ran_Out_Of_Funny_Names.esp
DDP_Elevators_mark1.esp
Dont Throw Stones.esp
DD_fire_lights.esp
DD_Columnsandstuff_1_0.esp
DDP_Ramps_mark1.esp
DD_Michael_Faraday_Time_yo.esp
DD_why_am_i_doing_this.esp
DD_build_a_castle_01.esp
DD_Spiral_staircases.esp
DD_Spiral_staircases - Institute.esp
FunctionalDisplays.esp
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-Vanilla.esp
FunctionalDisplays-Drinks-Vanilla.esp
CBBE.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
Kat's New Hairstyles1.3.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
Z51_MDroid_XPLevelingLinearized.esp
VatsOverThere_IncreasedVATSRange_AimIncrease.esp
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
MoBettaScrap.esp
ExpandedScavengingStations.esp
DeadBodyCollision.esp
Ultimate_Crafting_Ranged_Weapons_and_Other.esp
Ultimate_Crafting_Melee_Weapons.esp
Craftable Armor Size.esp
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
TrueStormsFO4.esp
TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp
TrueStormsFO4-Performance-Fog.esp
LegendaryRarity10.esp
LegendaryAllDifficulties10x.esp
SRM.esp
SRM_Corpse6.esp
PA_Overmodded_Edition.esp
PowerArmorAutopilot.esp
Buildable_PAFrames.esp
UNnaked Power Armor.esp
ShadowedPaintJob.esp
IP4APA.esp
MMP4APA-blue.esp
MMP4APA.esp
RRP4APA.esp
unleveleditems.esp
CSEMod.esp
Looking Fabulous.esp
You Talk Too Much.esp
VaultGearDoor.esp
VaultGearDoor-SKPatch.esp
MOAR Turrets.esp
Scavvers of the Commonwealth.esp
Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp
Scrap Everything.esp
Northland Diggers.esp
Lower Damage Requirement For XP.esp
CraftableFloorPatches.esp
CraftableFloorPatches - Scrap Everything.esp
WindowBoards.esp
Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp
The Rebel.esp
Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
BS NS BFS Merged Patch.esp
Eli_Mufflers.esp
Talon PA.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics_NoRobotFootStepSounds.esp
CROSS_ExoFrame.esp
CROSS_Gear.esp
CROSS_Eyewear_CircularGlasses.esp
CROSS_Uni_Belt.esp
CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp
Metal Paint.esp
LegendaryModification.esp
LegendaryModification2LM.esp
PAOE_LegendaryModification2LM.esp
LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
MGSOutfit.esp
Coat Standalone.esp
DelyteOutfits.esp
AdvPortableTurretSet-Real.esp
AdvPortableTurretSet-Real-Extension.esp
BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp
EnclaveX02.esp
CTHColoredFriendliesWeaponDrawn-NSL.esp
Hermetic_PA_Water_Radiation.esp
Molerat_Disease_Immunity_PA_Hazmat.esp
Craftable Vault 81 Cure.esp
Mole Rat Disease Fix.esp

[JimmyRJump]

I've had a few issues which were solved when I swapped the ESP load order for OCDispenser.esp and OCDecorator.esp (putting decorator first) or even disabling both...

[scandalz143187]

I had this exact same problem. I found a solution that worked for me so I thought I would share it. Walk VERY slowly up to the area where normally it crashes around the electrical grid, if you walked slow enough it might not crash, then scrap a bunch of electrical grid related things. Re-do your electrical grid in a different way. I think my error was a loop that I made of water purifiers, so make sure there are no loops in your electrical grid.

Cheers :happy:

[TheGadget1945]

I have a slightly similar problem where electrical devices such as water purifiers appear to consume twice as much power as they did before I installed SKE. Even when I have power well in excess of the requirements the power is still shown in red. The only way to correct it seems to be to install a Fusion Generator and hook everything up to that, which at least has the plus that I get rid of all those noisy generators - I never realised before how noisy my settlements were !

[draconisflamestrike]

Bumping this thread as I have developed this issue, and its late in my save game progress.. with lots and LOTS of time invested..

 

It appears I have the same issue with Red Rocket. I have with the help of the "Settlement Transfer".. removed everything built, using their nuke feature, which supposedly gets rid of everything built.

 

I have even gone as far as trying to remove even the workshop bench, and anything that is visible that would interact with power.. and still nothing

 

Scrapall command results in instant crash, so that didn't help either... I am of the same mind that its something corrupt in the save game file itself.

 

If I load a much much older save game near my start, it works fine..

 

If only I can find a way to edit save game files... there used to be an older tool that allowed you to basically cut and paste cell data from one save game to another, which could fix this issue.. sadly it doesn't work as its out of date.. and never been updated in so very long.

[APGirl]

Hi, I have run into the same issue in my game, I use sim settlements and everything apperd to be working fine until on day I l it suddenly crashesd me to desktop while I was working on the power grid.

 

So I reinstalled all the mods that temper with the settlment system, wiped all my settlments and it worked again after that.

 

I playied for a while without issues and even did stuff on the power grid until it suddenly broke again and now even completly unistalling everymod does not fix it.

I'm starting to get the feeling that there's a problem with the current game version, or maybe I'm missing something.

 

The things that are more likely to crash me to desktop are metal powerpoles and things that are already connected to the grid.

I can place new poles no problem, even connect poles I recently build. But when I try to attach them to any thing else already exsisting it crashes me to desktop again.

 

I've put about 2 days into the savegame so far and for me that's alot, don't have the chance to play that often.

So if anyone finds out what causes this issue please share it, I'd sure as hell be greatful if I could build out my settlments again.

 

Thanks for your attantion.

[Syclone903]

If anyone sees this later down the line and still has this problem, read this:

 

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/scrap-crash-reason-fix-and-preventative-measures.7696/

[StormWolf01]

An interesting read Syclone. Thanks very much for posting that article.

I use mostly wireless power grids, so I've never encountered this problem before. The one I have, is remembering to store electrical pieces, rather than scrapping them, LOL