Bauldric Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) So, as my title suggests. I am getting random hardspots that seem to persist in my world no matter what. I can not figure out what is causing them because every time I try to trouble shoot they remain no matter what. It doesn't matter if I edit the world space or not and I am no longer using console commands (unless mods are behind the scenes). It seems to happen only in editable spaces and mainly in sanctuary. I will also post a load order but I am not sure what to do. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to trouble shoot this beyond what I have been doing of besides pulling out mods one by one? 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 Damage Threshold.esm 3 3 SpringCleaning.esm 4 4 Homemaker.esm 5 5 SettlementKeywords.esm 6 6 Robot Home Defence.esm 7 7 Snap'n Build.esm 8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm 9 9 Simple Bug Fixes.esp 10 a OWR.esp 11 b BrighterSettlementLights_LessHarsh.esp 12 c Balanced Fusion Core Drain.esp 13 d DeadBodyCollision.esp 14 e Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp 15 f LongerPowerLines3x.esp 16 10 Move (Get Out the Way).esp 17 11 QuickEnterFromStand.esp 18 12 QuickExitToStand.esp 19 13 dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp 20 14 dD-Reduced Explosion Force.esp 21 15 ShellRain.esp 22 16 Simple Intersection.esp 23 17 IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp 24 18 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp 25 19 LongerAreaRespawn.esp 26 1a Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp 27 1b MoreBipodAndSniperBarrel.esp 28 1c MMP4APA-blue.esp 29 1d MMP4APA.esp 30 1e Tougher Vertibirds.esp 31 1f Pos_GuardPositions.esp 32 20 Pos_ShopPositons.esp 33 21 DD_AIO_I_Hate_You_All.esp 34 22 DD_I_Ran_Out_Of_Funny_Names.esp 35 23 ValdacilsItemSorting-Misc.esp 36 24 BetterGenerators.esp 37 25 Weaponry Overhaul.esp 38 26 DD_Wasteland_Children_done_right.esp 39 27 LegendaryModification.esp 40 28 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp 41 29 LegendaryModificationCSA.esp 42 2a LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp 43 2b NX Pro - Farm Core.esp 44 2c ValdacilsItemSorting-Mods.esp 45 2d CutWeaponModsRestored.esp 46 2e NX Pro - Harvest Overhaul.esp 47 2f NX Pro - Farm Core - Homemaker.esp 48 30 ValdacilsItemSorting-AidReducedWeight.esp 49 31 NX Pro - Farm Core - Valdacil's Item Sorting.esp 50 32 Homemaker - SK Integration Patch.esp 51 33 Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SK.esp 52 34 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp 53 35 DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp 54 36 DV-Armored Pilots.esp 55 37 Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp 56 38 OCDispenser.esp 57 39 OCDecorator - No Experience.esp 58 3a OCDecorator.esp 59 3b Cuts and Blunts 3.0.esp 60 3c SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp 61 3d Water Sources Expanded.esp 62 3e DD_flag_poles.esp 63 3f BetterNightVision.esp 64 40 AltNightVision.esp 65 41 AltNightPerson.esp 66 42 AltReconVision.esp 67 43 AutoDoors.esp 68 44 chem redux.esp 69 45 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp 70 46 Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp 71 47 Cozy Beds.esp 72 48 Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp 73 49 Craftable Armor Size.esp 74 4a Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp 75 4b Crafting Workbench.esp 76 4c Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp 77 4d Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp 78 4e Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp 79 4f Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp 80 50 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp 81 51 Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp 82 52 DD_TRUMP_2016_MAKE_MODDING_GREAT_AGAIN.esp 83 53 DisableVanillaFastTravel.esp 84 54 BetterShackBridges.esp 85 55 Lasers Have No Recoil.esp 86 56 LasersNoRecoil - Beam Splitters Patch.esp 87 57 Northland Diggers.esp 88 58 PersonalPackBrahmin.esp 89 59 ReasonableWorkbenchPerks.esp 90 5a Robot Home Defence - Settlement Keywords.esp 91 5b SettlerRenaming.esp 92 5c BetterJunkFences.esp 93 5d Snap'n Build - Bunker.esp 94 5e Snap'n Build - Capsule.esp 95 5f Snap'n Build - Greenhouse.esp 96 60 Snap'n Build - Industrial.esp 97 61 Snap'n Build - Patches.esp 98 62 Snap'n Build - Real Estate.esp 99 63 The Rebel.esp100 64 You Talk Too Much.esp101 65 Muzzle Flash.esp102 66 BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp103 67 Cozy Beds - My Bed.esp104 68 PortableSleepingBag.esp105 69 SpotlightFix-200.esp106 6a combat_PA.esp107 6b tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp108 6c combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR - VIS AbS.esp109 6d FunctionalDisplays.esp110 6e VIS-PatchFunctionalDisplays-Misc+Junk+DEF_INV.esp111 6f ValdacilsItemSorting-JunkBetter+DEF_INV.esp112 70 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp113 71 MoBettaScrap.esp114 72 DD_Ernest_Rutherford_Perk_Overhaul.esp115 73 Simple Bug Fixes - Lone Wanderer.esp116 74 More Power Armour Mods.esp117 75 Nuclear Perks RHD Compatibility.esp118 76 Business Settlements.esp119 77 BusinessSettlements-SKPatch.esp120 78 CBBE.esp121 79 DD_CBBE_SLooty_Castle_Innie_Vajayjay_4k_Fix.esp122 7a BasementLiving.esp123 7b ImmersiveVendors.esp124 7c VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp125 7d