Bisaflor Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 i was just thinking that in Survival the Generators should need Fuel.i mean ... an endless resource in Survival? The Fusion Generators should need Fusion Cores and after a period of time they should be empty and the connectet things shut down.The other ones should need flamer fuel or oil from junk what do u think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djangoku Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hmm... its an interesting idea and would be more realistic in deed. But on the other hand, on surivival its really hard to get mats to your settlements in large amounts, and oil is pretty rare anyways. Oil or fuel drops would need to be increased, so you can have some generators für defence.I only played up to level 30 until now, but i guess i will need a lot of laser turrets later for raids, cause machinegun turrets are barely able to kill some freaking dogs or bloatflies. Guess it would be a matter of balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisaflor Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 im 59 nowsettlemet attacks are still rarei have over 84 Fusion cores now (i dont Play with power armor)dont know how many oil or flamer fuel i have i think if an turret or so would use 1 energy it should drain 1 amount of fuel in an priod of time (maybe a week?) so if u have energy costs from ... lets say 53 u would need 53 oil in a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanity Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) NO- the use of combustion engine power supplies is COMPLETELY wrong for the context of Fallout. After all, the long abandoned vehicles EXPLODE when shot because their nuclear engines become unstable- this is an imagined hyper-atomic age when EVERYTHING pretty much was powered by nuclear energy. For crude electricity generation, one should be able to salvage a nuclear core from just about any pre-war device. This shouldn't be the neat, compact 'safe' type of core that powers the armour- just a self-contained nuclear engine- probably in the form of a shielded cube. Power should NOT be a precious commodity for communities- according to the lore that would be as dumb as having FIRE as a 'precious' commodity. Indeed the world should experience an absolute surplus of nuclear generated electricity- a unique aspect of the post apocalypse world under Fallout concepts. Edited April 14, 2016 by zanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac2636 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 NO- the use of combustion engine power supplies is COMPLETELY wrong for the context of Fallout. After all, the long abandoned vehicles EXPLODE when shot because their nuclear engines become unstable- this is an imagined hyper-atomic age when EVERYTHING pretty much was powered by nuclear energy. For crude electricity generation, one should be able to salvage a nuclear core from just about any pre-war device. This shouldn't be the neat, compact 'safe' type of core that powers the armour- just a self-contained nuclear engine- probably in the form of a shielded cube. Power should NOT be a precious commodity for communities- according to the lore that would be as dumb as having FIRE as a 'precious' commodity. Indeed the world should experience an absolute surplus of nuclear generated electricity- a unique aspect of the post apocalypse world under Fallout concepts.According to lore this is true. The problem is Beth decided to put what appears to be ICEs in the game. They should actually be removed IMO and replaced with various nuclear powered units. Though I do like the idea of each generator needing a fusion core, but that core should be able to power a basic settlement the size of Sanctuary for months before needing replacement, just to keep it similar to PA fusion core usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minngarm Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Could make them need water easily, which would make more sense, need to cool the fusion generator... As for the others, they are clearly combustion engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalmasterpiece Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 NO- the use of combustion engine power supplies is COMPLETELY wrong for the context of Fallout. After all, the long abandoned vehicles EXPLODE when shot because their nuclear engines become unstable- this is an imagined hyper-atomic age when EVERYTHING pretty much was powered by nuclear energy. For crude electricity generation, one should be able to salvage a nuclear core from just about any pre-war device. This shouldn't be the neat, compact 'safe' type of core that powers the armour- just a self-contained nuclear engine- probably in the form of a shielded cube. Power should NOT be a precious commodity for communities- according to the lore that would be as dumb as having FIRE as a 'precious' commodity. Indeed the world should experience an absolute surplus of nuclear generated electricity- a unique aspect of the post apocalypse world under Fallout concepts. Except that there are petroleum canisters all over the game, oil canisters, blow torches which are fed by oil, tire tracks in the mud, tires -everywhere- ... We can only assume that in this version of the Fallout universe some implements still use combustible fuel sources. The claim that combustion engines do not exist in the Fallout universe is not supported by the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minngarm Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 NO- the use of combustion engine power supplies is COMPLETELY wrong for the context of Fallout. After all, the long abandoned vehicles EXPLODE when shot because their nuclear engines become unstable- this is an imagined hyper-atomic age when EVERYTHING pretty much was powered by nuclear energy. For crude electricity generation, one should be able to salvage a nuclear core from just about any pre-war device. This shouldn't be the neat, compact 'safe' type of core that powers the armour- just a self-contained nuclear engine- probably in the form of a shielded cube. Power should NOT be a precious commodity for communities- according to the lore that would be as dumb as having FIRE as a 'precious' commodity. Indeed the world should experience an absolute surplus of nuclear generated electricity- a unique aspect of the post apocalypse world under Fallout concepts. Except that there are petroleum canisters all over the game, oil canisters, blow torches which are fed by oil, tire tracks in the mud, tires -everywhere- ... We can only assume that in this version of the Fallout universe some implements still use combustible fuel sources. The claim that combustion engines do not exist in the Fallout universe is not supported by the game. Combustion engines will never not be a thing. And blow torches operate on a gas, not gasoline. Either way yea the combustion generators should require fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalmasterpiece Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I would tend to agree but why are blow torches scrappable for oil in game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minngarm Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I would tend to agree but why are blow torches scrappable for oil in game? Misconception by the devs. Blow torches are fairly simple devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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