VisibleCompanionAffinity_AffinityCheck.esp126 7e ArtilleryFlare.esp127 7f ArtilleryInstantdbl.esp128 80 Armorsmith Extended.esp129 81 Paintable Helmets.esp130 82 Armorsmith Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp131 83 Combat_Helmet_Illumination 1.2.esp132 84 Paintable Helmets - AE Patch.esp133 85 FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-CWMR.esp FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-BS-CWMR.esp134 86 FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-WO.esp135 87 FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-WO-CWMR.esp FunctionalDisplays-Weapons-BS-WO-CWMR.esp136 88 ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp137 89 CWMR-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp138 8a CWMR-Patch-Weaponry Overhaul.esp139 8b SkjAlert_DLC01.esp140 8c SkjAlert_RS-.esp141 8d PA_Materials_Paints.esp142 8e MPAM PAMP Patch.esp143 8f ValdacilsItemSorting-DLCAutomatron.esp144 90 PA_Materials_Paints_Automatron.esp145 91 Armorsmith Automatron.esp146 92 ValdacilsItemSorting-Ammo.esp147 93 ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp148 94 ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByType.esp149 95 ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortTop.esp150 96 ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp151 97 ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp152 98 VIS-PatchChemRedux.esp153 99 VIS-PatchChemReduxWeightless.esp154 9a VIS-PatchSimpleBugFixes-Armor.esp155 9b Grasslands - Healthy.esp156 9c Grasslands - Unhealthy.esp157 9d DD_Perk_Reset_WIZURD_HAIRRYY.esp158 9e BetterSettlers.esp159 9f BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp160 a0 BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp161 a1 DarkerNights.esp162 a2 FogOut.esp163 a3 EnclaveX02.esp164 a4 ImmersiveFastTravel.esp165 a5 IFT_Worker.esp166 a6 DarkerNightsDetection.esp167 a7 DarkerNights-FogOut.esp168 a8 TrueStormsFO4.esp169 a9 DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp170 aa Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp171 ab DarkerNights-Radiant.esp172 ac TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp173 ad TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp174 ae TrueStormsFO4-NoConstantRads.esp175 af WET Clearer.esp176 b0 Better Explosives - Normal.esp177 b1 Better Explosives - Enhanced Grenades.esp178 b2 Better Explosives - Perks redone - No Trajectory.esp179 b3 Better Explosives - Grenade Frequency 30.esp180 b4 Armored General by Hothtrooper44.esp181 b5 Armorsmith Hothtrooper44 Extended.esp182 b6 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp183 b7 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp184 b8 autoweapons.esp185 b9 Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp186 ba Arbitration - Farther Grenade Detection.esp187 bb Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp188 bc Arbitration - Compass Radar Reduction.esp189 bd Arbitration - Molotov.esp190 be Arbitration - No Condition Regeneration.esp191 bf SurvivalNormalEnemyDamage.esp192 c0 SurvivalNormalPCDamage.esp193 c1 3dscopes-framework.esp194 c2 3dscopes-replacer.esp195 c3 3dscopes-replacer-ATS-CWMRPatch.esp196 c4 VIS-PatchFunctionalDisplays-Aid.esp197 c5 FunctionalDisplays-Drinks-Vanilla.esp Edited March 27, 2016 by Bauldric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac2636 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 You mean, you seem to walk into an invisible object that blocks your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauldric Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Not only that but it stops everything else. For all intensive purposes it is just an invisible metal object that spawns in random spots. It's always like the size of a cube going on forever into the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac2636 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 This happens to me from time to time (haven't been able to pinpoint the cause), but it does usually go away after the cell resets. Usually after a fast travel or after spending a while away from Sanctuary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonGrin Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It could be a tree? There was an invisible tree in Sanctuary before that I could scrap, it seems to have been fixed though. Good luck,Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac2636 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It could be a tree? There was an invisible tree in Sanctuary before that I could scrap, it seems to have been fixed though. Good luck,GeoffPossible but I don't think so, because it happens inside a building that is built on top of one of the collapsed house's foundations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonGrin Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Do you happen to use mesh replacers? The only other time I've encountered this is with repaired sanctuary bridge. there is a corner (the angled stone corner that has a collision going straight instead of following the angle. Though I can jump over it. Good luck,Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac2636 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 For me its actually pretty random and usually small. I've never noticed the Repaired Sanctuary Bridge issue. I've only ever noticed inside a custom built building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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